---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 11/21/12: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:13 AM - Some Nice Comments... (Matt Dralle) 1. 12:53 AM - =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFRlYW1HcnVtbWFuLUxpc3Q6IFRoaXMgaXMgZm9yIHlvdSBOZWQ=? (=?utf-8?B?bjJfbmFyY29zaXNAeWFob28uY29t?=) 2. 04:25 AM - Re: Re: This is for you Ned (FLYaDIVE) 3. 06:28 AM - Re: Re: This is for you Ned (923te@att.net) 4. 09:17 AM - Re: Horizontal Stab crack repair (923te@att.net) 5. 10:17 AM - Re: Re: Horizontal Stab crack repair (Hosler, John) 6. 10:52 AM - Re: Horizontal Stab crack repair (Bob Steward) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:13:25 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Some Nice Comments... Dear Listers, I've been getting some very nice comments from Listers along with their List Support Contributions. I've shared a number of them below. Please read them over and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation of these services. There are lots of sweet gifts available this year, so please browse the nice selection and pickup something fun with your qualifying Contribution! You may use a credit card or your PayPal account here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or feel free to send a personal check to: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator -------------------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists -------------------- I have been flying my Pietenpol for a month now and am enjoying the fruits of ten hard years of work. I seriously doubt it would ever have been finished but for the help, encouragement and friendships I've received and made through the Pietenpol list. Douwe B Outstanding service to the flying community. George A Matt, I look forward to support each others projects, Glenn B Great list!!! Thanks for all your efforts! Roger C Thank you for keeping up the lists. Without it i would never have completed my aircraft. Stan S Keep up the good work my friend. I don't think I could ever finish my Pietenpol Air Camper without the help I get from this List. Tom S Thank you for keeping these list alive. Lee V The List is invaluable!! Svein J Thanks for continuing to provide the list service! Earl S You have a really GREAT service. Thankyou so much I've been on for nearly 30 years and I still check-in every morning. John B I rely fully on the lists which govern my every decision. The flexibility provides the security I seek. Fergus K My RV 7 Finally flies... 7 years of Matronics.com certainly helped. Martin H Great service here, thanks! I am just getting back to a project I dropped for a few years, great to see your site and all the folks again! James C Thanks for the great site. Robert U The Rotax list is good and the AeroElectric list outstanding! Jay H Thank you for a great resource! Jack T Thanks for your great record of outstanding service to the homebuilding community! Larry W This service is invaluable. Michael W You're doing a great job Matt. Robert D Thanks for all your work, its a great asset to all. John F Thank you for your time & effort Matt! Ted W Matt, been a follower since 2005 on the -10 list, now starting an -8. Keep up the great work! John M Still my favorite place to hang out. William W I'm not a Piet builder, but this is the most informative and congenial list I've ever run across. Please forgive my lurking-I learn a LOT here! Ken M Many thanks for keeping this alive, keep pushing! Adrian C Thanks! Please keep r going! Rich Z Many thanks for your hard work. Robert C Thanks for the Lists! I probably need to subscribe to a few more... John M Been a quick 14 years. Think I subscribed to the Kolb List in 1998, when I got my first computer. Thanks for keeping everything running smoothly for all these years. John H Great resource - thank you. David M I don't post very much, but get the postings, a lot of really practical info. John N Great job Matt, thanks for all you do. Roger M Thanks for ANOTHER great year, Matt! True grassroots experimental aviation has been pushed aside in many ways. But the List represents the evolution of this great tradition of home-building. One man, the plans, the tools, and the List - that's all you need to build the dream! Robert B This message board is a real help to my project and creating friendships. John S Many thanks for your continuing excellent work. Mike G Thank you for your work Matt. Your lists have helped me a great deal during the construction of my plane. Hal B Nice List Van E These lists are priceless for builders. Ronald C Thanks for keeping me in touch with the Pulsar community. Otto S Thanks for keeping up this great warbird sight!! Yak Ron Thanks for providing all the lists for so many years. H H Thanks for all that you do. Your dedication is much appreciated! Warren H Best service on the internet! Owen B I have learned so much from the "list". Nick C Great Service You Are Providing! Giffen M Thanks so much for maintaining these great resources. Dave S I no longer fly due to age and health problems, but I still enjoy the reading from other pilots. Dallas S This is a wonderful site. Robert B Useful service over the last year - thanks. 