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Sat 09/22/12


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     1. 09:13 PM - Re: Melted wire (Gary L Vogt)
     2. 09:35 PM - Re: Melted wire (Bob Steward)
     3. 09:42 PM - Re: Melted wire (Frank Sundram)
     4. 09:49 PM - Re: Melted wire (Bob Steward)
     5. 09:50 PM - Re: Melted wire (Bob Steward)
 
 
 


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    Time: 09:13:03 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Melted wire
    From: Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>
    No ones ever heard of this? Gary Sent from my iPad On Sep 20, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote: > One of the Tigers I maintain started having that old wire burning smell. N ot all the time. Off and on. Smoke once. Never repeatable. > > A mechanic outside Oshkosh identified 51PA3 as having a 'rough, bubbly sur face.' This wire was under the panel toward the middle in a bundle of wires . > > Yesterday, I found the same thing without the knowledge of the previous fi nd. 51PA3 is a ground wire. No circuit breaker or fuse. > > I followed the wire to the engine side and noticed several melted looking a reas. > > Figuring the wire needed to be replaced anyway, I cut into it and put an a mmeter in series. The battery relay that is energized by adding ground the t he middle terminal is at the end of the wire. > This wire drew 0.065 to 0.70 amps. The really odd thing was that it got r eally hot while I was holding it. > > I replaced it with No.18 wire. The removed wire had a LOT of places on th e wire where the shielding had either been melted or worn away; I couldn't t ell why the shielding was missing. The wire in those areas was very corrode d. > > Anyone else ever seen anything like that? > > From: Bob Steward <n76lima@mindspring.com> > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 5:49 PM > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Brake Reservoir Relocated? > m> > > I worked on a Traveler that had been modified like that. > Worked fine, but could have been better engineered. > --Bob St= - The TeamGrumman-List Email Forum -<= Same great c ontent also &nbs============== ==== > > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 09:35:49 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Melted wire
    From: Bob Steward <n76lima@mindspring.com>
    You're saying that this is a shielded GROUND wire? Haven't had a chance to look at the manual schematics to see what circuit 51PA3 is part of. Can't imagine the need for a shielded ground (except the P-leads). --Bob Steward


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    Time: 09:42:16 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Melted wire
    From: Frank Sundram <radiohound@AOL.COM>
    Go to sleep, bob, day of rest and all. Restful Woofs from the boys Frank 850-819-1666 On Sep 22, 2012, at 11:35 PM, Bob Steward <n76lima@mindspring.com> wrote: > > You're saying that this is a shielded GROUND wire? > Haven't had a chance to look at the manual schematics to see what circuit 51PA3 is part of. > Can't imagine the need for a shielded ground (except the P-leads). > --Bob Steward > > > > >


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    Time: 09:49:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Melted wire
    From: Bob Steward <n76lima@mindspring.com>
    I found 51PA4 wire code for the ground from the battery side of the Master Switch to the airframe ground on the 70's Tigers and Cheetahs. This is a ~6" long segment of plain, unshielded wire with a 1/4" female spade terminal at the Master and a #6 ring terminal on the other end that grounds to the honeycomb with a #4 sheet metal screw. The normal convention is that each segment in a circuit has the next # as the last digit. So there SHOULD be 3 previous segments in this circuit. There are not. What does your 51PA3 connect to? --Bob Steward


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    Time: 09:50:47 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Melted wire
    From: Bob Steward <n76lima@mindspring.com>
    Gary has me stirred up over this. N200FW canopy plastic looks very nice, if I do say so myself! --Bob Frank Sundram <radiohound@AOL.COM> wrote: > >Go to sleep, bob, day of rest and all. > >Restful Woofs from the boys > >Frank >850-819-1666 > >On Sep 22, 2012, at 11:35 PM, Bob Steward <n76lima@mindspring.com> wrote: > >> >> You're saying that this is a shielded GROUND wire? >> Haven't had a chance to look at the manual schematics to see what circuit 51PA3 is part of. >> Can't imagine the need for a shielded ground (except the P-leads). >> --Bob Steward >> >> >> >> >> > >




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