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1. 12:27 AM - Eyebrow lighting (SANDY)
2. 06:51 AM - Re: Control wheel refurb (jwellum@AOL.COM)
3. 07:37 AM - Shuttle fly-by (Doug Ilg)
4. 07:57 AM - Re: Shuttle fly-by (923TE)
5. 08:34 AM - Re: Shuttle fly-by (Brian D. Smith)
6. 09:37 AM - Re: Garmin Pilot app (Gary Vogt)
7. 09:43 AM - Re: Control wheel refurb (Gary Vogt)
8. 09:51 AM - Re: Shuttle fly-by (Gary Vogt)
9. 09:51 AM - Re: Shuttle fly-by (Gary Vogt)
10. 10:53 AM - Re: Shuttle fly-by (923te)
11. 03:28 PM - Re: Control wheel refurb (Michael W. Meyer)
12. 03:52 PM - Re: Control wheel refurb (mbcrisp)
13. 07:10 PM - Re: Control wheel refurb (Gary Vogt)
14. 07:17 PM - Re: Shuttle fly-by (Gary Vogt)
15. 07:31 PM - Re: Re: Control wheel refurb (Gary Vogt)
16. 07:42 PM - Backfire update. (Gary Vogt)
17. 09:08 PM - Re: Backfire update. (Dean White)
18. 11:15 PM - Re: Backfire update. (Gary L Vogt)
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| Subject: | Eyebrow lighting |
There was a recent discussion on the GG on cockpit lighting. Here is my res
ponse
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I'll chime in here also.
Several yrs ago while attending an AOPA Summit in Tampa, one of the seminar
s was on cockpit lighting and visual acuity. Since many pilots have some so
rt of visual issues at one time or another in their lifetime, I wanted to l
earn more as my eyes age. The instructor was a pilot/eye physician. We went
thru different color based scenarios in a darkened room. The end result, f
rom what I remember, is that most of the pilots in the room choose the gree
n lighting...followed by the blue. Red was the least color chosen, and I do
nt recall why the doc didnt recommend it, only as a last resort.
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So if I was to choose the eyebrow lighting, it would be green.
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That would be a great seminar topic at AYA OSH if the doc who presented at
AOPA can be found.
-Sandy
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| Subject: | Re: Control wheel refurb |
I powder coated mine a charcoal gray that has a greenish tint that matches
the interior of our 79 Tiger. The original coating came off easy and I was
surprised by how rough the control wheel castings were under the original
coating. I smoothed them out and applied more powder than usual to help
fill in the imperfections. They turned out nice but some of the pits in the
original casting can be seen if you look close.
In a message dated 4/16/2012 6:40:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
mbcrisp87@gmail.com writes:
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "mbcrisp" <mbcrisp87@gmail.com>
Does anyone have any suggestions on where to get control wheels
refurbished? My control wheels are starting to peel and look pretty bad. I have
seen
several options such as leather covers but wondered if anyone has found a
solution that really looks good. Also, has anyone ever replaced the lower
plastic panel where the the rocker switches and throttle are located? How
labor intensive is it to replace? Mine is beginning to look really bad and has
several cracks.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=371000#371000
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I just got down from the roof of the building I work in.- We =0Awatched t
he Space Shuttle Discovery do its tour of DC atop its 747 =0Acarrier.- It
made 2 passes very close to our building (we are under the =0Aflight path
for National Airport) with a T-38 in trail.- I'd attach a =0Apicture, but
we aren't allowed to have cameras, here.=0A=0AVery cool.- And a bit sad.
=0AThought all you aviation junkies might be interested.=0A-=0ADoug Ilg
=0AGrumman Tiger N74818, College Park-Airport (KCGS), Maryland=0AChalleng
er II LSS LW (N641LG-reserved)-- kit underway at Laurel Suburban (W18)
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| Subject: | Re: Shuttle fly-by |
Doug,
It's on Fox Business News live right now.
Yes very sad to see the whole program retired
Ned
On Apr 17, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Doug Ilg <doug.ilg@verizon.net> wrote:
> I just got down from the roof of the building I work in. We watched the S
pace Shuttle Discovery do its tour of DC atop its 747 carrier. It made 2 pa
sses very close to our building (we are under the flight path for National A
irport) with a T-38 in trail. I'd attach a picture, but we aren't allowed t
o have cameras, here.
>
> Very cool. And a bit sad.
