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1. 06:34 AM - Re: NACA Submerged inlet: AG5B (flyv35b)
2. 07:59 AM - Re: NACA Submerged inlet: AG5B (discover)
3. 09:02 AM - Re: NACA Submerged inlet: AG5B (Gary Vogt)
4. 09:05 AM - Re: Re: NACA Submerged inlet: AG5B (Gary Vogt)
5. 09:06 AM - Re: Re: NACA Submerged inlet: AG5B (Gary Vogt)
6. 03:32 PM - Re: NACA Submerged inlet: AG5B (923te)
7. 03:34 PM - Re: Brake Reservoir Relocated? (discover)
8. 03:42 PM - Re: NACA Submerged inlet: AG5B (discover)
9. 07:42 PM - Re: Re: NACA Submerged inlet: AG5B (Gary Vogt)
10. 08:34 PM - Champion SB on 4 & 6 cylinder Slick Mags (discover)
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| Subject: | Re: NACA Submerged inlet: AG5B |
On 9/20/2012 7:30 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
> At all conditions, climb, dive, straight and level, left or right skid
> (yaw), the MAP registered approximately .1 inches below the pressure
> recorded from a port tapped into the static line.
I gather you are talking about the MAP with the new NACA type inlet duct
for an AG5B? But, 0.1' MP is not even detectable on a typical MP gauge.
But if this is compared to a 0.5" of 1.0" is loss with the standard
inlet and air filter it is significant.
Explain further.
Cliff
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| Subject: | Re: NACA Submerged inlet: AG5B |
Gary,
That's an incredibly good looking air intake for the AG5B. Sounds like it will
give much more flow rate and pressure than the factory intake. The factory location
is located in a high velocity slipstream and some have said it actually
create pressures lower than static.
Seeing the 2 holes aft of the NACA lip I'm guessing that the factory filter box
has been replaced? So how about some pics of what's inside the cowl?
On my AG5B I experimented with the 70's AA5B Tiger intake location versus the AG5B
intake location. I could switch from one to the other on the fly and noted
0.5 to 1" MP increase over the AG5B intake. Now I'm curious how that compares
to a port in the static line....
Looks like another good job from the Aucountry skunkworks.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383713#383713
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| Subject: | Re: NACA Submerged inlet: AG5B |
626 has two separate MAP sensors. -One is connected to the engine, the ot
her to the static system. -The original inlet lost, on average, .8 inches
of pressure over atmosphere (static). -The original was only .5 inches l
ow on takeoff, but as much as an inch low in straight and level fast cruise
. -The new inlet stays around .1 below static under all conditions. -Wo
rst condition was a really hard side slip, tail to the right: lost .2 inche
s. -Best was side slip tail to the left: 0 inches lost.=0A=0A=0A_________
_______________________=0A From: flyv35b <flyv35b@minetfiber.com>=0ATo: tea
mgrumman-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Friday, September 21, 2012 6:33 AM=0AS
ubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: NACA Submerged inlet: AG5B=0A =0A--> TeamGrum
man-List message posted by: flyv35b <flyv35b@minetfiber.com>=0A=0AOn 9/20/2
012 7:30 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:=0A> At all conditions, climb, dive, straight
and level, left or right skid=0A> (yaw), the MAP registered approximately .
1 inches below the pressure=0A> recorded from a port tapped into the static
line.=0A=0AI gather you are talking about the MAP with the new NACA type i
nlet duct for an AG5B?- But, 0.1' MP is not even detectable on a typical
MP gauge.- But if this is compared to a 0.5" of 1.0" is loss with the sta
ndard inlet and air filter it is significant.=0A=0AExplain further.=0A=0ACl
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| Subject: | Re: NACA Submerged inlet: AG5B |
