---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 05/23/12: 23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:46 AM - Re: Re: Fresh Air Vent (BILL9725@AOL.COM) 2. 09:01 AM - Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger (Dan Schmitz) 3. 09:12 AM - Re: Re: Fresh Air Vent (Scott Trejo) 4. 10:33 AM - Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger (Carol Stocker) 5. 10:49 AM - Re: Re: Fresh Air Vent (Gary Vogt) 6. 10:51 AM - Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger (Gary Vogt) 7. 11:01 AM - Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger (Gary Vogt) 8. 11:04 AM - Re: Cowling (mbcrisp) 9. 11:05 AM - Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger (Carol Stocker) 10. 11:28 AM - Re: Re: Fresh Air Vent (923te) 11. 11:29 AM - Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger (923te) 12. 11:45 AM - Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger (Carol Stocker) 13. 12:00 PM - Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger (Dan Schmitz) 14. 12:05 PM - Re: Fresh Air Vent (gketell) 15. 12:21 PM - Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger (Dan Schmitz) 16. 02:05 PM - Re: Re: Fresh Air Vent (Claude Allen) 17. 05:35 PM - Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger (Dan Schmitz) 18. 05:41 PM - Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger (Brian Hausknecht) 19. 07:12 PM - Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger (Dean White) 20. 09:34 PM - Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger (Gary Vogt) 21. 09:37 PM - Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger (Gary Vogt) 22. 09:43 PM - Re: Re: Cowling (Gary Vogt) 23. 09:44 PM - Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger (Gary Vogt) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:46:50 AM PST US From: BILL9725@AOL.COM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Fresh Air Vent In case this becomes a bidding war for these vents, I think they should be at least $150, even more since we all need them. So my offer $175 plus shipping, and I know that is a still a good price. Bill S In a message dated 5/22/2012 6:04:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, allenc3@bellsouth.net writes: --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Claude Allen $120 including shipping? Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2012, at 8:35 PM, "gketell" wrote: > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "gketell" > > I have a "brand new", never used set of the vents Ken Blackman at Airmods Northwest used to sell. I won them as a door prize at AYA2006. I no longer have a plane so... > > Make me an offer. Figure $9 to ship them to continental US. > > Greg K > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373609#373609 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/vents_164.jpg > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:01:25 AM PST US From: Dan Schmitz Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger And I threw in my own order. Dan Schmitz Tiger 4518B KASH From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman -list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of 923te Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:02 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim_Cancil/Planecover.com Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:03 AM Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger Ahhh ..."Jaguar Cowl". I had not heard the name. I will make a set and s end them with invoice. $65 + $7 shipping. Thanks. Jim On Tue, May 22, 2012, at 03:25 AM, 923TE wrote: Hi Jim, Brian Sandberg sent me a picture of the plugs you made for his Jaguar cowle d Tiger. I'd like to buy a pair same red color as his with my N923TE embroi dered on one of them. He said they were about $70. I can PayPal, credit car d or mail a check. Just let me know total cost to make them and send to me at Thanks, Ned ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:12:14 AM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Fresh Air Vent From: Scott Trejo I'll offer you $190 plus shipping Scott Trejo Sent from my iPhone On May 23, 2012, at 10:46 AM, BILL9725@AOL.COM wrote: > In case this becomes a bidding war for these vents, I think they should be at least $150, even more since we all need them. > > So my offer $175 plus shipping, and I know that is a still a good price. > > Bill S > > In a message dated 5/22/2012 6:04:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, allenc3@b ellsouth.net writes: t> > > $120 including shipping? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 22, 2012, at 8:35 PM, "gketell" wrote: > > > > > I have a "brand new", never used set of the vents Ken Blackman at Airmod s Northwest used to sell. I won them as a door prize at AYA2006. I no long er have a plane so... > > > > Make me an offer. Figure $9 to ship them to continental US. > > > > Greg K > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373609#373609 > > > > > > > > > > Attachments: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/vents_164.