>
> Thought all you aviation junkies might be interested.
>
> Doug Ilg
> Grumman Tiger N74818, College Park Airport (KCGS), Maryland
> Challenger II LSS LW (N641LG reserved) - kit underway at Laurel Suburban (
W18)
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Shuttle fly-by |
Does this list take attachments? I'll try=85.
On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:57 AM, 923TE wrote:
> Doug,
> It's on Fox Business News live right now.
> Yes very sad to see the whole program retired
> Ned
>
>
>
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Doug Ilg <doug.ilg@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> I just got down from the roof of the building I work in. We watched
the Space Shuttle Discovery do its tour of DC atop its 747 carrier. It
made 2 passes very close to our building (we are under the flight path
for National Airport) with a T-38 in trail. I'd attach a picture, but
we aren't allowed to have cameras, here.
>>
>> Very cool. And a bit sad.
>>
>> Thought all you aviation junkies might be interested.
>>
>> Doug Ilg
>> Grumman Tiger N74818, College Park Airport (KCGS), Maryland
>> Challenger II LSS LW (N641LG reserved) - kit underway at Laurel
Suburban (W18)
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin Pilot app |
My renewal for ForeFlight is coming up. -I think I'll stick with ForeFlig
ht.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Scott Boyce <tscott16
5@centurylink.net>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Monday, Ap
ril 16, 2012 6:50 PM=0ASubject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Garmin Pilot app=0A
=0A=0A30-day free trial then $99/year I think. Google it or go to Garmin we
bsite.=0A-=0AFrom:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:own
er-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt=0ASent: Su
nday, April 15, 2012 10:02 AM=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com=0ASubjec
t: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Garmin Pilot app=0A-=0Ahow much?=0A-=0A=0A____
____________________________=0A=0AFrom:Scott Boyce <tscott165@centurylink.n
et>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 6:
21 AM=0ASubject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Garmin Pilot app=0A=0A=0AReleased by
Garmin at SNF. IPad navigation app with sectionals, enroute charts, gps ge
oreferenced. Google Garmin pilot app=0A-=0AFrom:owner-teamgrumman-list-se
rver@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On
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man-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Garmin Pilot app=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Control wheel refurb |
Here is Bill Kelly's plane.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A Fro
m: Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>=0ATo: "teamgrumman-list@matronics.co
m" <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com> =0ASent: Monday, April 16, 2012 11:44 P
M=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Control wheel refurb=0A =0A--> TeamGrumm
an-List message posted by: Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>=0A=0AI have
"refurbished" a lot of yokes. In the process, I drill them for built in PTT
. They look very professional. AND . . .- No visible wires.- It's time
consuming and expensive. Figure about $320 delivered. =0A=0AI strip them, s
and blast them, have them chem-film plated, drilled, powder coated, and wir
ed with PTT buttons and shielded 2-wire twisted pair. =0A=0AI've powder coa
ted with gloss black, satin black, black wrinkle, black and gold hammertone
, black and silver hammertone, and dark gray wrinkle. I've also had the yok
e shaft powder coated with satin black. The black yoke shaft looks really c
ool with the powder coated yokes. =0A=0AGary=0ASent from my iPad=0A=0AOn Ap
r 16, 2012, at 4:39 PM, "mbcrisp" <mbcrisp87@gmail.com> wrote:=0A=0A> --> T
eamGrumman-List message posted by: "mbcrisp" <mbcrisp87@gmail.com>=0A> =0A>
Does anyone have any suggestions on where to get control wheels refurbishe
d? My control wheels are starting to peel and look pretty bad. I have seen
several options such as leather covers but wondered if anyone has found a s
olution that really looks good. Also, has anyone ever replaced the lower pl
astic panel where the the rocker switches and throttle are located? How lab
or intensive is it to replace? Mine is beginning to look really bad and has
several cracks.=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Read this topic online here:=0A>
=0A> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=371000#371000=0A> =0A>
=- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle
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| Subject: | Re: Shuttle fly-by |
I worked at the Air Force Rocket Propulsion Laboratory from 1982 to 1993.
-I saw a lot of shuttle landings and passes. -I also got to watch one o
f the engines being tested. -Yes, it is sad to see that program ending.
