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1. 06:05 AM - Re: Improve fit of upper cowl (bkspero)
2. 06:12 AM - Re: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl (Dan Schmitz)
3. 07:34 AM - Re: Improve fit of upper cowl (bkspero)
4. 07:47 AM - Re: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl (FLYaDIVE)
5. 08:40 AM - Re: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl (Dan Schmitz)
6. 11:41 AM - Re: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl (Gary Vogt)
7. 04:38 PM - Re: Improve fit of upper cowl (bkspero)
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Subject: | Re: Improve fit of upper cowl |
teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com wrote:
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> Send a pic of you measuring the gap.
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>
At first I thought you wanted a photo of my smiling face while I was measuring
the gap...but reconsidered after I looked in the mirror.
So tried to take photos, of the gap being measured. But camera did not resolve
the fine graduations on the scale that I have.
I think anything more is moot, though. If there is no easy correction, then I
will leave well enough alone. The plane is a joy to fly, gaps and all. I can
always tell people that I am working on a Cooling STC!
Thanks again, Gary
Barry
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Subject: | Re: Improve fit of upper cowl |
At the risk of being way off in the weeds...
Isn't it possible to adjust the height of the cowl latches? Has that been tried
to pull the top cowl down more?
Dan Schmitz
Tiger 4518B
KASH
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-
> teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bkspero
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:04 AM
> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl
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> teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com wrote:
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> > Send a pic of you measuring the gap.
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> At first I thought you wanted a photo of my smiling face while I was
> measuring the gap...but reconsidered after I looked in the mirror.
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> So tried to take photos, of the gap being measured. But camera did not
> resolve the fine graduations on the scale that I have.
>
> I think anything more is moot, though. If there is no easy correction,
> then I will leave well enough alone. The plane is a joy to fly, gaps
> and all. I can always tell people that I am working on a Cooling STC!
>
> Thanks again, Gary
> Barry
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374155#374155
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Subject: | Re: Improve fit of upper cowl |
Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com wrote:
> At the risk of being way off in the weeds...
> Isn't it possible to adjust the height of the cowl latches? Has that been tried
to pull the top cowl down more?
>
> Dan Schmitz
> Tiger 4518B
> KASH
>
>
Unless I misunderstand what you are suggesting, Dan, I don't think so. Not unless
we trim a fair amount from the lower edge of each upper cowl half. If you
look up a few posts at the photo titled:
left_side_horizontal_cowl_seam_117.jpg
you can see that the horizontal seam between the upper and lower cowls is tight.
So I think any downward adjustment of the latch position on the lower cowl
(and I don't know if it is adjustable or not) to pull the upper cowl down and
close the gaps will cause the upper cowl to overlap what should be an exposed
portion of the lower cowl. It would, I think, trade one misfit for another.
On the bright side, I have great low cylinder temperatures. So, I could either
attribute that to the superior job Gary did for the prior owner installing the
rebuilt engine and building new baffles, OR I could attribute them to enhanced
airflow due to the gaps at the corner of the cowling. Since I would rather
not compliment Gary, I will point to the cowling gaps.
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Subject: | Re: Improve fit of upper cowl |
Very Good Barry...
You are 100% correct, your upper to lower cowl gap is correct and
tightening the latch would do damage not improve what I have seen in the
pictures.
Gee... I hope Gary takes what you said as a complement - He does not read
very well and jumps to conclusions. I took it as a complement to his
workmanship ;-)
Off to the AP to work on my lame bird.
BIRD! Did some one say BIRD. Keep an eye open during pre-flight. There
are hundredths of birds nesting out there... I pulled three nests from
planes so far.
Did you put foam, in your wing tips, where the counter-balance weights exit?
Barry
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:32 AM, bkspero <bkspero@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com wrote:
> > At the risk of being way off in the weeds...
> > Isn't it possible to adjust the height of the cowl latches? Has that
> been tried to pull the top cowl down more?
> >
> > Dan Schmitz
> > Tiger 4518B
> > KASH
> >
> >
>
>
> Unless I misunderstand what you are suggesting, Dan, I don't think so.
