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1. 12:25 AM - Re: instrument panels (Gary L Vogt)
2. 03:22 AM - Re: instrument panels (jetinc@comcast.net)
3. 06:26 AM - instrument panels (923TE)
4. 06:30 AM - instrument panels (923TE)
5. 06:56 AM - Exhaust Fairing (923TE)
6. 07:45 AM - Re: instrument panels (Doug Ilg)
7. 11:43 AM - Re: instrument panels (Gary Vogt)
8. 11:44 AM - Re: instrument panels (Gary Vogt)
9. 11:46 AM - Re: Exhaust Fairing (Gary Vogt)
10. 12:23 PM - Re: instrument panels (jetinc@comcast.net)
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| Subject: | Re: instrument panels |
An F-head by any chance? And I don't mean flat head.
Gary
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 24, 2012, at 9:26 PM, jetinc@comcast.net wrote:
> Cool! We'll talk about it in the near future. Currently working on putti
ng an engine together for it. Lovin' it!
>
> From: "Gary Vogt" <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>
> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:44:38 PM
> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: instrument panels
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> I'd love to design a panel for a Jeep.
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> From: "jetinc@comcast.net" <jetinc@comcast.net>
> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 3:36 PM
> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: instrument panels
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> Wow! I'm glad I downgraded to Jeeps. I can only guess how expensive all t
hat av gear must have cost. Then again, both are very sweet panels. Gary, w
ant to help me design a new panel for my 1972 CJ-5?
>
> Eddie
> Former Owner: N3752W
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> From: "Gary Vogt" <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>
> To: "Teamgrumman List" <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:38:10 PM
> Subject: TeamGrumman-List: instrument panels
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| Subject: | Re: instrument panels |
Unfortunately, no, not this one. 1972 was the first year Jeep extended the
front clip to really accomodate a bigger engine. Mine currently has an AMC
304 that I want to rebuild. After talking with several people, including a
very reputable AMC machinist, everyone is pushing me toward doing a chevy 3
50 conversion. Still not sure which way to go. The AMC is a very cool engin
e, but parts are difficult to come by and are usually substantially more ex
pensive than Chevy or Ford stuff. Sounds kind of like airplane stuff, huh?
Beech vs. =10Cessna vs. Grumman?
If I don't keep the engine a stocker then I'm definitely not keeping the ha
lf assembled but legal and mostly working panel. I want a real panel in thi
s thing. Just gotta figure out what to put it in. Speedo, Tach, Water, Oil
Temp, Oil Pressure, Volts, various switches, including a manual over-ride f
or the electric fan, etc. Maybe an altimeter and a DG and compass too. Stil
l learning about it as I go.
Eddie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary L Vogt" <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 12:24:47 AM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: instrument panels
An F-head by any chance? And I don't mean flat head.
Gary Sent from my iPad
On Feb 24, 2012, at 9:26 PM, jetinc@comcast.net wrote:
Cool! We'll talk about it in the near future. Currently working on putting
an engine together for it. Lovin' it!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Vogt" < teamgrumman@yahoo.com >
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:44:38 PM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: instrument panels
I'd love to design a panel for a Jeep.
From: " jetinc@comcast.net " < jetinc@comcast.net >
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: instrument panels
Wow! I'm glad I downgraded to Jeeps. I can only guess how expensive all tha
t av gear must have cost. Then again, both are very sweet panels. Gary, wan
t to help me design a new panel for my 1972 CJ-5?
Eddie
Former Owner: N3752W
From: "Gary Vogt" < teamgrumman@yahoo.com >
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:38:10 PM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: instrument panels
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| Subject: | instrument panels |
Check out the panel in this Tiger
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Gary,
What's with the flow visualization on the exhaust fairing in this photo?
It looks like the airflow is vertical?
Ned
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| Subject: | Re: instrument panels |
Eddie,=0A=0AI'm no expert, but it seems to me that putting a DG in an off-r
oad vehicle is asking for trouble. -At least if it's a standard mechanica
l gyro sort of DG. -As all aircraft owners know, those things are expensi
ve, to begin with. -Next, it would probably precess pretty badly, from th
e start, with all the accelerations (starts, stops, turns, bumps) going on.