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Use ilities ay - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - List Con tribution Web Site p; > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:33:57 AM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger From: Carol Stocker I have the LoPresti cowl...how about me??? N28742......I'd like a set... Carol On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Dan Schmitz wrote: > And I threw in my own order.**** > > ** ** > > Dan Schmitz**** > > Tiger 4518B **** > > KASH**** > > ** ** > > *From:* owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *923te > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:02 PM > *To:* teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger**** > > ** ** > > **** > > ----- Original Message ----- **** > > *From:* Jim_Cancil/Planecover.com **** > > *To:* 923TE <923te@att.net> **** > > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:03 AM**** > > *Subject:* Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger**** > > ** ** > > **** > > Ahhh ..."Jaguar Cowl". I had not heard the name. I will make a set and > send them with invoice. $65 + $7 shipping. Thanks.**** > > **** > > Jim**** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > On Tue, May 22, 2012, at 03:25 AM, 923TE wrote:**** > > Hi Jim,**** > > Brian Sandberg sent me a picture of the plugs you made for his Jaguar > cowled Tiger. I'd like to buy a pair same red color as his with my N923TE > embroidered on one of them. He said they were about $70. I can PayPal, > credit card or mail a check. Just let me know total cost to make them and > send to me at**** > > Thanks,**** > > Ned**** > > **** > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:49:44 AM PST US From: Gary Vogt Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Fresh Air Vent Bill,-=0A=0AWhy not make a faceplate over the entire airbox. -Make it o ut of .020 aluminum, paint it flat black. -=0A=0AThen install three or fo ur of these per side.=0A=0Ahttp://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/pl asticeyeball.php=0A=0A=0ALots cheaper. -=0A=0A=0AGary=0A=0A=0A___________ _____________________=0A From: "BILL9725@AOL.COM" =0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 8:46 AM=0AS ubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Fresh Air Vent=0A =0A=0AIn case this beco mes a bidding war for these vents, I think they should be =0Aat least $150, even more since we all need them.- =0A-=0ASo my offer $175 plus shippi ng, and I know that is a still a good =0Aprice.- =0A-=0ABill S =0A- =0AIn a message dated 5/22/2012 6:04:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, =0Aalle nc3@bellsouth.net writes:=0A--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Claude Allen =0A>=0A>$120 including shipping?=0A>=0A>Sent from =0A my iPhone=0A>=0A>On May 22, 2012, at 8:35 PM, "gketell" =0A wrote:=0A>=0A>> --> TeamGrumman-List message =0A posted by: "gketell" =0A>> =0A>> I have a "brand =0A new", never us ed set of the vents Ken Blackman at Airmods Northwest used to =0A sell.- I won them as a door prize at AYA2006.- I no longer have a =0A plane so ...=0A>> =0A>> Make me an offer.- Figure $9 to ship them to =0A continen tal US.=0A>> =0A>> Greg K=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> Read this topic onli ne here:=0A>> =0A>> =0A http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3736 09#373609=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> Attachments: =0A>> =0A>> =0A http:/ /forums.matronics.com//files/vents_164.jpg=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A >> =0A>> =0A Use =0Ailities =0Aay =0A - - - - - -- - MATRONI CS WEB FORUMS =0A - - - - -- - List Contribution Web Site =0Ap ; - =0A - - - - - - - - - - - =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> =0A ================== ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:51:23 AM PST US From: Gary Vogt Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger Any updates on your cowl . . -. speed? -CHTs?=0A=0A=0A_________________ _______________=0A From: Dan Schmitz =0ATo: "teamgru mman-list@matronics.com" =0ASent: Wednesda y, May 23, 2012 8:57 AM=0ASubject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Ja guar Cowl on a Tiger=0A =0A=0A =0AAnd I threw in my own order.=0A-=0ADan Schmitz=0ATiger 4518B =0AKASH=0A-=0AFrom:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@ma tronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of 923te=0ASent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:02 PM=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matr onics.com=0ASubject: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tig er=0A-=0A-=0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFrom:Jim_Cancil/Planecover .com =0ATo:923TE =0ASent:Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:03 AM=0ASubject:Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger=0A-=0A-=0A-Ahhh ..."Jaguar Cowl". -I had not heard the name. -I will make a set and send them with invoic e. -$65 + $7 shipping. -Thanks.=0A-=0AJim=0A-=0A-=0A-=0A-=0A -=0AOn Tue, May 22, 2012, at 03:25 AM, 923TE wrote:=0AHi Jim,=0A>Brian Sa ndberg sent me a picture of the plugs you made for his Jaguar cowled Tiger. I'd like to buy a pair same red color as his with my N923TE embroidered on one of them. He said they were about $70. I can PayPal, credit card or mai l a check. Just let me know total cost to make them and send to me at=0A>Th =========================0A ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:01:20 AM PST US From: Gary Vogt Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger They won't fit. -The Jaguar cowling has an elliptical opening. -LoPrest i is round.