---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 05/27/12: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:23 AM - Re: Improve fit of upper cowl (bkspero) 2. 02:21 PM - Re: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl (Gary Vogt) 3. 02:49 PM - Parting out AA1B (Gary Vogt) 4. 07:50 PM - Re: Parting out AA1B (n32romeo@AOL.COM) 5. 08:22 PM - Re: Parting out AA1B (Airport Bum) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:23:17 AM PST US Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl From: "bkspero" teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com wrote: > Barry, if you had wanted a near perfect plane, you missed your opportunity. The original cowling is built to the nearest .3 inches. Yours looks fine to me. > > Barry, go find some other Cheetahs/Tigers. You'll see they are all the same. > > I think you and I agree...that there is nothing unusual enough about the fit and setup of the nose of my plane to explain the large gaps at the bends of the upper cowl where it meets the nosebowl and the front fuselage. If you're saying that 3/8" to 1/2" gaps at those spots are also normal, that isn't what I think I've seen on other planes. But l'll look again more closely around the airport. I think we have at least 5 other AA5's. BTW, I actually measured the gaps yesterday instead of estimating. That's why the 2nd number changed. Or am I misinterpreting the situation about those gaps and you consider them to be normal, too? BTW, it sunk in that there was no such thing as a perfect 35 year old airplane somewhere between the 250th and 275th time you told me that As always, thanks for all that you contribute here, Barry S(2) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374037#374037 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:21:01 PM PST US From: Gary Vogt Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl Barry,-=0A=0AThe gaps in the corners, where is doesn't fit well, is not n ormal. -But, a lot of planes do that due to misuse and abuse of the cowli ng. -Some are worse than others. -There really aren't a lot of options to fix that. -I have seen people put cam-locks in the corners. -Seen th em across the front. -If the latching mechanism weren't so screwy, I'd ma ke a fiberglass replacement for them. -=0A=0ASend a pic of you measuring the gap.=0AGary=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: bkspero =0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Sunday, May 2 7, 2012 6:22 AM=0ASubject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl >=0A=0A=0Ateamgrumman(at)yahoo.com wrote:=0A> Barry, if you had wanted a ne ar perfect plane, you missed your opportunity.- The original cowling is b uilt to the nearest .3 inches.- Yours looks fine to me.=0A> =0A> Barry, g o find some other Cheetahs/Tigers.- You'll see they are all the same.- =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0AI think you and I agree...that there is nothing unusual enough about the fit and setup of the nose of my plane to explain the large gaps at the bends of the upper cowl where it meets the nosebowl and the fr ont fuselage.=0A=0AIf you're saying that 3/8" to 1/2" gaps at those spots a re also normal, that isn't what I think I've seen on other planes.- But l 'll look again more closely around the airport.- I think we have at least 5 other AA5's.- BTW, I actually measured the gaps yesterday instead of e stimating.- That's why the 2nd number changed.=0A=0AOr am I misinterpreti ng the situation about those gaps and you consider them to be normal, too? =0A=0ABTW, it sunk in that there was no such thing as a perfect 35 year old airplane somewhere between the 250th and 275th time you told me that =0A =0AAs always, thanks for all that you contribute here,=0A=0ABarry S(2)=0A =0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/v =========== ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:49:32 PM PST US From: Gary Vogt Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Parting out AA1B I know, I know, "me" and an AA1? -=0A=0AOne of my customers has an '73 AA 1B that needs a new engine. -Rather than spend $15-20K on a new engine, h e bought a Traveler for $17,000.=0A=0A=0AWe'll be using the instrument pane l overlays and eyebrow, etc, for the Traveler. -Other than that, I'm keep ing the fuselage for cowling mock-ups.=0A=0AThe wings, horizontal, vertical , and control surfaces look pretty good. -Fairly nice windshield and cano py. -=0A=0ALet me know if you know of anyone who is interested in parts f or AA1Bs=0A=0AGary ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:50:36 PM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Parting out AA1B From: n32romeo@AOL.COM What shape is the top cowl in? Rich -----Original Message----- From: Gary Vogt Sent: Sun, May 27, 2012 2:50 pm Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Parting out AA1B I know, I know, "me" and an AA1? One of my customers has an '73 AA1B that needs a new engine. Rather than s pend $15-20K on a new engine, he bought a Traveler for $17,000. We'll be using the instrument panel overlays and eyebrow, etc, for the Trav eler. Other than that, I'm keeping the fuselage for cowling mock-ups. The wings, horizontal, vertical, and control surfaces look pretty good. Fa irly nice windshield and canopy. Let me know if you know of anyone who is interested in parts for AA1Bs Gary ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:22:55 PM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Parting out AA1B From: Airport Bum I think that a guy in Texas was looking for a wing. Don't remember the details, but you might check with Garner. Kevin n32romeo@AOL.COM wrote: > >What shape is the top cowl in? >Rich > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Gary Vogt >To: Teamgrumman List >Sent: Sun, May 27, 2012 2:50 pm >Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Parting out AA1B > > >I know, I know, "me" and an AA1? > > >One of my customers has an '73 AA1B that needs a new engine. Rather than spend $15-20K on a new engine, he bought a Traveler for $17,000. > > >We'll be using the instrument panel overlays and eyebrow, etc, for the Traveler. Other than that, I'm keeping the fuselage for cowling mock-ups. > > >The wings, horizontal, vertical, and control surfaces look pretty good. Fairly nice windshield and canopy. > > >Let me know if you know of anyone who is interested in parts for AA1Bs > > >Gary > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message teamgrumman-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/TeamGrumman-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/teamgrumman-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/teamgrumman-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.