-On top of all that, I'd bet that all the bouncing around would also wea
r out the bearings in very short order.=0A=0AMaybe a cheap MEMS acceleromet
er based gyro would serve well. -Hell, I bet an iPad or iPhone would do a
pretty decent job.=0A-=0ADoug Ilg=0AGrumman Tiger N74818, College Park
-Airport (KCGS), Maryland=0AChallenger II LSS LW (N641LG-reserved)--
kit underway at Laurel Suburban (W18)=0A=0A-=0A=0A=0A=0A>________________
________________=0A> From: "jetinc@comcast.net" <jetinc@comcast.net>=0A>=0A
>If I don't keep the engine a stocker then I'm definitely not keeping the h
alf assembled but legal and mostly working panel. -I want a real panel in
this thing. -Just gotta figure out what to put it in. -Speedo, Tach, W
ater, Oil Temp, Oil Pressure, Volts, various switches, including a manual o
ver-ride for the electric fan, etc. -Maybe an altimeter and a DG and comp
ass too. -Still learning about it as I go.-=0A>=0A>
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| Subject: | Re: instrument panels |
Come up to Auburn. -There is a guy next to me that dirt track races. -H
e has a 350 jeep. -So does his buddy. -He can give some tips.=0A=0A=0A_
_______________________________=0A From: "jetinc@comcast.net" <jetinc@comca
st.net>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Saturday, February 25
, 2012 3:21 AM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: instrument panels=0A =0A=0A
Unfortunately, no, not this one. -1972 was the first year Jeep extended t
he front clip to really accomodate a bigger engine. -Mine currently has a
n AMC 304 that I want to rebuild. -After talking with several people, inc
luding a very reputable AMC machinist, everyone is pushing me toward doing
a chevy 350 conversion. -Still not sure which way to go. -The AMC is a
very cool engine, but parts are difficult to come by and are usually substa
ntially more expensive than Chevy or Ford stuff. - Sounds kind of like ai
rplane stuff, huh? -Beech vs. Cessna vs. Grumman?=0A=0AIf I don't keep th
e engine a stocker then I'm definitely not keeping the half assembled but l
egal and mostly working panel. -I want a real panel in this thing. -Jus
t gotta figure out what to put it in. -Speedo, Tach, Water, Oil Temp, Oil
Pressure, Volts, various switches, including a manual over-ride for the el
ectric fan, etc. -Maybe an altimeter and a DG and compass too. -Still l
earning about it as I go.-=0A=0AEddie=0A=0A______________________________
__=0AFrom: "Gary L Vogt" <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@mat
ronics.com=0ASent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 12:24:47 AM=0ASubject: Re: T
eamGrumman-List: instrument panels=0A=0A=0AAn F-head by any chance? -And
I don't mean flat head.-=0A=0A=0AGarySent from my iPad=0A=0AOn Feb 24, 20
12, at 9:26 PM, jetinc@comcast.net wrote:=0A=0A=0ACool! -We'll talk about
it in the near future. -Currently working on putting an engine together
for it. -Lovin' it!=0A>=0A>>________________________________=0A>From: "Ga
ry Vogt" <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>=0A>To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com=0A>S
ent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:44:38 PM=0A>Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List:
instrument panels=0A>=0A>=0A>I'd love to design a panel for a Jeep.=0A>=0A
>=0A>=0A>________________________________=0A> From: "jetinc@comcast.net" <j
etinc@comcast.net>=0A>To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com =0A>Sent: Friday,
February 24, 2012 3:36 PM=0A>Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: instrument pane
ls=0A> =0A>=0A>Wow! -I'm glad I downgraded to Jeeps. -I can only guess
how expensive all that av gear must have cost. -Then again, both are very
sweet panels. -Gary, want to help me design a new panel for my 1972 CJ-5
?=0A>=0A>=0A>Eddie=0A>Former Owner: N3752W=0A>=0A>>________________________
________=0A>From: "Gary Vogt" <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>=0A>To: "Teamgrumman L
ist" <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com>=0A>Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12
:38:10 PM=0A>Subject: TeamGrumman-List: instrument panels=0A>=0A>=0A>A cont
rast in concept.=0A>_blank" href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Team
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| Subject: | Re: instrument panels |
wish I had his money and he had a feather. -We'd both be tickled.=0A=0A
=0A________________________________=0A From: 923TE <923te@att.net>=0ATo: "t
eamgrumman-list@matronics.com" <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com> =0ASent: Sa
turday, February 25, 2012 6:22 AM=0ASubject: TeamGrumman-List: instrument p
anels=0A =0ACheck out the panel in this Tiger
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| Subject: | Re: Exhaust Fairing |
I know. -Weird isn' it.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From:
923TE <923te@att.net>=0ATo: "teamgrumman-list@matronics.com" <teamgrumman-
list@matronics.com> =0ASent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:53 AM=0ASubject:
TeamGrumman-List: Exhaust Fairing=0A =0AGary,=0AWhat's with the flow visua
lization on the exhaust fairing in this photo?=0AIt looks like the airflow
is vertical?=0ANed
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| Subject: | Re: instrument panels |
Thanks. I was mostly kidding about that stuff. I am a pilot and a former grumman
owner and was kidding Gary a bit.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Ilg" <doug.ilg@verizon.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 7:42:55 AM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: instrument panels
Eddie,
I'm no expert, but it seems to me that putting a DG in an off-road vehicle is asking
for trouble. At least if it's a standard mechanical gyro sort of DG. As
all aircraft owners know, those things are expensive, to begin with. Next, it
would probably precess pretty badly, from the start, with all the accelerations
(starts, stops, turns, bumps) going on. On top of all that, I'd bet that all
the bouncing around would also wear out the bearings in very short order.
Maybe a cheap MEMS accelerometer based gyro would serve well. Hell, I bet an iPad
or iPhone would do a pretty decent job.
Doug Ilg
Grumman Tiger N74818, College Park Airport (KCGS), Maryland
Challenger II LSS LW (N641LG reserved) - kit underway at Laurel Suburban (W18)
From: "jetinc@comcast.net" <jetinc@comcast.net>
If I don't keep the engine a stocker then I'm definitely not keeping the half assembled
but legal and mostly working panel. I want a real panel in this thing.
Just gotta figure out what to put it in. Speedo, Tach, Water, Oil Temp, Oil
Pressure, Volts, various switches, including a manual over-ride for the electric
fan, etc. Maybe an altimeter and a DG and compass too. Still learning about
it as I go.
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