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Carol Stocker =0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com =0ASent: We dnesday, May 23, 2012 10:32 AM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger=0A =0A=0AI have the LoPresti cowl...how about m e???- N28742......I'd like a set...=0ACarol=0A=0A=0AOn Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Dan Schmitz wrote:=0A=0AAnd I threw in my own order.=0A>-=0A>Dan Schmitz=0A>Tiger 4518B =0A>KASH=0A>-=0A>From :owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list -server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of 923te=0A>Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10 :02 PM=0A>To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com=0A>Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger=0A>-=0A>-=0A>----- Original Mess age ----- =0A>From:Jim_Cancil/Planecover.com =0A>To:923TE =0A>Sent:Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:03 AM=0A>Subject:Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger =0A>-=0A>-=0A>-Ahhh ..."Jaguar Cowl". -I had not heard the name. -I will make a set and send them with invoice. -$65 + $7 shipping. -T hanks.=0A>-=0A>Jim=0A>-=0A>-=0A>-=0A>-=0A>-=0A>On Tue, May 22, 2012, at 03:25 AM, 923TE wrote:=0A>Hi Jim,=0A>>Brian Sandberg sent me a pic ture of the plugs you made for his Jaguar cowled Tiger. I'd like to buy a p air same red color as his with my N923TE embroidered on one of them. He sai d they were about $70. I can PayPal, credit card or mail a check. Just let me know total cost to make them and send to me at=0A>>Thanks,=0A>>Ned=0A>> -=0A>st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman -List=0Atp://forums.matronics.com=0A_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contri ==================== ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:04:22 AM PST US Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Cowling From: "mbcrisp" Someone mentioned a 0.4 degree down thrust on the engine. The nose bowl on my '74 Traveler has not lined up well with the spinner for as long as I can remember. I was always told, "this was to help counteract torque effects during high power climb". I'm not so sure anymore. Should the nose bowl and the spinner match up and if so, how do I adjust it? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373682#373682 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:05:33 AM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger From: Carol Stocker Rats.........:) On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Gary Vogt wrote: > They won't fit. The Jaguar cowling has an elliptical opening. LoPresti > is round. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Carol Stocker > *To:* teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:32 AM > *Subject:* Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > I have the LoPresti cowl...how about me??? N28742......I'd like a set... > Carol > > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Dan Schmitz wrote: > > And I threw in my own order.**** > ** ** > Dan Schmitz**** > Tiger 4518B **** > KASH**** > ** ** > *From:* owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *923te > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:02 PM > *To:* teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger**** > ** ** > **** > ----- Original Message ----- **** > *From:* Jim_Cancil/Planecover.com **** > *To:* 923TE <923te@att.net> **** > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:03 AM**** > *Subject:* Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger**** > ** ** > **** > Ahhh ..."Jaguar Cowl". I had not heard the name. I will make a set > and send them with invoice. $65 + $7 shipping. Thanks.**** > **** > Jim**** > **** > **** > **** > **** > **** > On Tue, May 22, 2012, at 03:25 AM, 923TE wrote:**** > > Hi Jim,**** > Brian Sandberg sent me a picture of the plugs you made for his Jaguar > cowled Tiger. I'd like to buy a pair same red color as his with my N923TE > embroidered on one of them. He said they were about $70. I can PayPal, > credit card or mail a check. Just let me know total cost to make them and > send to me at**** > Thanks,**** > Ned**** > **** > > * > > st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > * > > > *http://www.matro=================== > * > > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:28:19 AM PST US From: 923te <923te@att.net> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Fresh Air Vent Hmmm I have a brand new set from the factory. Maybe I should cash in...make back w hat I lost in the stock market... Come to think of it I have at least one almost new part of everything on a T iger/ Cheetah. At these prices I'd sure be willing to sell all those parts. A ny takers?;) Ned On May 23, 2012, at 10:46 AM, BILL9725@AOL.COM wrote: > In case this becomes a bidding war for these vents, I think they should be at least $150, even more since we all need them. > > So my offer $175 plus shipping, and I know that is a still a good price. > > Bill S > > In a message dated 5/22/2012 6:04:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, allenc3@b ellsouth.net writes: t> > > $120 including shipping? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 22, 2012, at 8:35 PM, "gketell" wrote: > > > > > I have a "brand new", never used set of the vents Ken Blackman at Airmod s Northwest used to sell. I won them as a door prize at AYA2006. I no long er have a plane so... > > > > Make me an offer. Figure $9 to ship them to continental US. > > > > Greg K > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373609#373609 > > > > > > > > > > Attachments: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/vents_164.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Use ilities ay - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - List Con tribution Web Site p; > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:29:22 AM PST US From: 923te <923te@att.net> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger Jim Council has them for the LoPresti On May 23, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Carol Stocker wrote: > Rats.........:) > > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Gary Vogt wrote: > They won't fit. The Jaguar cowling has an elliptical opening. LoPresti i s round. > > From: Carol Stocker > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:32 AM > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > I have the LoPresti cowl...how about me??? N28742......I'd like a set... > Carol > > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Dan Schmitz wrot e: > And I threw in my own order. > > Dan Schmitz > Tiger 4518B > KASH > > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumma n-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of 923te > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:02 PM > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim_Cancil/Planecover.com > To: 923TE > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:03 AM > Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > > Ahhh ..."Jaguar Cowl". I had not heard the name. I will make a set and s end them with invoice. $65 + $7 shipping. Thanks. > > Jim > > > > > > On Tue, May 22, 2012, at 03:25 AM, 923TE wrote: > Hi Jim, > Brian Sandberg sent me a picture of the plugs you made for his Jaguar cowl ed Tiger. I'd like to buy a pair same red color as his with my N923TE embroi dered on one of them. He said they were about $70. I can PayPal, credit card or mail a check. Just let me know total cost to make them and send to me at > Thanks, > Ned > > > > st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > http://www.matro==================== > > > > > > st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:45:32 AM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger From: Carol Stocker Thanks....what web site is that??? On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 2:29 PM, 923te <923te@att.net> wrote: > Jim Council has them for the LoPresti > > > On May 23, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Carol Stocker > wrote: > > Rats.........:) > > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Gary Vogt < > teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> They won't fit. The Jaguar cowling has an elliptical opening. LoPresti >> is round. >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Carol Stocker < stockercarolm@gmail.com> >> *To:* teamgrumman-list@matronics.com >> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:32 AM >> *Subject:* Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger >> >> I have the LoPresti cowl...how about me??? N28742......I'd like a set... >> Carol >> >> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Dan Schmitz < >> Dan.Schmitz@calix.com> wrote: >> >> And I threw in my own order.**** >> ** ** >> Dan Schmitz**** >> Tiger 4518B **** >> KASH**** >> ** ** >> *From:* >> owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: >> owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *923te >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:02 PM >> *To:* teamgrumman-list@matronics.com >> *Subject:* TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger**** >> ** ** >> **** >> ----- Original Message ----- **** >> *From:* Jim_Cancil/Planecover.com **** >> *To:* 923TE <923te@att.net> **** >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:03 AM**** >> *Subject:* Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger**** >> ** ** >> **** >> Ahhh ..."Jaguar Cowl". I had not heard the name. I will make a set >> and send them with invoice. $65 + $7 shipping. Thanks.