---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 03/07/13: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:33 AM - Re: Re: pic (FLYaDIVE) 2. 09:53 AM - Re: Re: pic (Gary L Vogt) 3. 10:20 AM - Re: Re: pic (FLYaDIVE) 4. 10:39 AM - Re: Re: pic (Gary L Vogt) 5. 01:43 PM - Re: Re: pic (n26390@AOL.COM) 6. 02:56 PM - Re: Re: pic (FLYaDIVE) 7. 03:11 PM - Re: Re: pic (FLYaDIVE) 8. 04:42 PM - Re: Re: pic (n26390@AOL.COM) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:33:54 AM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: pic From: FLYaDIVE Hi Linn: It looks like an OooPsy cover. It is covering the the cables that goes down the centerline of the plane to the tail. It is so clumsby people don't step on them. OooPsy! But then again the floor sure looks nice - Painted Maybe? So it could be just a paint shield so the cables and the color coding on them do not get obliterated. It does look like the spar has a paper cover? But, if the floor is painted and the cables are not - How come the small area between the OooPsy cover and the spar - Where the cables show - The cables are not painted? TRICK PHOTOGRAPHY? And why not paint the spar? UNLESS? The spar is painted a different color! Gary, are you getting into Fung Shway and home decorating? More energy flow through the centerline of the plane could equate to more forward speed. ;-) Barry On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Linn wrote: > Gary .... I guess that's a pic from an AA-5 ..... but it would be nice > to have a description for us that are -5 ignorant!! > Linn > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:53:49 AM PST US From: Gary L Vogt Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: pic Speaking of Fung Shway=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: FL YaDIVE =0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com =0ASent: T hursday, March 7, 2013 4:33 AM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: pic=0A =0A=0AHi Linn:=0A=0AIt looks like an OooPsy cover. -It is covering the th e cables that goes down the centerline of the plane to the tail. -It is s o clumsby people don't step on them. -OooPsy!=0A=0ABut then again the flo or sure looks nice - Painted Maybe? -So it could be just a paint shield s o the cables and the color coding on them do not get-obliterated. -It d oes look like the spar has a paper cover? - -But, if the floor is paint ed and the cables are not - How come the small area between the OooPsy cove r and the spar - Where the cables show - The cables are not painted? -TRI CK-PHOTOGRAPHY? -And why not paint the spar? -UNLESS? -The spar is painted a different color! -Gary, are you getting into Fung Shway and hom e decorating?=0AMore-energy-flow through the centerline of the plane co uld equate to more forward speed.=0A=0A;-)=0ABarry=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0AOn Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Linn wrote:=0A =0AGary .... I guess that's a pic from an AA-5 ..... but it would be nice t ================ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:20:06 AM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: pic From: FLYaDIVE Gary: That sure looks gorgeous. Will the owner appreciate it? And have you been checked for OCD? :-) Barry ===================================== On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Gary L Vogt wrote: > Speaking of Fung Shway > > ------------------------------ > *From:* FLYaDIVE > *To:* teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Thursday, March 7, 2013 4:33 AM > *Subject:* Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: pic > > Hi Linn: > > It looks like an OooPsy cover. It is covering the the cables that goes > down the centerline of the plane to the tail. It is so clumsby people > don't step on them. OooPsy! > > But then again the floor sure looks nice - Painted Maybe? So it could be > just a paint shield so the cables and the color coding on them do not > get obliterated. It does look like the spar has a paper cover? But, if > the floor is painted and the cables are not - How come the small area > between the OooPsy cover and the spar - Where the cables show - The cables > are not painted? TRICK PHOTOGRAPHY? And why not paint the spar? UNLESS? > The spar is painted a different color! Gary, are you getting into Fung > Shway and home decorating? > More energy flow through the centerline of the plane could equate to more > forward speed. > > ;-) > Barry > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Linn wrote: > > Gary .... I guess that's a pic from an AA-5 ..... but it would be nice > to have a description for us that are -5 ignorant!! > Linn > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:39:02 AM PST US From: Gary L Vogt Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: pic It's CDO. -It needs to be in alphabetical order.=0A=0A=0A________________ ________________=0A From: FLYaDIVE =0ATo: teamgrumman-l ist@matronics.com =0ASent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 10:19 AM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: pic=0A =0A=0AGary:=0A=0AThat sure looks-gorgeous. -Will the owner-appreciate-it?