that's the prototype. -The finished one is closed on the inside with the
exception of a round hole for the filter.=0A=0A=0A_________________________
_______=0A From: discover <923te@att.net>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.
com =0ASent: Friday, September 21, 2012 7:58 AM=0ASubject: TeamGrumman-List
: Re: NACA Submerged inlet: AG5B=0A =0A--> TeamGrumman-List message posted
by: "discover" <923te@att.net>=0A=0AGary,=0AThat's an incredibly good looki
ng air intake for the AG5B. Sounds like it will give much more flow rate an
d pressure than the factory intake. The factory location is located in a hi
gh velocity slipstream and some have said it actually create pressures lowe
r than static.=0A=0ASeeing the 2- holes aft of the NACA lip I'm guessing
that the factory filter box has been replaced? So how about some pics of wh
at's inside the cowl?=0A=0AOn my AG5B I experimented with the 70's AA5B Tig
er intake location versus the AG5B intake location. I could switch from one
to the other on the fly and noted 0.5 to 1" MP increase over the AG5B inta
ke. Now I'm curious how that compares to a port in the static line....=0A
=0ALooks like another good job from the Aucountry skunkworks.=0A=0A=0A=0A
=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, L
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| Subject: | Re: NACA Submerged inlet: AG5B |
Ned, did you ever get the fairing I sent?=0A=0A=0A_________________________
_______=0A From: discover <923te@att.net>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.
com =0ASent: Friday, September 21, 2012 7:58 AM=0ASubject: TeamGrumman-List
: Re: NACA Submerged inlet: AG5B=0A =0A--> TeamGrumman-List message posted
by: "discover" <923te@att.net>=0A=0AGary,=0AThat's an incredibly good looki
ng air intake for the AG5B. Sounds like it will give much more flow rate an
d pressure than the factory intake. The factory location is located in a hi
gh velocity slipstream and some have said it actually create pressures lowe
r than static.=0A=0ASeeing the 2- holes aft of the NACA lip I'm guessing
that the factory filter box has been replaced? So how about some pics of wh
at's inside the cowl?=0A=0AOn my AG5B I experimented with the 70's AA5B Tig
er intake location versus the AG5B intake location. I could switch from one
to the other on the fly and noted 0.5 to 1" MP increase over the AG5B inta
ke. Now I'm curious how that compares to a port in the static line....=0A
=0ALooks like another good job from the Aucountry skunkworks.=0A=0A=0A=0A
=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, L
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| Subject: | Re: NACA Submerged inlet: AG5B |
>From Gary:
Ned, did you ever get the fairing I sent?
>From Ned:
Yes just discovered it. Glad you ask as it was put away in a closet.....
I'm looking forward to trying it out...I'll let you know
What happened to this? It looks like it would make more MP than the
NACA...
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| Subject: | Re: Brake Reservoir Relocated? |
Bob,
Did they have a 337?
Should I find it on Bondline?
ned
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| Subject: | Re: NACA Submerged inlet: AG5B |
Try again on the picture
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| Subject: | Re: NACA Submerged inlet: AG5B |
It was way too complicated. -The MAP results were the same. -The bigges
t problem with the inlet below is that you couldn't get to the plugs. -Wi
thout a Power FLow, there had to be a big notch in to to clear #2 exhaust.
-The front baffle had to be hacked up. -Way to many things did not fit
Occam's Razor. --=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: 923
te <923te@att.net>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Friday, Se
ptember 21, 2012 3:31 PM=0ASubject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: NACA Submerged in
let: AG5B=0A =0A=0A =0AFrom Gary:=0ANed, did you ever get the fairing I sen
t? =0A=0AFrom Ned:=0AYes just discovered it. Glad you ask as it was =0Aput
away in a closet.....=0AI'm looking forward to trying it out...I'll =0Alet
you know=0A-=0A-=0AWhat happened to this? It looks like it would =0Amak
e more MP than the NACA...
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| Subject: | Champion SB on 4 & 6 cylinder Slick Mags |
https://www.championaerospacepubs.com/docs/F-1100-SB1-12.pdf
You guys gotten this one yet?
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