=0A=0AOne of my favorite memories is watching an SR-71 doing a high speed f
ly-by about 50 feet off the ground just before they were retired. -Full a
fter burner climbout. -At the time, I was working Fight Test on main base
Edwards. -I was on the flightline for one of my F-16 programs when the S
R-71 went by. -=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Doug Il
g <doug.ilg@verizon.net>=0ATo: "teamgrumman-list@matronics.com" <teamgrumma
n-list@matronics.com> =0ASent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 7:36 AM=0ASubject: T
eamGrumman-List: Shuttle fly-by=0A =0A=0AI just got down from the roof of t
he building I work in.- We =0Awatched the Space Shuttle Discovery do its
tour of DC atop its 747 =0Acarrier.- It made 2 passes very close to our b
uilding (we are under the =0Aflight path for National Airport) with a T-38
in trail.- I'd attach a =0Apicture, but we aren't allowed to have cameras
, here.=0A=0AVery cool.- And a bit sad.=0AThought all you aviation junkie
s might be interested.=0A-=0ADoug Ilg=0AGrumman Tiger N74818, College Par
k-Airport (KCGS), Maryland=0AChallenger II LSS LW (N641LG-reserved)--
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| Subject: | Re: Shuttle fly-by |
Great pic=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Brian D. Smith
<bdsmith@earthlink.net>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Tuesd
ay, April 17, 2012 8:33 AM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Shuttle fly-by
=0A =0A=0ADoes this list take attachments? =C2-I'll try.=0A=0A
=0A=0AOn Apr 17, 2012, at 10:57 AM, 923TE wrote:=0A=0ADoug,=0A>It's on Fox
Business News live right now.=0A>Yes very sad to see the whole program reti
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| Subject: | Re: Shuttle fly-by |
Gary
Tell more about the SR71!
Was it supersonic at 50'?
Was fuel leaking from it or is that a myth?
Ned
On Apr 17, 2012, at 11:50 AM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I worked at the Air Force Rocket Propulsion Laboratory from 1982 to 1993.
I saw a lot of shuttle landings and passes. I also got to watch one of the
engines being tested. Yes, it is sad to see that program ending.
>
> One of my favorite memories is watching an SR-71 doing a high speed fly-by
about 50 feet off the ground just before they were retired. Full after bur
ner climbout. At the time, I was working Fight Test on main base Edwards. I
was on the flightline for one of my F-16 programs when the SR-71 went by.
>
> From: Doug Ilg <doug.ilg@verizon.net>
> To: "teamgrumman-list@matronics.com" <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 7:36 AM
> Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Shuttle fly-by
>
> I just got down from the roof of the building I work in. We watched the S
pace Shuttle Discovery do its tour of DC atop its 747 carrier. It made 2 pa
sses very close to our building (we are under the flight path for National A
irport) with a T-38 in trail. I'd attach a picture, but we aren't allowed t
o have cameras, here.
>
> Very cool. And a bit sad.
>
> Thought all you aviation junkies might be interested.
>
> Doug Ilg
> Grumman Tiger N74818, College Park Airport (KCGS), Maryland
> Challenger II LSS LW (N641LG reserved) - kit underway at Laurel Suburban (
W18)
>
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| Subject: | Re: Control wheel refurb |
I have a set of Gary's yokes in my Tiger, and they look so much better
than the originals. Nice and clean, no wires hanging out by your leg for
the PTT.
http://www.aucountry.com/index.html
He put them in several years ago, and they still look pretty much new.
Thanks,
Michael
Michael W. Meyer
Tiger N74086
San Francisco, CA
michael@flightsked.com
On Apr 16, 2012, at 11:44 PM, Gary L Vogt wrote:
<teamgrumman@yahoo.com>
>
> I have "refurbished" a lot of yokes. In the process, I drill them for
built in PTT. They look very professional. AND . . . No visible wires.
It's time consuming and expensive. Figure about $320 delivered.
>
> I strip them, sand blast them, have them chem-film plated, drilled,
powder coated, and wired with PTT buttons and shielded 2-wire twisted
pair.
>
> I've powder coated with gloss black, satin black, black wrinkle, black
and gold hammertone, black and silver hammertone, and dark gray wrinkle.
I've also had the yoke shaft powder coated with satin black. The black
yoke shaft looks really cool with the powder coated yokes.
>
> Gary
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 16, 2012, at 4:39 PM, "mbcrisp" <mbcrisp87@gmail.com> wrote:
>
<mbcrisp87@gmail.com>
>>
>> Does anyone have any suggestions on where to get control wheels
refurbished? My control wheels are starting to peel and look pretty bad.
