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1. 06:26 AM - AvGas being sold at MoGas Stations (FLYaDIVE)
2. 07:28 AM - A follow up to the AvGas MoGas Mix Up (FLYaDIVE)
3. 09:07 PM - Re: AvGas being sold at MoGas Stations (Gary Vogt)
4. 11:45 PM - Re: AvGas being sold at MoGas Stations (Mel Beckman)
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Subject: | AvGas being sold at MoGas Stations |
Gang:
I was just informed of an article in the NEWARK STAR LEDGER (NEWARK, NJ
NEWSPAPER), Page 21.
Gas Stations being shut down because they are selling AVIATION GAS!!!
Too bad I did not know which station were selling it... I would have loaded
up! Especially at $3.60 a Gallon. <-- High Test. Maybe it was in the
REGULAR Pumps at $3.26 a Gallon???
But, the questions have to be asked:
1 - If there is so much control over AvGas <--- So they say as to keep
prices high. Where was the control on the delivery?
2 - Was AvGAs put into uncontrolled MoGas delivery vehicles?
3 - Was MoGas put into uncontrolled AvGas delivery vehicles?
4 - Have the Controlled Delivery Vehicles now been contaminated with MoGas?
5 - OMG ! ! ! ... What will our Ever Vigilant EPA do now that LEAD is being
burned by surface vehicles? And...
6 - Who picks up the $TAB$ on the destroyed Catalytic Converters. <--- NJ
in all their wisdom has done away with automobile inspection. Except
for EMISSIONS TESTING. So, if your car fails and you don't even know you
had a load of AvGas who pays for the repairs??? AND even if you do know...
WHO PAYS!
No coffee as yet so these are the only questions I can come up with at this
time.
Maybe you have a few to ask?
Barry
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Subject: | A follow up to the AvGas MoGas Mix Up |
Six NJ Gas Stations Mistakenly Fed
100LL<http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/100LL_delivered_new_jersey_gas_stations_lead_fuel_207840-1.html>
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(Dec 12 2012)
The state of New Jersey confirmed Wednesday that six automotive gas
stations received and sold leaded aviation fuel to drivers before the
mistake was discovered and the sales were shut down. The fuel was delivered
by eight tankers between Dec. 5 and Dec. 7 to six gas stations owned by the
same company. In a statement from the Division of Consumer Affairs, the
fuel was not directly identified as 100LL. The agency said the fuel was
"rated at 104.7 octane compared to 93 octane for super unleaded," and
contained "a small amount of lead." It was mistakenly sold to motorists as
super unleaded. According to the agency, it "should not cause damage to
vehicles engines." Click through for a link to the release from Consumer
Affairs and a list of affected stations.
This is from the AV WEB site:
http://www.avweb.com/cgi-bin/texis/scripts/avweb-search/search.html?query=aviation+gas&x=43&y=11
They think it will not affect the engine... The engine NO! But
the Catalytic Converter and maybe the O2 Sensor and the MAP Sensor?
Barry
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Subject: | Re: AvGas being sold at MoGas Stations |
I doubt it. -That would be pretty impossible to screw up.=0A=0A=0A=0A____
____________________________=0A From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com>=0ATo: t
eamgrumman-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 6:25 AM
=0ASubject: TeamGrumman-List: AvGas being sold at MoGas Stations=0A =0A=0AG
ang:=0A=0AI was just informed of an article in the NEWARK STAR LEDGER (NEWA
RK, NJ NEWSPAPER), Page 21.=0A=0AGas Stations being shut down because they
are selling AVIATION GAS!!!=0A=0AToo bad I did not know which station were
selling it... I would have loaded up! -Especially at $3.60 a Gallon. <--
High Test. -Maybe it was in the REGULAR Pumps at $3.26 a Gallon???=0ABut,
the questions have to be asked:=0A1 - If there is so much control over AvG
as <--- So they say as to keep prices high. -Where was the control on the
delivery?=0A2 - Was AvGAs put into-uncontrolled-MoGas delivery vehicle
s?=0A3 - Was MoGas put into uncontrolled AvGas delivery vehicles?=0A4 - Hav
e the Controlled Delivery Vehicles now been-contaminated-with MoGas?=0A
5 - OMG ! ! ! ... What will our Ever Vigilant EPA do now that LEAD is being
burned by surface vehicles? And...=0A6 - Who picks up the $TAB$ on the-d
estroyed-Catalytic-Converters. <--- NJ in all their-wisdom-has done
away with automobile inspection. -Except for-EMISSIONS-TESTING. -S
o, if your car fails and you don't even know you had a load of AvGas who pa
ys for the repairs??? -AND even if you do know... WHO PAYS!=0A=0ANo coffe
e as yet so these are the only questions I can come up with at this time.
======
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Subject: | Re: AvGas being sold at MoGas Stations |
It happened. But it was Jet-A they were mis-dispensing, not gasoline. Cars w
ere stalled a few blocks way from the station. Jet-A is kerosene, and it wou
ld do a lot worse than just foul the catcon. I suspect the engines were dama
ged as well. A half-dozen stations and 80,000 gallons.
http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=17931439
-mel via cell
On Dec 13, 2012, at 9:06 PM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I doubt it. That would be pretty impossible to screw up.
>
>
> From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com>
> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 6:25 AM
> Subject: TeamGrumman-List: AvGas being sold at MoGas Stations
>
> Gang:
>
> I was just informed of an article in the NEWARK STAR LEDGER (NEWARK, NJ NE
WSPAPER), Page 21.
>
> Gas Stations being shut down because they are selling AVIATION GAS!!!
>
> Too bad I did not know which station were selling it... I would have loade
d up! Especially at $3.60 a Gallon. <-- High Test. Maybe it was in the REG
ULAR Pumps at $3.26 a Gallon???
> But, the questions have to be asked:
> 1 - If there is so much control over AvGas <--- So they say as to keep pri
ces high. Where was the control on the delivery?
> 2 - Was AvGAs put into uncontrolled MoGas delivery vehicles?
> 3 - Was MoGas put into uncontrolled AvGas delivery vehicles?
> 4 - Have the Controlled Delivery Vehicles now been contaminated with MoGas
?
> 5 - OMG ! ! ! ... What will our Ever Vigilant EPA do now that LEAD is bein
g burned by surface vehicles? And...
> 6 - Who picks up the $TAB$ on the destroyed Catalytic Converters. <--- NJ i
n all their wisdom has done away with automobile inspection. Except for EMI
SSIONS TESTING. So, if your car fails and you don't even know you had a loa
d of AvGas who pays for the repairs??? AND even if you do know... WHO PAYS!
>
> No coffee as yet so these are the only questions I can come up with at thi
s time.
> Maybe you have a few to ask?
>
>
> Barry
>
>
>
>
>
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