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But, NO. You are not Chopped liver... I am. Barry "Chop'd Liver" WOW! A McD's is $3.25... Shows you how long it has been since I ate a hamburger at McD's. NJ MoGas - $3.38 this week. AvGas - $5.47 to $5.78 <<<---- This is totally wrong, since we have the Exxon cracking plant right here in Linden, NJ. Gee higher prices and FREE Pollution. How can you beat that? And I must live in the 1st cheapest State... After all we have the Highest Auto Insurance costs. Highest HIDDEN taxes (fees) and the Most corrupt politicians out side and inside of Wash DC. AND - AND None of the TAX money gets spent on the populous. Oh, wait, yes it does... We also have the EASIEST welfare system to collect from. Our roads suck and the drivers are even worse. Potholes anyone! On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 3:53 AM, n2_narcosis@yahoo.com < n2_narcosis@yahoo.com> wrote: > WHAT AM I, chopped liver? It's for me too! I love living in the 2nd > cheapest city. Fits a Grumman owner perfectly. > > Brock > > From my HTC Sensation 4G on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: "Gary Vogt" > To: "Teamgrumman List" > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: This is for you Ned > Date: Tue, Nov 20, 2012 12:05 pm > > > *2. Norman, Okla. (most affordable cities in America)* > Located just 20 miles south of Oklahoma City, Norman is the state=92s > third-largest city and home to the National Weather Center. The cost of > living is 80.9 percent of the national average. > Norman also offers near rock-bottom prices for the following: > Hamburger (McDonald's Quarter Pounder): $3.25 > Shampoo (15 oz. bottle): $0.80 > Newspaper (daily and Sunday subscription): $9.00/year > Beer (six-pack of Heineken's): $7.63 > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:28:17 AM PST US From: 923te@att.net Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: TeamGrumman-List: This is for you Ned We do have chopped liver in Norman. It comes with onions... Yes Norman even has gas for $1.40 per gallon. It's natural gas and has an octane of around 120. It work very well in my pickup. Wish my Tiger could use it. You all have a great Turkey day ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:17:51 AM PST US From: 923te@att.net Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Horizontal Stab crack repair Ken, I believe Gary Vogt has developed the best solution to this problem. I have copied this email to his Grumman discussion list Regards Ned On Nov 20, 2012, at 11:20 PM, "Ken Cox" wrote: Hi gang some bad news from my A&P doing my annual on my 77 Tiger.. The Horizontal Stabilizer Fwd Spar Support that has developed a crack. There is a crack in the LH and RH attach doublers. I am aware of discussions on this forum re its possible causes and SAIB no CE-04-34 inspections but I need to know if someone such as Fletchair has an STC (if required) available to perform the repair. Thanks and regards Ken Cox VH-SZI down under ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:17:39 AM PST US From: "Hosler, John" Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Horizontal Stab crack repair Doesn't this a warrant an AD? Seems to have safety significance. John -----Original Message----- From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of 923te@att.net Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:17 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Horizontal Stab crack repair Ken, I believe Gary Vogt has developed the best solution to this problem. I have copied this email to his Grumman discussion list Regards Ned On Nov 20, 2012, at 11:20 PM, "Ken Cox" wrote: Hi gang some bad news from my A&P doing my annual on my 77 Tiger.. The Horizontal Stabilizer Fwd Spar Support that has developed a crack. There is a crack in the LH and RH attach doublers. I am aware of discussions on this forum re its possible causes and SAIB no CE-04-34 inspections but I need to know if someone such as Fletchair has an STC (if required) available to perform the repair. Thanks and regards Ken Cox VH-SZI down under ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:52:11 AM PST US Subject: TeamGrumman-List: RE: Horizontal Stab crack repair From: Bob Steward If the TC holder doesn't ask for an AD, and no one dies as a result of said "failure", then the FAA probably won't do the paperwork. There have been no structural failures, ergo, no AD. --Bob Steward "Hosler, John" wrote: > >Doesn't this a warrant an AD? Seems to have safety significance. > >John > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of 923te@att.net >Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:17 PM >To: Ken Cox >Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Horizontal Stab crack repair > > >Ken, >I believe Gary Vogt has developed the best solution to this problem. I have copied this email to his Grumman discussion list > >Regards >Ned > >On Nov 20, 2012, at 11:20 PM, "Ken Cox" wrote: > >Hi gang some bad news from my A&P doing my annual on my 77 Tiger.. >The Horizontal Stabilizer Fwd Spar Support that has developed a crack. There is a crack in the LH and RH attach doublers. >I am aware of discussions on this forum re its possible causes and SAIB no >CE-04-34 inspections but I need to know if someone such as Fletchair has an STC (if required) available to perform the repair. >Thanks and regards >Ken Cox >VH-SZI down under > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message teamgrumman-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/TeamGrumman-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/teamgrumman-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/teamgrumman-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.