I have seen several options such as leather covers but wondered if
anyone has found a solution that really looks good. Also, has anyone
ever replaced the lower plastic panel where the the rocker switches and
throttle are located? How labor intensive is it to replace? Mine is
beginning to look really bad and has several cracks.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=371000#371000
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Control wheel refurb |
How are the wires run? Are they run through the shaft? Also, is that $320 each
or for the pair to refurbish?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=371102#371102
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| Subject: | Re: Control wheel refurb |
Mike, call me.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Michael W.
Meyer <michael@flightsked.com>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com =0ASen
t: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 3:28 PM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Control
wheel refurb=0A =0A=0AI have a set of Gary's yokes in my Tiger, and they l
ook so much better than the originals. Nice and clean, no wires hanging out
by your leg for the PTT.-=0A=0Ahttp://www.aucountry.com/index.html=0A=0A
He put them in several years ago, and they still look pretty much new.=0A
=0A=0A=0AThanks,=0AMichael=0A=0A=0AMichael W. Meyer=0A=0ATiger N74086=0ASan
Francisco, CA=0Amichael@flightsked.com=0A=0AOn Apr 16, 2012, at 11:44 PM,
<teamgrumman@yahoo.com>=0A>=0A>I have "refurbished" a lot of yokes. In the
process, I drill them for built in PTT. They look very professional. AND .
. . -No visible wires. -It's time consuming and expensive. Figure abou
t $320 delivered. =0A>=0A>I strip them, sand blast them, have them chem-fil
m plated, drilled, powder coated, and wired with PTT buttons and shielded 2
-wire twisted pair. =0A>=0A>I've powder coated with gloss black, satin blac
k, black wrinkle, black and gold hammertone, black and silver hammertone, a
nd dark gray wrinkle. I've also had the yoke shaft powder coated with satin
black. The black yoke shaft looks really cool with the powder coated yokes
. =0A>=0A>Gary=0A>Sent from my iPad=0A>=0A>On Apr 16, 2012, at 4:39 PM, "mb
crisp" <mbcrisp87@gmail.com> wrote:=0A>=0A>=0A>--> TeamGrumman-List message
posted by: "mbcrisp" <mbcrisp87@gmail.com>=0A>>=0A>=0A>>=0A>Does anyone ha
ve any suggestions on where to get control wheels refurbished? My control w
heels are starting to peel and look pretty bad. I have seen several options
such as leather covers but wondered if anyone has found a solution that re
ally looks good. Also, has anyone ever replaced the lower plastic panel whe
re the the rocker switches and throttle are located? How labor intensive is
it to replace? Mine is beginning to look really bad and has several cracks
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| Subject: | Re: Shuttle fly-by |
Don't recall any fuel leaking. -He was in a banked angle to the flight li
ne about 1/3 mile away and if I had to guess, he was doing about 300 knots.
-Not much faster (or closer) than the planes that go by at Reno.=0A=0A
=0A________________________________=0A From: 923te <923te@att.net>=0ATo: "t
eamgrumman-list@matronics.com" <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com> =0ASent: Tu
esday, April 17, 2012 10:52 AM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Shuttle fly
-by=0A =0A=0AGary=0ATell more about the SR71!=0AWas it supersonic at 50'?
=0AWas fuel leaking from it or is that a myth?=0ANed=0A=0AOn Apr 17, 2012,
at 11:50 AM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:=0A=0A=0AI worked at t
he Air Force Rocket Propulsion Laboratory from 1982 to 1993. -I saw a lot
of shuttle landings and passes. -I also got to watch one of the engines
being tested. -Yes, it is sad to see that program ending.=0A>=0A>=0A>One
of my favorite memories is watching an SR-71 doing a high speed fly-by abou
t 50 feet off the ground just before they were retired. -Full after burne
r climbout. -At the time, I was working Fight Test on main base Edwards.