> Not unless we trim a fair amount from the lower edge of each upper cowl
> half. If you look up a few posts at the photo titled:
>
> left_side_horizontal_cowl_seam_117.jpg
>
> you can see that the horizontal seam between the upper and lower cowls is
> tight. So I think any downward adjustment of the latch position on the
> lower cowl (and I don't know if it is adjustable or not) to pull the upper
> cowl down and close the gaps will cause the upper cowl to overlap what
> should be an exposed portion of the lower cowl. It would, I think, trade
> one misfit for another.
>
> On the bright side, I have great low cylinder temperatures. So, I could
> either attribute that to the superior job Gary did for the prior owner
> installing the rebuilt engine and building new baffles, OR I could
> attribute them to enhanced airflow due to the gaps at the corner of the
> cowling. Since I would rather not compliment Gary, I will point to the
> cowling gaps.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374172#374172
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Improve fit of upper cowl |
You understood correctly. I just didn't look closely enough at the pictures.
Dan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-
> teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bkspero
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:32 AM
> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl
>
>
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> Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com wrote:
> > At the risk of being way off in the weeds...
> > Isn't it possible to adjust the height of the cowl latches? Has that
> been tried to pull the top cowl down more?
> >
> > Dan Schmitz
> > Tiger 4518B
> > KASH
> >
> >
>
>
> Unless I misunderstand what you are suggesting, Dan, I don't think so.
> Not unless we trim a fair amount from the lower edge of each upper cowl
> half. If you look up a few posts at the photo titled:
>
> left_side_horizontal_cowl_seam_117.jpg
>
> you can see that the horizontal seam between the upper and lower cowls
> is tight. So I think any downward adjustment of the latch position on
> the lower cowl (and I don't know if it is adjustable or not) to pull
> the upper cowl down and close the gaps will cause the upper cowl to
> overlap what should be an exposed portion of the lower cowl. It would,
> I think, trade one misfit for another.
>
> On the bright side, I have great low cylinder temperatures. So, I
> could either attribute that to the superior job Gary did for the prior
> owner installing the rebuilt engine and building new baffles, OR I
> could attribute them to enhanced airflow due to the gaps at the corner
> of the cowling. Since I would rather not compliment Gary, I will point
> to the cowling gaps.
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374172#374172
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Improve fit of upper cowl |
Hi Barry,=0A=0ACan you push the corner down? -Is there a gap at the matin
g surface to the lower cowling? -Odds are, there isn't much you can do.
=0A=0AGary=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: bkspero <bkspe
ro@gmail.com>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Tuesday, May 29
, 2012 6:03 AM=0ASubject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl
>=0A=0A=0Ateamgrumman(at)yahoo.com wrote:=0A> =0A> =0A> Send a pic of you m
easuring the gap.=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0AAt first I thought you wanted a photo o
f my smiling face while I was measuring the gap...but reconsidered after I
looked in the mirror.=0A=0ASo tried to take photos, of the gap being measur
ed.- But camera did not resolve the fine graduations on the scale that I
have.=0A=0AI think anything more is moot, though.- If there is no easy co
rrection, then I will leave well enough alone.- The plane is a joy to fly
, gaps and all.- I can always tell people that I am working on a Cooling
STC!=0A=0AThanks again, Gary=0ABarry=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online h
ere:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374155#374155=0A=0A
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Subject: | Re: Improve fit of upper cowl |
teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com wrote:
> Hi Barry,
>
> Can you push the corner down? Is there a gap at the mating surface to the lower
cowling? Odds are, there isn't much you can do.
>
> Gary
>
I've tried to push it tighter originally, but the bottom of the upper cowl sits
tightly and evenly on the mating surface of the lower cowl. There's no room
for meaningful further closure. I show photos of both the left and right sides
in the big block of images I attached a few notes above. You can see that the
seam is tight.
If this is the worst issue I ever have with 74429, I will be a lucky pilot!
Thanks again for everyone's input and help.
Barry S(2)
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