**** >> **** >> Jim**** >> **** >> **** >> **** >> **** >> **** >> On Tue, May 22, 2012, at 03:25 AM, 923TE wrote:**** >> >> Hi Jim,**** >> Brian Sandberg sent me a picture of the plugs you made for his Jaguar >> cowled Tiger. I'd like to buy a pair same red color as his with my N923TE >> embroidered on one of them. He said they were about $70. I can PayPal, >> credit card or mail a check. Just let me know total cost to make them and >> send to me at**** >> Thanks,**** >> Ned**** >> **** >> >> * >> >> st" target="_blank"> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List >> tp:// forums.matronics.com >> _blank"> http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> * >> >> >> * http://www.matro=================== >> * >> >> >> >> * >> >> st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> * >> >> > * > > * > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 12:00:04 PM PST US From: Dan Schmitz Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger Just this morning, I computed the density altitudes for a test run last Sat urday. It was a perfect calm day for speed testing with light winds coming off the ocean (no mountain waves). But then I forgot most of my past resu lts are on a my airplane's pocket PC back home. I don't think my new numbe rs are much different maybe one or two knots better. I dropped in on Brook s with the hopes of talking to him about making some of the adjustments you noted but he was off with his kids. Do you think if I plug the hole in the one baffle and close the gap in the top center with some rubber, will that make any difference? Dan Schmitz Tiger 4518B KASH From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics. com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:50 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger Any updates on your cowl . . . speed? CHTs? ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 12:05:11 PM PST US Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Fresh Air Vent From: "gketell" WOW!!! I wish I had more of these things. I also wish I had set it up as an auction, but I didn't: They went to the first-responder, Allen3C. GK Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373693#373693 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:21:56 PM PST US From: Dan Schmitz Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger Oh, and you asked about CHTs. Yeah, they're generally in the low 300s. Th e only one I paid attention two last Saturday was #3. I was at 8,500' full power, leaned as much as possible, then pulled into a 10 degree climb, pro bably 80 knots, touched no other controls (still leaned). Around 10,000 fe et, #3 hit 410 degrees, so I eased off to a 5 degree climb and the temp dro pped below 400 when I reached my next test altitude and leveled off. For t hose that may not have caught this before, I'm theoretically breaking in #3 after some rework. In high power level flight, I don't think it's gone ab ove 370. I'm beginning to wonder if it never needed break in, break in is still ongoing, or it's broken in and temps are what they are. The temps ha ven't changed dramatically since the annual. Back then I think they were i n the 380s and now I think 370s. Of course back then it was winter and now it's spring. Is that all the temperature drop I'll see? Dan Schmitz Tiger 4518B KASH From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman -list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Schmitz Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:56 PM Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger Just this morning, I computed the density altitudes for a test run last Sat urday. It was a perfect calm day for speed testing with light winds coming off the ocean (no mountain waves). But then I forgot most of my past resu lts are on a my airplane's pocket PC back home. I don't think my new numbe rs are much different maybe one or two knots better. I dropped in on Brook s with the hopes of talking to him about making some of the adjustments you noted but he was off with his kids. Do you think if I plug the hole in the one baffle and close the gap in the top center with some rubber, will that make any difference? Dan Schmitz Tiger 4518B KASH From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics. com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:50 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger Any updates on your cowl . . . speed? CHTs? ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:05:18 PM PST US From: Claude Allen Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Fresh Air Vent Sure glad I bought them before these guys jumped in. Think these guys must h ang out on eBay! Sent from my iPhone On May 23, 2012, at 2:27 PM, 923te <923te@att.net> wrote: > Hmmm > I have a brand new set from the factory. Maybe I should cash in...make bac k what I lost in the stock market... > > Come to think of it I have at least one almost new part of everything on a Tiger/ Cheetah. At these prices I'd sure be willing to sell all those parts . Any takers?;) > Ned > > On May 23, 2012, at 10:46 AM, BILL9725@AOL.COM wrote: > >> In case this becomes a bidding war for these vents, I think they should b e at least $150, even more since we all need them. >> >> So my offer $175 plus shipping, and I know that is a still a good price. >> >> Bill S >> >> In a message dated 5/22/2012 6:04:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, allenc3@ bellsouth.net writes: et> >> >> $120 including shipping? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 22, 2012, at 8:35 PM, "gketell" wrote: >> >> > >> > I have a "brand new", never used set of the vents Ken Blackman at Airmo ds Northwest used to sell. I won them as a door prize at AYA2006. I no lon ger have a plane so... >> > >> > Make me an offer. Figure $9 to ship them to continental US. >> > >> > Greg K >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Read this topic online here: >> > >> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373609#373609 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Attachments: >> > >> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/vents_164.jpg >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Use ilities ay - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - List Co ntribution Web Site p; >> >> >> >> >> >> > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 05:35:33 PM PST US From: Dan Schmitz Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger Ok, went through and compared numbers. My plane isn't any faster than last year. Maybe a knot slower actually. That's comparing IAS before and afte r adjusted for density altitude as well as GPS derived airspeed (by flying three directions) come out about the same as well. Below 9000' I kept the prop at 2700 RPM (using external monitor not tach) so engine power isn't a variable. At higher altitudes I used whatever full throttle got me and in both cases RPMs were generally the same at comparable density altitudes. Dan From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman -list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Schmitz Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:56 PM Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger Just this morning, I computed the density altitudes for a test run last Sat urday. It was a perfect calm day for speed testing with light winds coming off the ocean (no mountain waves). But then I forgot most of my past resu lts are on a my airplane's pocket PC back home. I don't think my new numbe rs are much different maybe one or two knots better. I dropped in on Brook s with the hopes of talking to him about making some of the adjustments you noted but he was off with his kids. Do you think if I plug the hole in the one baffle and close the gap in the top center with some rubber, will that make any difference? Dan Schmitz Tiger 4518B KASH From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics. com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:50 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger Any updates on your cowl . . . speed? CHTs? ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 05:41:35 PM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger From: "Brian Hausknecht" U28gR2FyeSdzIGNvd2xpbmcgZGVjcmVhc2VzIHNwZWVkPw0KQnJpYW4gSGF1c2tuZWNodA0KYmhh dXNrbmVAZ21haWwuY29tDQp3d3cuYnJpYW5mbHlzLm5ldA0Kd3d3LmJyaWFuZmx5cy5jb20NClNl bnQgZnJvbSBteSBCbGFja2JlcnJ5DQoNCi0tLS0tT3JpZ2luYWwgTWVzc2FnZS0tLS0tDQpGcm9t OiBEYW4gU2NobWl0eiA8RGFuLlNjaG1pdHpAY2FsaXguY29tPg0KU2VuZGVyOiBvd25lci10ZWFt Z3J1bW1hbi1saXN0LXNlcnZlckBtYXRyb25pY3MuY29tDQpEYXRlOiBUaHUsIDI0IE1heSAyMDEy IDAwOjMwOjU4IA0KVG86IHRlYW1ncnVtbWFuLWxpc3RAbWF0cm9uaWNzLmNvbTx0ZWFtZ3J1bW1h bi1saXN0QG1hdHJvbmljcy5jb20+DQpSZXBseS1UbzogdGVhbWdydW1tYW4tbGlzdEBtYXRyb25p Y3MuY29tU3ViamVjdDogUkU6IFRlYW1HcnVtbWFuLUxpc3Q6IElubGV0IFBsdWdzIGZvciBKYWd1 YXIgQ293bCBvbiBhIFRpZ2VyDQoNCk9rLCB3ZW50IHRocm91Z2ggYW5kIGNvbXBhcmVkIG51bWJl cnMuICBNeSBwbGFuZSBpc24ndCBhbnkgZmFzdGVyIHRoYW4gbGFzdCB5ZWFyLiAgTWF5YmUgYSBr bm90IHNsb3dlciBhY3R1YWxseS4gIFRoYXQncyBjb21wYXJpbmcgSUFTIGJlZm9yZSBhbmQgYWZ0 ZXIgYWRqdXN0ZWQgZm9yIGRlbnNpdHkgYWx0aXR1ZGUgYXMgd2VsbCBhcyBHUFMgZGVyaXZlZCBh aXJzcGVlZCAoYnkgZmx5aW5nIHRocmVlIGRpcmVjdGlvbnMpIGNvbWUgb3V0IGFib3V0IHRoZSBz YW1lIGFzIHdlbGwuICBCZWxvdyA5MDAwJyBJIGtlcHQgdGhlIHByb3AgYXQgMjcwMCBSUE0gKHVz aW5nIGV4dGVybmFsIG1vbml0b3Igbm90IHRhY2gpIHNvIGVuZ2luZSBwb3dlciBpc24ndCBhIHZh cmlhYmxlLiAgQXQgaGlnaGVyIGFsdGl0dWRlcyBJIHVzZWQgd2hhdGV2ZXIgZnVsbCB0aHJvdHRs ZSBnb3QgbWUgYW5kIGluIGJvdGggY2FzZXMgUlBNcyB3ZXJlIGdlbmVyYWxseSB0aGUgc2FtZSBh dCBjb21wYXJhYmxlIGRlbnNpdHkgYWx0aXR1ZGVzLg0KDQoNCkRhbg0KDQoNCkZyb206IG93bmVy LXRlYW1ncnVtbWFuLWxpc3Qtc2VydmVyQG1hdHJvbmljcy5jb20gW21haWx0bzpvd25lci10ZWFt Z3J1bW1hbi1saXN0LXNlcnZlckBtYXRyb25pY3MuY29tXSBPbiBCZWhhbGYgT2YgRGFuIFNjaG1p dHoNClNlbnQ6IFdlZG5lc2RheSwgTWF5IDIzLCAyMDEyIDI6NTYgUE0NClRvOiB0ZWFtZ3J1bW1h bi1saXN0QG1hdHJvbmljcy5jb20NClN1YmplY3Q6IFJFOiBUZWFtR3J1bW1hbi1MaXN0OiBJbmxl dCBQbHVncyBmb3IgSmFndWFyIENvd2wgb24gYSBUaWdlcg0KDQpKdXN0IHRoaXMgbW9ybmluZywg SSBjb21wdXRlZCB0aGUgZGVuc2l0eSBhbHRpdHVkZXMgZm9yIGEgdGVzdCBydW4gbGFzdCBTYXR1 cmRheS4gIEl0IHdhcyBhIHBlcmZlY3QgY2FsbSBkYXkgZm9yIHNwZWVkIHRlc3Rpbmcgd2l0aCBs aWdodCB3aW5kcyBjb21pbmcgb2ZmIHRoZSBvY2VhbiAobm8gbW91bnRhaW4gd2F2ZXMpLiAgQnV0 IHRoZW4gSSBmb3Jnb3QgbW9zdCBvZiBteSBwYXN0IHJlc3VsdHMgYXJlIG9uIGEgbXkgYWlycGxh bmUncyBwb2NrZXQgUEMgYmFjayBob21lLiAgSSBkb24ndCB0aGluayBteSBuZXcgbnVtYmVycyBh cmUgbXVjaCBkaWZmZXJlbnQgbWF5YmUgb25lIG9yIHR3byBrbm90cyBiZXR0ZXIuICBJIGRyb3Bw ZWQgaW4gb24gQnJvb2tzIHdpdGggdGhlIGhvcGVzIG9mIHRhbGtpbmcgdG8gaGltIGFib3V0IG1h a2luZyBzb21lIG9mIHRoZSBhZGp1c3RtZW50cyB5b3Ugbm90ZWQgYnV0IGhlIHdhcyBvZmYgd2l0 aCBoaXMga2lkcy4NCg0KRG8geW91IHRoaW5rIGlmIEkgcGx1ZyB0aGUgaG9sZSBpbiB0aGUgb25l IGJhZmZsZSBhbmQgY2xvc2UgdGhlIGdhcCBpbiB0aGUgdG9wIGNlbnRlciB3aXRoIHNvbWUgcnVi YmVyLCB3aWxsIHRoYXQgbWFrZSBhbnkgZGlmZmVyZW5jZT8NCg0KRGFuIFNjaG1pdHoNClRpZ2Vy IDQ1MThCDQpLQVNIDQoNCg0KRnJvbTogb3duZXItdGVhbWdydW1tYW4tbGlzdC1zZXJ2ZXJAbWF0 cm9uaWNzLmNvbTxtYWlsdG86b3duZXItdGVhbWdydW1tYW4tbGlzdC1zZXJ2ZXJAbWF0cm9uaWNz LmNvbT4gW21haWx0bzpvd25lci10ZWFtZ3J1bW1hbi1saXN0LXNlcnZlckBtYXRyb25pY3MuY29t XSBPbiBCZWhhbGYgT2YgR2FyeSBWb2d0DQpTZW50OiBXZWRuZXNkYXksIE1heSAyMywgMjAxMiAx OjUwIFBNDQpUbzogdGVhbWdydW1tYW4tbGlzdEBtYXRyb25pY3MuY29tPG1haWx0bzp0ZWFtZ3J1 