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1. 06:05 AM - Re: AG5B Yokes (Cliff Hanson)
2. 06:40 AM - Re: AG5B Yokes (cloudvalley@comcast.net)
3. 11:06 AM - Re: AG5B Yokes (Gary Vogt)
4. 11:15 AM - Re: AG5B Yokes (Gary Vogt)
5. 11:38 AM - leaking access cover (Gary Vogt)
6. 12:04 PM - Nose Gear Wheel Fairing Kit (3 pics) (Gary Vogt)
7. 12:05 PM - Fw: Nose Gear Wheel Fairing Kit (2 pics) (Gary Vogt)
8. 02:38 PM - Re: leaking access cover (Bruce Smith)
9. 02:56 PM - Re: AG5B Yokes (cloudvalley@comcast.net)
10. 04:21 PM - Re: leaking access cover (Bob Hodo)
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> I have a complete set of AG5B yokes, brackets, and nylon bushings. I
> thought the new owner of Travis' plane wanted them for conversion. I
> think Garner told Cliff they wouldn't work. Garner doesn't know that
> 28840 has a flat panel just like an AG5B and that they'd work just fine.
> So, if you want a set of AG5B yokes, I'll sell them. I had the brackets
> powder coated in black wrinkle. $300 and they are yours. Convert your
> plane to the AG5B yokes.
Gary, I'm on a motorcycle trip out in CO, etc now and haven't contacted
Brian and Ruth, but I'm sure they will want the yokes and for you to have
them powdercoated and ready to install. I'll call them and have them call
you.
Cliff
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Hi Gary,
=C2-We found out that the shafts were only 17 inches, not 21.5 inches. Th
e cheapest route for us would be replacing the shafts and yokes back to the
79 style. Thanks anyway, Gary.
Brian and Ruth
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Vogt" <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 10:36:38 AM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: AG5B Yokes
I have a complete set of AG5B yokes, brackets, and nylon bushings. =C2-I
thought the new owner of Travis' plane wanted them for conversion. =C2-I
think Garner told Cliff they wouldn't work. =C2-Garner doesn't know that
28840 has a flat panel just like an AG5B and that they'd work just fine.
=C2-So, if you want a set of AG5B yokes, I'll sell them. =C2-I had the
brackets powder coated in black wrinkle. =C2-$300 and they are yours. =C2
-Convert your plane to the AG5B yokes.
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I got a call from Brian. -They are having someone change to the original
yokes. -And, it isn't easy.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A F
rom: Cliff Hanson <flyv35b@minetfiber.com>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics
.com =0ASent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 6:04 AM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-L
" <flyv35b@minetfiber.com>=0A=0A> I have a complete set of AG5B yokes, brac
kets, and nylon bushings. -I=0A> thought the new owner of Travis' plane w
anted them for conversion. -I=0A> think Garner told Cliff they wouldn't w
ork. -Garner doesn't know that=0A> 28840 has a flat panel just like an AG
5B and that they'd work just fine.=0A> -So, if you want a set of AG5B yok
es, I'll sell them. -I had the brackets=0A> powder coated in black wrinkl
e. -$300 and they are yours. -Convert your=0A> plane to the AG5B yokes.
=0A=0AGary, I'm on a motorcycle trip out in CO, etc now and haven't contact
ed=0ABrian and Ruth, but I'm sure they will want the yokes and for you to h
ave=0Athem powdercoated and ready to install.- I'll call them and have th
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Brian and Ruth,=0A=0A=0AThat's funny, I don't remember cutting anything dow
n and redrilling. -That would be WAAAAY to difficult to get them correct.
-I tried drilling new "U"-joints and getting them correct. -Not fun.
-Maybe Travis had them cut down. -=0A=0AWhere did you get the length di
mension? -The instrument panel is in the exact same location as stock.
