---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 06/03/12: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:14 AM - Nose gear torque tube. (Gary L Vogt) 2. 11:22 AM - Re: Nose gear torque tube. (Bob Steward) 3. 11:35 AM - Re: Re: Nose gear torque tube. (Gary Vogt) 4. 11:47 AM - Nose gear torque tube bolts (Gary Vogt) 5. 11:59 AM - Re: Re: Nose gear torque tube. (Bob Steward) 6. 12:15 PM - Re: Nose gear torque tube bolts (Bob Steward) 7. 12:31 PM - Re: Re: Nose gear torque tube bolts (Gary Vogt) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:14:14 AM PST US Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Nose gear torque tube. From: Gary L Vogt Bob, I stripped the paint off the torque tube and found a few locations of rust. Can I remove the bolts near the center to expose the tube where the collar sits? I've never taken one apart before. Gary Sent from my iPad ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:22:28 AM PST US Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Nose gear torque tube. From: Bob Steward I have some better ones, but will have to keep digging for them. http://mira.sbw.org/photos/20050909/P9090219/ If yours has the shear bolts at the inboard ends, you can't get the brackets too far apart. --Bob Steward ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:35:12 AM PST US From: Gary Vogt Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Nose gear torque tube. Bob,-=0A=0AMine has two NAS bolts near the inboard attaching brackets. -Can I remove those bolts?=0A=0AGary=0A=0A=0A____________________________ ____=0A From: Bob Steward =0ATo: teamgrumman-list@m atronics.com =0ASent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 11:21 AM=0ASubject: TeamGrumman- List: Re: Nose gear torque tube.=0A =0A--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Bob Steward =0A=0AI have some better ones, but will have to keep digging for them.=0A=0Ahttp://mira.sbw.org/photos/2005090 9/P9090219/=0A=0AIf yours has the shear bolts at the inboard ends, you can' =========== ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:47:11 AM PST US From: Gary Vogt Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Nose gear torque tube bolts OK, let's try again.=0A=0AI removed the nose gear torque tube from 28747. -=0AI stripped all of the paint.=0AUnder the paint in a few places is rus t. -=0AOne place is at a joint . . -I'll investigate that today.=0A=0AO n the inboard are two bolts, one on each side of the center.=0A=0AThere are brackets on either side of center. -These brackets are held together by AN bolts.=0AInside of the brackets is a collar.-=0A=0AThe surface of the brackets that sits on the collar have some rust.=0A=0AI would like to sand off the rust and paint the inside of these brackets. -Problem is the bolt s prevent me from moving the brackets very far apart.=0A=0AI've never had o ne apart before.=0A=0ACan I remove these bolts? -=0A ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:59:32 AM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Nose gear torque tube. From: Bob Steward They are shear bolts, and the holes are reamed to a drive fit. If you remove them (which you may need a big hammer to drive them out), it may leave the holes oversized. I don't think they are considered field serviceable. The only ones I've taken apart are ones that are going in for repair. --Bob Gary Vogt wrote: >Bob, > >Mine has two NAS bolts near the inboard attaching brackets. Can I remove those bolts? > >Gary > > >________________________________ > From: Bob Steward >To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com >Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 11:21 AM >Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Nose gear torque tube. > > >I have some better ones, but will have to keep digging for them. > >http://mira.sbw.org/photos/20050909/P9090219/ > >If yours has the shear bolts at the inboard ends, you can'=========== ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:15:31 PM PST US Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Nose gear torque tube bolts From: Bob Steward The NAS shear bolts are not field serviceable, in my opinion. Not sure how you'd get to them while the torque tube is in place. After taking the assembly out, one would need either a press or a hammer to push them out, and the holes may be damaged in the process. There may be data on oversize bolts, but I don't have access to it. Perhaps Garner Rice, or Frank Johnston's son-in-law, now that Frank and Patricia have both died, may have that data. I'd be very wary of any rust on such a highly stressed part. --Bob Gary Vogt wrote: >OK, let's try again. > >I removed the nose gear torque tube from 28747. >I stripped all of the paint. >Under the paint in a few places is rust. >One place is at a joint . . I'll investigate that today. > >On the inboard are two bolts, one on each side of the center. > >There are brackets on either side of center. These brackets are held together by AN bolts. >Inside of the brackets is a collar. > >The surface of the brackets that sits on the collar have some rust. > >I would like to sand off the rust and paint the inside of these brackets. Problem is the bolts prevent me from moving the brackets very far apart. > >I've never had one apart before. > >Can I remove these bolts? ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:31:57 PM PST US From: Gary Vogt Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Nose gear torque tube bolts Bummer. -I'll have to do the best I can.=0A=0A=0A________________________ ________=0A From: Bob Steward =0ATo: teamgrumman-li st@matronics.com =0ASent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 12:14 PM=0ASubject: TeamGrum man-List: Re: Nose gear torque tube bolts=0A =0A--> TeamGrumman-List messag e posted by: Bob Steward =0A=0AThe NAS shear bolts are not field serviceable, in my opinion. Not sure how you'd get to them wh ile the torque tube is in place.- After taking the assembly out, one woul d need either a press or a hammer to push them out, and the holes may be da maged in the process.=0AThere may be data on oversize bolts, but I don't ha ve access to it.- Perhaps Garner Rice, or Frank Johnston's son-in-law, no w that Frank and Patricia have both died, may have that data.=0AI'd be very wary of any rust on such a highly stressed part.=0A--Bob=0A=0A=0AGary Vogt wrote:=0A=0A>OK, let's try again.=0A>=0A>I removed the nose gear torque tube from 28747. -=0A>I stripped all of the paint. =0A>Under the paint in a few places is rust. -=0A>One place is at a joint . . -I'll investigate that today.=0A>=0A>On the inboard are two bolts, o ne on each side of the center.=0A>=0A>There are brackets on either side of center. -These brackets are held together by AN bolts.=0A>Inside of the b rackets is a collar.-=0A>=0A>The surface of the brackets that sits on the collar have some rust.=0A>=0A>I would like to sand off the rust and paint the inside of these brackets. -Problem is the bolts prevent me from movin g the brackets very far apart.=0A>=0A>I've never had one apart before.=0A> -======================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, List ====== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message teamgrumman-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/TeamGrumman-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/teamgrumman-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/teamgrumman-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.