bW1hbi1saXN0QG1hdHJvbmljcy5jb20+DQpTdWJqZWN0OiBSZTogVGVhbUdydW1tYW4tTGlzdDog SW5sZXQgUGx1Z3MgZm9yIEphZ3VhciBDb3dsIG9uIGEgVGlnZXINCg0KQW55IHVwZGF0ZXMgb24g eW91ciBjb3dsIC4gLiAgLiBzcGVlZD8gIENIVHM/DQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoN Cg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0K ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 07:12:44 PM PST US From: "Dean White" Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger NOT! Dean White (Tiger N81166) Edmonds, WA 98026 dmwhite@e3ra.com From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Hausknecht Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:41 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger So Gary's cowling decreases speed? Brian Hausknecht bhauskne@gmail.com www.brianflys.net www.brianflys.com _____ From: Dan Schmitz Sender: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger Ok, went through and comp= ared numbers. My plane isn=92t any faster than last year. M= aybe a knot slower actually. That=92s comparing IAS before and af= ter adjusted for density altitude as well as GPS derived airspeed (by flying three dire= ctions) come out about the same as well. Below 9000=92 I kept the= prop at 2700 RPM (using external monitor not tach) so engine power isnR= 17;t a variable. At higher altitudes I used whatever full throttle got me and in both cases RPMs were generally the same at com= parable density altitudes. <= /p> <= /p> Dan <= /p> <= /p> From: owner-te= amgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@m= atronics.com ] On Behalf Of Dan Schmitz Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:56 PM Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tige= r Just this morning, I comp= uted the density altitudes for a test run last Saturday. It was a per= fect calm day for speed testing with light winds coming off the ocean (no mountain waves). But then I forgot most of my past results= are on a my airplane=92s pocket PC back home. I don=92t thin= k my new numbers are much different maybe one or two knots better. I = dropped in on Brooks with the hopes of talking to him about making some of the adjustments you noted but he was off with his kids. <= /p> Do you think if I plug th= e hole in the one baffle and close the gap in the top center with some rubb= er, will that make any difference? <= /p> Dan Schmitz Tiger 4518B KASH <= /p> <= /p> From: owner-teamgr= umman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com= ] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:50 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tige= r Any updates on your= cowl . . . speed? 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=C2-CHTs?=0A=C2-=0A=C2 -=0A=C2-=0A=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D =0AeamGrumman-List Email Forum - =0A>=0A:p>=0A/o:p>=0Ator?TeamGr umman-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List =0A=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =0Absp;=C2-=C2-=C2- - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - =0A:p>=0Atp://forums.mat ronics.com =0A=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D =0Absp;=C2- - List Contribution Web Site - =0Ae>=0Absp;=C2- =C2-=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-&nbs==0Ap; =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2--Matt Dralle, List Admin.< ==0A/b>=0A bution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution =0A=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D =0A=C2=C2=B7=BA~=B0=C3=AD=C2=B2,=C3=9Eg( =93=C5-=C3=93M4=C3=93G=C3=9Aq=C3=BC=C2=A2=C3=C3=A2z=C2=B9=C3=9E=C3 =81=C3=8A.=C2=AE'=C2=AB8^M=C3=C2=C2=BB=C2=84=A2=C2=A9=C3=8B=C5 -=C3=8BD=84=A2=C2=A8=C2=A5=C5-=C3=AE=EF=BD,z=C3=98^1=C2=ABk=C2=A2 x=C5=93=C2=B0=C2=B8=C2=AC=C2=B4W=C5=A1=C2=B6=C3=C3=9E=C2=B0=C3'=C2=AF =C5-=C2=AD=C2=A2=C2=BBhn=C2=BA0=C2=B1=C3=AD=C3=A9=C5=A1=C5=B8" =C3=A2=C2=B2=C3=9B=C2=AD=C5-X=C2=AD=B0=C3=AB,=C2=B9=C3=88Z=C2=B0=C2 =B8=C2=AC=C2=B5I=C3J=C3=C3=ACr=C2=B8=C2=A9=C2=B6*' ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 09:37:25 PM PST US From: Gary Vogt Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger Dan, I really can't tell from here what is with your plane. =C2-I've inst alled 7 Jaguar Cowlings and not one was slower. =C2-Do you know how to co mpute True Airspeed? =C2-Indicated airspeed is meaningless.=0A=0A=0A_____ ___________________________=0A From: Dan Schmitz =0A nt: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:55 AM=0ASubject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger=0A =0A=0A =0AJust this morning, I compute d the density altitudes for a test run last Saturday.=C2- It was a perfec t calm day for speed testing with light winds coming off the ocean (no moun tain waves).=C2- But then I forgot most of my past results are on a my ai rplane=99s pocket PC back home.=C2- I don=99t think my new nu mbers are much different maybe one or two knots better.=C2- I dropped in on Brooks with the hopes of talking to him about making some of the adjustm ents you noted but he was off with his kids.=0A=C2-=0ADo you think if I p lug the hole in the one baffle and close the gap in the top center with som e rubber, will that make any difference?