=0A=0AAnd have you been checked for OCD ?=0A=0A:-)=0A=0ABarry=0A==============0A=0AOn Thu , Mar 7, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Gary L Vogt wrote:=0A=0A Speaking of Fung Shway=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>________________________________=0A> From: FLYaDIVE =0A>To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com =0A>Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 4:33 AM=0A>Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: pic=0A> =0A>=0A>=0A>Hi Linn:=0A>=0A>=0A>It looks like an OooPsy cover. -It is covering the the cables that goes down the centerline of the plan e to the tail. -It is so clumsby people don't step on them. -OooPsy!=0A >=0A>=0A>But then again the floor sure looks nice - Painted Maybe? -So it could be just a paint shield so the cables and the color coding on them do not get-obliterated. -It does look like the spar has a paper cover? - -But, if the floor is painted and the cables are not - How come the s mall area between the OooPsy cover and the spar - Where the cables show - T he cables are not painted? -TRICK-PHOTOGRAPHY? -And why not paint the spar? -UNLESS? -The spar is painted a different color! -Gary, are yo u getting into Fung Shway and home decorating?=0A>More-energy-flow thro ugh the centerline of the plane could equate to more forward speed.=0A>=0A> =0A>;-)=0A>Barry=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Linn wrote:=0A>=0A>Ga ry .... I guess that's a pic from an AA-5 ..... but it would be nice to hav e a description for us that are -5 ignorant!!=0A>>Linn=0A>>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A -======================== =================== ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:43:39 PM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: pic From: n26390@AOL.COM I don't know if everyone noticed but there is a modification to the caniste r vacuum filter installation in the first picture. It is probably one of t he best things you can do for yourself or your mechanic (it's described on the AuCountry website). Now if Gary could come up with something for the g arter vacuum filter I'd be a happy camper. Roger Rucker AA5A '78 HWO -----Original Message----- From: Gary L Vogt Sent: Thu, Mar 7, 2013 12:55 pm Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: pic Speaking of Fung Shway From: FLYaDIVE To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 4:33 AM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: pic Hi Linn: It looks like an OooPsy cover. It is covering the the cables that goes dow n the centerline of the plane to the tail. It is so clumsby people don't s tep on them. OooPsy! But then again the floor sure looks nice - Painted Maybe? So it could be j ust a paint shield so the cables and the color coding on them do not get ob literated. It does look like the spar has a paper cover? But, if the fl oor is painted and the cables are not - How come the small area between the OooPsy cover and the spar - Where the cables show - The cables are not pai nted? TRICK PHOTOGRAPHY? And why not paint the spar? UNLESS? The spar i s painted a different color! Gary, are you getting into Fung Shway and hom e decorating? More energy flow through the centerline of the plane could equate to more f orward speed. ;-) Barry On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Linn wrote: Gary .... I guess that's a pic from an AA-5 ..... but it would be nice to have a description for us that are -5 ignorant!! Linn ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:56:50 PM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: pic From: FLYaDIVE VERY GOOD - VERY GOOD, Gary - - - You have me laughing really hard. Barry Abrry On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Gary L Vogt wrote: > It's CDO. It needs to be in alphabetical order. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* FLYaDIVE > *To:* teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Thursday, March 7, 2013 10:19 AM > > *Subject:* Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: pic > > Gary: > > That sure looks gorgeous. Will the owner appreciate it? > > And have you been checked for OCD? > > :-) > > Barry > ============ > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Gary L Vogt wrote: > > Speaking of Fung Shway > > ------------------------------ > *From:* FLYaDIVE > *To:* teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Thursday, March 7, 2013 4:33 AM > *Subject:* Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: pic > > Hi Linn: > > It looks like an OooPsy cover. It is covering the the cables that goes > down the centerline of the plane to the tail. It is so clumsby people > don't step on them. OooPsy! > > But then again the floor sure looks nice - Painted Maybe? So it could > be just a paint shield so the cables and the color coding on them do not > get obliterated. It does look like the spar has a paper cover? But, if > the floor is painted and the cables are not - How come the small area > between the OooPsy cover and the spar - Where the cables show - The cables > are