-I was on the flightline for one of my F-16 programs when the SR-71 went
by. -=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>________________________________=0A> From: Doug Ilg
<doug.ilg@verizon.net>=0A>To: "teamgrumman-list@matronics.com" <teamgrumman
-list@matronics.com> =0A>Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 7:36 AM=0A>Subject:
TeamGrumman-List: Shuttle fly-by=0A> =0A>=0A>I just got down from the roof
of the building I work in.- We =0Awatched the Space Shuttle Discovery do
its tour of DC atop its 747 =0Acarrier.- It made 2 passes very close to o
ur building (we are under the =0Aflight path for National Airport) with a T
-38 in trail.- I'd attach a =0Apicture, but we aren't allowed to have cam
eras, here.=0A>=0A>=0A>Very cool.- And a bit sad.=0A>=0A>Thought all you
aviation junkies might be interested.=0A>-=0A>Doug Ilg=0A>Grumman Tiger N
74818, College Park-Airport (KCGS), Maryland=0A>Challenger II LSS LW (N64
1LG-reserved)-- kit underway at Laurel Suburban (W18)=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>ht
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| Subject: | Re: Control wheel refurb |
$320 for the pair. -Wires inside.=0A=0A=0A_______________________________
_=0A From: mbcrisp <mbcrisp87@gmail.com>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.c
om =0ASent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 3:52 PM=0ASubject: TeamGrumman-List: Re
sp" <mbcrisp87@gmail.com>=0A=0AHow are the wires run? Are they run through
the shaft? Also, is that $320 each or for the pair to refurbish?=0A=0A=0A
=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtop
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| Subject: | Backfire update. |
I installed a toggle switch to turn the controller off and on manually. -
The original installation instructions I got said it was optional -The gu
y at Electroair was adamant about it being installed and to use it for the
mag check. -I asked about the P-Lead wire that came with the unit. -He
told me to remove it from the wiring harness. -I guess their instructions
need to be updated.=0A=0AAfter the install, I did a run-up. -The AG can
now be started on both mags. -Starts really fast. -Idles a bit high.
-Reseting the timing will take some getting used to; MAP affects it.=0A
=0AGoing from both mags to right only (ignition switch to right mag) shows
almost no rpm loss. -Left mag only (turn off the Electroair.) and there i
s a little more than 100 RPM drop. -Can't wait to fly it.-
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| Subject: | Backfire update. |
You're gonna love flying it - it's really smooooooooth. And when you pull
up to the pump, it gets even better. I'll post my data from the flight back
north in the next couple of days as soon as I get caught up on work.
Dean White (Tiger N81166)
dmwhite@e3ra.com
From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 7:42 PM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Backfire update.
I installed a toggle switch to turn the controller off and on manually. The
original installation instructions I got said it was optional The guy at
Electroair was adamant about it being installed and to use it for the mag
check. I asked about the P-Lead wire that came with the unit. He told me
to remove it from the wiring harness. I guess their instructions need to be
updated.
After the install, I did a run-up. The AG can now be started on both mags.
Starts really fast. Idles a bit high. Reseting the timing will take some
getting used to; MAP affects it.
Going from both mags to right only (ignition switch to right mag) shows
almost no rpm loss. Left mag only (turn off the Electroair.) and there is a
little more than 100 RPM drop. Can't wait to fly it.
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| Subject: | Re: Backfire update. |
Dean,
Still a few kinks to work out with the wiring. I would recommend installing t
he switch on the 2 amp line. Seems to work out well.
For a long term solution I'd use two toggles like on a Citabria. Direct cont
rol over each mag without thinking too hard about it. I liked the dual toggl
es on my Citabria. I would eliminate the key altogether and install a keyed k
ill switch that interrupts the Master.
Gary
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 17, 2012, at 9:07 PM, "Dean White" <dmwhite@e3ra.com> wrote:
> You=99re gonna love flying it =93 it=99s really smoooooo
ooth. And when you pull up to the pump, it gets even better. I=99ll p
ost my data from the flight back north in the next couple of days as soon a
s I get caught up on work.
>
> Dean White (Tiger N81166)
> dmwhite@e3ra.com
>
> From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumma
n-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 7:42 PM
> To: Teamgrumman List
> Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Backfire update.
>
> I installed a toggle switch to turn the controller off and on manually. T
he original installation instructions I got said it was optional The guy at
Electroair was adamant about it being installed and to use it for the mag c
heck. I asked about the P-Lead wire that came with the unit. He told me to
remove it from the wiring harness. I guess their instructions need to be u
pdated.
>
> After the install, I did a run-up. The AG can now be started on both mags
. Starts really fast. Idles a bit high. Reseting the timing will take som
e getting used to; MAP affects it.
>
> Going from both mags to right only (ignition switch to right mag) shows al
most no rpm loss. Left mag only (turn off the Electroair.) and there is a l
ittle more than 100 RPM drop. Can't wait to fly it.
>
>
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