=0A=C2-=0ADan Schmitz=0ATiger 451 8B=0AKASH=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0AFrom:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics. com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt=0ASent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:50 PM=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matroni cs.com=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Ti ger=0A=C2-=0AAny updates on your cowl . . =C2-. speed? =C2-CHTs?=0A ===================== ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 09:43:24 PM PST US From: Gary Vogt Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Cowling Send some pics.=0A=0AFirst, if you just want to line up with the cowling, s tep back and take a look at the relationship between the spinner and the co wling. -If the upper right (left as you're facing it) is high, add a shim to the upper right engine mount bushing. -The shim will go between the s hock absorber and the engine. -Conversely, you can remove a shim on the l ower left. -=0A=0AI optimise the spinner to cowling fit by setting the pr op about 1/8 inch low with respect to the top-middle if the spinner/cowling . -The engine moves up in flight.=0ASide-to-side, I center on the cowling .=0A=0AGary=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: mbcrisp =0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Wednesday, M ay 23, 2012 11:04 AM=0ASubject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Cowling=0A =0A--> Tea mGrumman-List message posted by: "mbcrisp" =0A=0ASomeo ne mentioned a 0.4 degree down thrust on the engine. The nose bowl on my '7 4 Traveler has not lined up well with the spinner for as long as I can reme mber. I was always told, "this was to help counteract torque effects during high power climb". I'm not so sure anymore. Should the nose bowl and the s pinner match up and if so, how do I adjust it?=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topi c online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373682#37 = ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 09:44:16 PM PST US From: Gary Vogt Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger Dean, what is your experience with the cowling?=0A=0A=0A___________________ _____________=0A From: Dean White =0ATo: teamgrumman-list @matronics.com =0ASent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 7:12 PM=0ASubject: RE: Team Grumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger=0A =0A=0ANOT!=0A=C2- =0ADean White (Tiger N81166)=0AEdmonds, WA 98026=0Admwhite@e3ra.com=0A=C2 -=0AFrom:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgr umman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Hausknecht=0ASent: Wedn esday, May 23, 2012 5:41 PM=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger=0A=C2-=0ASo Gary's cowling decreases speed?=0ABrian Hausknecht=0Abhauskne@gmail.com=0A __________________________=0A=0AFrom: Dan Schmitz =0ASender: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com =0ADate: Thu, 24 May 2012 00:30:58 +0000=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com=0AReplyTo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: RE: Tea mGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger=0A=C2-=0AOk, went t hrough and comp= ared numbers.=C2- My plane isn=99t any faster th an last year.=C2- M= aybe a knot slower actually.=C2- That=99s comparing IAS before and af= ter adjusted for density altitude as well as GPS derived airspeed (by flying three dire= ctions) come out about the s ame as well.=C2- Below 9000=99 I kept the= prop at 2700 RPM (usin g external monitor not tach) so engine power isnR= 17;t a variable.=C2- At higher altitudes I used whatever full throttle got me and in both cases RPMs were generally the same at com= parable density altitudes.=0A=C2- <= /p> =0A=C2- <= /p> =0ADan=0A=C2- <= /p> =0A=C2- <= /p> =0AFrom: owner-te= amgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-team grumman-list-server@m= atronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Schmitz=0ASent: Wed nesday, May 23, 2012 2:56 PM=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com=0ASubject : RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tige= r=0A=C2- =0AJust this morning, I comp= uted the density altitudes for a test run l ast Saturday.=C2- It was a per= fect calm day for speed testing with li ght winds coming off the ocean (no mountain waves).=C2- But then I forgot most of my past results= are on a my airplane=99s pocket PC back h ome.=C2- I don=99t thin= k my new numbers are much different mayb e one or two knots better.=C2- I = dropped in on Brooks with the hopes of talking to him about making some of the adjustments you noted but he was off with his kids.=0A=C2- <= /p> =0ADo you think if I plug th= e hol e in the one baffle and close the gap in the top center with some rubb= e r, will that make any difference?=0A=C2- <= /p> =0ADan Schmitz=0ATiger 4518B=0AKASH=0A=C2- <= /p> =0A=C2- <= /p> =0AFrom: owner-teamgr= umman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matro nics.com= ] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt=0ASent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:50 P M=0ATo: teamgrumman-li= st@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tige= r=0A=C2-=0AAny updates on your = cowl . . =C2-. speed? 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