-With the yokes all the way forward, it needs to hit the firewall. -If
4.5 inches was cut off, I don't see how that would fit. -Who knows. -I'
ll look at the Project X plane today.=0A=0AThe easiest fix is the AG5B yoke
s. -That way, you can still have all of the functions on the yokes.-=0A
=0AGary=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: "cloudvalley@comc
ast.net" <cloudvalley@comcast.net>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com =0A
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 6:40 AM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: AG5
B Yokes=0A =0A=0AHi Gary,=0A-We found out that the shafts were only 17 in
ches, not 21.5 inches. The cheapest route for us would be replacing the sha
fts and yokes back to the 79 style. Thanks anyway, Gary.=0ABrian and Ruth
=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A =0AFrom: "Gary Vogt" <teamgrum
man@yahoo.com>=0ATo: "Teamgrumman List" <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com>=0A
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 10:36:38 AM=0ASubject: TeamGrumman-List: AG5B
Yokes=0A=0A=0AI have a complete set of AG5B yokes, brackets, and nylon bush
ings. -I thought the new owner of Travis' plane wanted them for conversio
n. -I think Garner told Cliff they wouldn't work. -Garner doesn't know
that 28840 has a flat panel just like an AG5B and that they'd work just fin
e. -So, if you want a set of AG5B yokes, I'll sell them. -I had the bra
ckets powder coated in black wrinkle. -$300 and they are yours. -Conver
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| Subject: | leaking access cover |
So, 5 years ago this month, I resealed both wing tanks and all access cover
s on this guys Tiger. -Apparently the local guy at the Columbia, CA airpo
rt didn't have resealing experience. -The reseal and annual took 6 months
. -There was a LOT of stuff wrong. -Most notable was the spinner with 1
/4 inch runout. -The rear backing plate was that far off.=0A=0ASo, I get
a call last week and the owner wants me to reseal the access covers. -I d
on't know about you, I don't normally inspect inside the fuel tank at annua
l. -For some reason, ALL of the access covers had been off since I reseal
ed them 5 years ago.=0A=0AHere is a shot of one access cover that leaked so
bad it wouldn't hold fuel. -The owner said the mechanic he used had trie
d three times to seal it.
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| Subject: | Nose Gear Wheel Fairing Kit (3 pics) |
I have ALMOST the complete set-up for a nose gear. -The only things missi
ng are the doublers that go inside the wheel pant. -And, you wouldn't wan
t them anyway. -Someone had installed them with #10 screws. -=0A=0ANote
: -The axle shaft looks like someone hit it with a ball peen hammer is a
few spots. -Not sure why. -Otherwise, it rolls on a piece of glass with
out bouncing. -=0A- - - - - -The bearings are new (not in a b
ox). -No races. -=0A- - - - - -The dust seals and rings are
new. -=0A- - - - - -The wheel fairing was repaired (where th
e screws were) with large weave cloth. -It isn't real pretty, but it is e
ven. -No excess resin. -=0A=0AI'll sell the whole kit for $300 or any r
easonable offer.
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| Subject: | Fw: Nose Gear Wheel Fairing Kit (2 pics) |
=0A=0A=0A----- Forwarded Message -----=0AFrom: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo
.com>=0ATo: Teamgrumman List <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com> =0ASent: Wedn
esday, July 18, 2012 12:02 PM=0ASubject: Nose Gear Wheel Fairing Kit (3 pic
s)=0A =0A=0AI have ALMOST the complete set-up for a nose gear. -The only
things missing are the doublers that go inside the wheel pant. -And, you
wouldn't want them anyway. -Someone had installed them with #10 screws.
-=0A=0ANote: -The axle shaft looks like someone hit it with a ball peen
hammer is a few spots. -Not sure why. -Otherwise, it rolls on a piece
of glass without bouncing. -=0A- - - - - -The bearings are ne
w (not in a box). -No races. -=0A- - - - - -The dust seals
and rings are new. -=0A- - - - - -The wheel fairing was repai
red (where the screws were) with large weave cloth. -It isn't real pretty
, but it is even. -No excess resin. -=0A=0AI'll sell the whole kit for
$300 or any reasonable offer.
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| Subject: | Re: leaking access cover |
Gary,
Bottom photo, at about the 9:30 position. Is that an errant screw hole or a glob
of sealant?
