---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 10/05/12: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:04 AM - Re: High CHTs (BILL9725@AOL.COM) 2. 10:34 AM - Re: High CHTs (Gary Vogt) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:04:42 AM PST US From: BILL9725@AOL.COM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: High CHTs HI Gary Yes, did get the fairing installed and have flown it over 4 hours the past weekend. Early observations, and I have some readings I will send in a couple of days, EGT remains nearly the same, less than 50 degrees less, but CHT went down dramatically. Hottest cylinders down 10-20 degrees and the be st news is this was leaned even further than I had ever done in very hot weather, again last weekend. Early fuel numbers at: 9,500 ft, 2650 rpm, old best leaning possible 10.8 gallons, now best lean again and 9.9 gallons per hour and even a slight speed advantage, old best speed at that altitude and temp, 58 degrees outside both before and after mod, 138 knots, new 140 knots. Different days of course but was a two way run and these are GPS speeds, not indicated. With the weather changing this next week will be interesting to see how that will affect temps. So will get you the actual readings as soon as I can and I know you have a winner, certainly well worth having it stc`d and I consider it one of the best moods you could have considering how simple it really is. Bill Stigile In a message dated 10/4/2012 9:31:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, teamgrumman@yahoo.com writes: Bill, Did you get a chance to install the fairing? Gary Sent from my iPad On Sep 19, 2012, at 8:41 AM, _BILL9725@AOL.COM_ (mailto:BILL9725@AOL.COM) wrote: Hi Gary I am located in Lodi 1O3, Tiger is a 1976 model slowly getting renovated. Recently put your face panels on and greatly improved look, best investment so far. Thanks Bill Stigile 209-712-6100 In a message dated 9/18/2012 11:11:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, _teamgrumman@yahoo.com_ (mailto:teamgrumman@yahoo.com) writes: Bill, Where are located? Gary Sent from my iPad On Sep 18, 2012, at 8:38 AM, _BILL9725@AOL.COM_ (mailto:BILL9725@AOL.COM) wrote: Hi Gary Another Tiger owner very interested in testing your fairing. My Tiger has 200 hrs on a Millenum motor, and JPI 4 probe with download available. Was thinking of eventually getting a Jaguar before the end of the year if my ship comes in, death in family, but would love to test the fairing even so and especially if things don`t allow a new Jaguar by year end. #4 runs hot, usually 430+ on most days with proper leaning, #3 right behind at 420 usually. Summer or winter, and any altitude, could be the manual leaner, I know. Thanks Bill Tiger N1540R In a message dated 9/17/2012 12:42:29 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, _teamgrumman@yahoo.com_ (mailto:teamgrumman@yahoo.com) writes: I need someone who has really high CHTs (and is too cheap to buy a JagCowl . . . grin) to try one of my special fairings. You must have 4-cylinder CHT/EGT (and I mean a real one, not some Westach, Falcon, Micro or something else that has no relevance to the real world) You need to have good historical data for a before and after comparison. You'll need to remove your nose gear strut to get the boot off. The fairing screws in place. 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Pacific Day light Time, =0Ateamgrumman@yahoo.com writes:=0ABill,=0A>=0A>=0A>Did you get a chance to install the fairing?=0A>=0A>=0A>GarySent from my iPad=0A>=0A>O n Sep 19, 2012, at 8:41 AM, BILL9725@AOL.COM wrote:=0A>=0A>=0A>Hi Gary =0A> >-=0A>>I am located in Lodi 1O3, Tiger is a 1976 model slowly getting re novated.- Recently put your face panels on and greatly improved look, be st investment so far.- =0A>>-=0A>>Thanks =0A>>Bill Stigile =0A>>209-712 -6100=0A>>-=0A>>In a message dated 9/18/2012 11:11:37 P.M. Pacific Daylig ht Time, teamgrumman@yahoo.com writes:=0A>>Bill, Where are located?=0A>>> =0A>>>=0A>>>GarySent from my iPad=0A>>>=0A>>>On Sep 18, 2012, at 8:38 AM, B ILL9725@AOL.COM wrote:=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>Hi Gary =0A>>>>-=0A>>>>Another Ti ger owner very interested in testing your fairing.- My Tiger has 200 hrs on a Millenum motor, and JPI 4 probe with download available.- Was thin king of eventually getting a Jaguar before the end of the year if my ship comes in, death in family, but would love to test the fairing even so and especially if things don`t allow a new Jaguar by year end.- #4 runs hot, usually 430+ on most days with proper leaning, #3 right behind at 420 usu ally.- Summer or winter, and any altitude, could be the manual leaner, I know.- =0A>>>>-=0A>>>>Thanks =0A>>>>-=0A>>>>Bill =0A>>>>Tiger N1540R =0A>>>>-=0A>>>>-=0A>>>>In a message dated 9/17/2012 12:42:29 P.M. Paci fic Daylight Time, teamgrumman@yahoo.com writes:=0A>>>>I need someone who h as really high CHTs (and is too cheap to buy a JagCowl . . . grin) to try one of my special fairings. -=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>You must have 4-cyl inder CHT/EGT (and I mean a real one, not some Westach, Falcon, Micro or s omething else that has no relevance to the real world)=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A> >>>>You need to have good historical data for a before and after comparis on.=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>You'll need to remove your nose gear strut to g et the boot off. -The fairing screws in place. -This should make R&R o f the cowling easier too.=0A>>>>>st href="http://www.matronics.com/Navig ator?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List s.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com p://www.matronics.com/contrib ution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution =0A>>>>href="http://www.matr onics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Te amGrumman-List href="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronic s.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.c om/contribution =0A>>>st href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGru mman-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List s.matronics. com/">http://forums.matronics.com p://www.matronics.com/contribution">http: //www.matronics.com/contribution =0A>>href="http://www.matronics.com/Navi gator?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List =0Ahref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com=0Ahref ="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contrib ution =0A>st href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List">h ttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List=0As.matronics.com/">http ://forums.matronics.com=0Ap://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.ma = ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message teamgrumman-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/TeamGrumman-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/teamgrumman-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/teamgrumman-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.