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Tue 06/26/12


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     1. 01:18 AM - Re: Spar diameter (Gary Vogt)
     2. 06:12 AM - Re: Improve Fit of Upper Cowl (bkspero)
     3. 10:36 AM - Re: Re: Improve Fit of Upper Cowl (Gary Vogt)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:18:59 AM PST US
    From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Spar diameter
    yep. -No hurry.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: FLYaDIV E <flyadive@gmail.com>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Monday , June 25, 2012 3:33 AM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Spar diameter=0A =0A=0AGary:=0A=0AThe wing is at one location while the flap and aerilon are at the AP. -I will be going to the AP in a day or so. -Can you wait? =0A=0ABarry=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Gary Vogt <teamgru mman@yahoo.com> wrote:=0A=0ABarry, or ?=0A>-=0A>If you have a wing, I nee d:=0A>- -1. -the distance from the center of the spar to the leading edge of the airfoil. -=0A>- -2. -the distance from the center of th e spar to the aft edge of the aft spar (so, the end of the airfoil.) -Tha t would give the overall length plus the spar location. -=0A>- -3. -overall height at the widest part of the airfoil=0A>- -4. -approxi mate distance from the highest point to the center of the spar=0A>- -5. -vertical location of the spar with respect to the bottom of the spar. =0A>=0A>=0A>If you have a flap, I need:=0A>- -1. -overall height and length of the flap.=0A>- -2. -the distance from the center of the tor que tube to the leading edge.=0A>=0A>=0A>If you have an aileron, I need:- =0A>- -1. -overall height and length of the aileron.=0A>- -2. - the distance from the center of the torque tube to the leading edge.=0A>- -3. -approximate location of the beveled trailing edge and its height and width.=0A>=0A>=0A>Thanks in advance.=0A>Gary=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>___ _____________________________=0A> From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com>=0A>To : teamgrumman-list@matronics.com =0A>Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 6:30 PM=0A >Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Spar diameter=0A> =0A>=0A>Gary:=0A>=0A>=0A> I can give you that number tomorrow... -From an AA5.=0A>=0A>=0A>Barry=0A> =0A>=0A>On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:=0A>=0A>What the diameter of the spar is at the wing attach point?=0A >>st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigato r?TeamGrumman-List=0Atp://forums.matronics.com=0A_blank">http://www.matroni ==


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    Time: 06:12:44 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Improve Fit of Upper Cowl
    From: "bkspero" <bkspero@gmail.com>
    Now you're getting my hopes up, again.... Gary had convinced me that either I be happy with what I have, or buy a Jaguar cowl. So I decided to be happy. Seriously, I see what you mean. I had gotten a private email from another person before I posted the photos and he speculated on this cause. I think his words included something like "...instead of using a thin kerf sawblade, some mechanics use a chainsaw and remove way to much material. Then when they reassemble it gaps show up in the cowl corners...he was exaggerating but makes the point". I'll ask my mechanic what it would take to adjust the screws to insert a ca. 1/16" gap. That could be enough to correct the fit in the front, as it is only a problem on one side and by only a small amount. He would need, I think, to adjust the position of the upper cowl about 1/8"-1/4" towards to passenger side to even out the fit, though. Don't know if that is possible. I presume that a 1/16" gap wouldn't cause any functional issues. As you can see, the plane is serviceable, but not a showpiece. So I don't think I'll even see that small a space in the split. Still leaves the larger gaps in the back. Guess I will continue to live with those. Thanks for the input. Barry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=376630#376630


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    Time: 10:36:22 AM PST US
    From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Improve Fit of Upper Cowl
    The back of the cowling: -A lot of cowlings don't fit well in the back; m ostly from damaged doublers on the cowling. -Spot welds break, the double r cracks, you name it. -You can buy another upper cowling, have it instal led, strip it, alumi-prep it, prime it and paint it the base color, install it, line up the stripes, remove it and paint the stripes. -Odds are it w on't match the rest of the plane . . . but, it MIGHT fit better.=0A=0AThe f ront of the cowling and the nose bowl: -If you just do the nose bowl, you might want to consider where the stripes are. -If you open up the gap on the cowling, the stripes won't line up. -Then you'll have to get the nos e bowl repainted. -You could get another nose bowl, you could get a LoPre sti nose bowl (RJ, here's your chance, jump in at any time). -Regardless of which way choose, some painting is involved.=0A=0AYou're using a dollar to chase a penny.=0A=0AOn-the-other-hand, it is your dollar. -And, puttin g money back into circulation does help the economy. -So, who knows, the dollar you spend could help your mechanic buy groceries. -That, in turn, helps the kid bagging groceries. -It helps the teller who rings it up. -It helps the store owner. -It helps the truck driver bringing grocerie s to the market. -It helps the toll both operators who check the weight o f the trucks. -It helps the petroleum industry for the fuel used by the t ruck. -It helps the truck driver. -It helps everyone involved with the truck. -It helps the grower in California who owns the orchard. -It hel ps the Mexican picking the fruit. -He helps his family in Mexico. -They produce drugs that end up on the streets of New Jersey. -Which in turn, . . . .-=0A=0AYou could single handedly change many lives. -Or, you cou ld just fly your plane.=0A=0AThank you, everyone, for letting me express my thought process. -It was really a lot of fun. -=0A=0A=0A______________ __________________=0A From: bkspero <bkspero@gmail.com>=0ATo: teamgrumman-l ist@matronics.com =0ASent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 6:12 AM=0ASubject: TeamGr umman-List: Re: Improve Fit of Upper Cowl=0A =0A--> TeamGrumman-List messag e posted by: "bkspero" <bkspero@gmail.com>=0A=0ANow you're getting my hopes up, again....- Gary had convinced me that either I be happy with what I have, or buy a Jaguar cowl.- So I decided to be happy.=0A=0ASeriously, I see what you mean.- I had gotten a private email from another person befo re I posted the photos and he speculated on this cause.- I think his word s included something like "...instead of using a thin kerf sawblade, some m echanics use a chainsaw and remove way to much material.- Then when they reassemble it gaps show up in the cowl corners...he was exaggerating but ma kes the point".- I'll ask my mechanic what it would take to adjust the sc rews to insert a ca. 1/16" gap.- That could be enough to correct the fit in the front, as it is only a problem on one side and by only a small amoun t.- He would need, I think, to adjust the position of the upper cowl abou t 1/8"-1/4" towards to passenger side to even out the fit, though.- Don't know if that is possible.- I presume that a 1/16" gap wouldn't cause any functional issues.- As you can see, the plane is serviceable, but not a showpiece.- So I don't think I'll even see that small a space in the split.=0A=0AStill leaves the larger gaps in the back.- Guess I wi ll continue to live with those.=0A=0AThanks for the input.=0A=0ABarry=0A=0A =0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/view ===========




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