Bruce
On Jul 18, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
> So, 5 years ago this month, I resealed both wing tanks and all access covers
on this guys Tiger. Apparently the local guy at the Columbia, CA airport didn't
have resealing experience. The reseal and annual took 6 months. There was
a LOT of stuff wrong. Most notable was the spinner with 1/4 inch runout. The
rear backing plate was that far off.
>
> So, I get a call last week and the owner wants me to reseal the access covers.
I don't know about you, I don't normally inspect inside the fuel tank at annual.
For some reason, ALL of the access covers had been off since I resealed
them 5 years ago.
>
> Here is a shot of one access cover that leaked so bad it wouldn't hold fuel.
The owner said the mechanic he used had tried three times to seal it.
> <IMG_2661.jpg><IMG_2662.jpg>
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Hi Gary,
=C2-Garner gave us the specs from the Tiger spec sheet. He may have also
measured them. The ones we have are 17 inches long =C2-now . The=C2-sha
fts in there now may have come with the yokes. We don't know.
=C2- Bought two yokes for $45 each. We can have metal =C2-plates bent a
nd fashined to hold the buttons at the field here.
=C2- Ruth wants it changed. She was flaring and the yoke hit her clipboar
d; she bounc ed once and went around. She wants the yokes changed back now
.
Thanks Gary.
Brian and Ruth
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Vogt" <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 11:15:09 AM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: AG5B Yokes
Brian and Ruth,
That's funny, I don't remember cutting anything down and redrilling. =C2-
That would be WAAAAY to difficult to get them correct. =C2-I tried drilli
ng new "U"-joints and getting them correct. =C2-Not fun. =C2-Maybe Trav
is had them cut down. =C2-
Where did you get the length dimension? =C2-The instrument panel is in th
e exact same location as stock. =C2-With the yokes all the way forward, i
t needs to hit the firewall. =C2-If 4.5 inches was cut off, I don't see h
ow that would fit. =C2-Who knows. =C2-I'll look at the Project X plane
today.
The easiest fix is the AG5B yokes. =C2-That way, you can still have all o
f the functions on the yokes.=C2-
Gary
From: "cloudvalley@comcast.net" <cloudvalley@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: AG5B Yokes
Hi Gary,
=C2-We found out that the shafts were only 17 inches, not 21.5 inches. Th
e cheapest route for us would be replacing the shafts and yokes back to the
79 style. Thanks anyway, Gary.
Brian and Ruth
From: "Gary Vogt" <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 10:36:38 AM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: AG5B Yokes
I have a complete set of AG5B yokes, brackets, and nylon bushings. =C2-I
thought the new owner of Travis' plane wanted them for conversion. =C2-I
think Garner told Cliff they wouldn't work. =C2-Garner doesn't know that
28840 has a flat panel just like an AG5B and that they'd work just fine.
=C2-So, if you want a set of AG5B yokes, I'll sell them. =C2-I had the
brackets powder coated in black wrinkle. =C2-$300 and they are yours. =C2
-Convert your plane to the AG5B yokes.
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| Subject: | Re: leaking access cover |
Shouldn't that sealant be a dark purple?=0A=0A=0A=0A_______________________
_________=0A From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>=0ATo: Teamgrumman List
<teamgrumman-list@matronics.com> =0ASent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:37 PM
=0ASubject: TeamGrumman-List: leaking access cover=0A =0A=0ASo, 5 years ago
this month, I resealed both wing tanks and all access covers on this guys
Tiger. -Apparently the local guy at the Columbia, CA airport didn't have
resealing experience. -The reseal and annual took 6 months. -There was
a LOT of stuff wrong. -Most notable was the spinner with 1/4 inch runout.
-The rear backing plate was that far off.=0A=0ASo, I get a call last wee
k and the owner wants me to reseal the access covers. -I don't know about
you, I don't normally inspect inside the fuel tank at annual. -For some
reason, ALL of the access covers had been off since I resealed them 5 years
ago.=0A=0AHere is a shot of one access cover that leaked so bad it wouldn'
t hold fuel. -The owner said the mechanic he used had tried three times t
o seal it.
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