not painted? TRICK PHOTOGRAPHY? And why not paint the spar? UNLESS? > The spar is painted a different color! Gary, are you getting into Fung > Shway and home decorating? > More energy flow through the centerline of the plane could equate to more > forward speed. > > ;-) > Barry > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Linn wrote: > > Gary .... I guess that's a pic from an AA-5 ..... but it would be nice > to have a description for us that are -5 ignorant!! > Linn > > * > > * > > > * > > * > > * > > > * > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:11:25 PM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: pic From: FLYaDIVE Roger: I can't see it... Does it have a Wingnut? Indicating removable from the inside? I don't know where I first heard of that - Gary if it was you, THANKS! I did that after my first Annual 14 years ago. GREAT IDEA! Now - If you want the Mod for the Garter Filter... EASY. All you have to do in put a spacer on the INSIDE between the fixture and the firewall. I did this with a large brass nut - I just happen to have. All it has to do is give you room to slide on and off the filter. The only issue is you have to remove ALL the hoses so the fixture is spaced away from the firewall. NOW - Thinking back. You maybe able to do the spacing using a piece of heavy wall PVC (Sked 40) and making a 'C' shape just to snap over feed through part of the fixture. About 3/8" thick. Two other tricks to get things to fit: 1 - Remove the Sound Proofing around the fixture - It helps a little, or 2 - Flatten it down by installing a thin sheet of aluminum - It also helps a little. I went with the EASY method. Barry On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 4:42 PM, wrote: > I don't know if everyone noticed but there is a modification to the > canister vacuum filter installation in the first picture. It is probably > one of the best things you can do for yourself or your mechanic (it's > described on the AuCountry website). Now if Gary could come up with > something for the garter vacuum filter I'd be a happy camper. > Roger Rucker > AA5A '78 HWO > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary L Vogt > To: teamgrumman-list > Sent: Thu, Mar 7, 2013 12:55 pm > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: pic > > Speaking of Fung Shway > > ------------------------------ > *From:* FLYaDIVE > *To:* teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Thursday, March 7, 2013 4:33 AM > *Subject:* Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: pic > > Hi Linn: > > It looks like an OooPsy cover. It is covering the the cables that goes > down the centerline of the plane to the tail. It is so clumsby people > don't step on them. OooPsy! > > But then again the floor sure looks nice - Painted Maybe? So it could > be just a paint shield so the cables and the color coding on them do not > get obliterated. It does look like the spar has a paper cover? But, if > the floor is painted and the cables are not - How come the small area > between the OooPsy cover and the spar - Where the cables show - The cables > are not painted? TRICK PHOTOGRAPHY? And why not paint the spar? UNLESS? > The spar is painted a different color! Gary, are you getting into Fung > Shway and home decorating? > More energy flow through the centerline of the plane could equate to more > forward speed. > > ;-) > Barry > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Linn wrote: > > Gary .... I guess that's a pic from an AA-5 ..... but it would be nice > to have a description for us that are -5 ignorant!! > Linn > > ** > > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:42:42 PM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: pic From: n26390@AOL.COM Yep, the wingnut is there. I had to click on the pic and zoom-in to see it . Thanks for the ideas on the other filter. Bests, Roger Rucker AA5A '78 HWO -----Original Message----- From: FLYaDIVE Sent: Thu, Mar 7, 2013 6:11 pm Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: pic Roger: I can't see it... Does it have a Wingnut? Indicating removable from the in side? I don't know where I first heard of that - Gary if it was you, THANKS! I d id that after my first Annual 14 years ago. GREAT IDEA! Now - If you want the Mod for the Garter Filter... EASY. All you have to do in put a spacer on the INSIDE between the fixture and th e firewall. I did this with a large brass nut - I just happen to have. Al l it has to do is give you room to slide on and off the filter. The only i ssue is you have to remove ALL the hoses so the fixture is spaced away from the firewall. NOW - Thinking back. You maybe able to do the spacing usin g a piece of heavy wall PVC (Sked 40) and making a 'C' shape just to snap o ver feed through part of the fixture. About 3/8" thick. Two other tricks to get things to fit: 1 - Remove the Sound Proofing around the fixture - It helps a little, or 2 - Flatten it down by installing a thin sheet of aluminum - It also helps a little. I went with the EASY method. Barry On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 4:42 PM, wrote: I don't know if everyone noticed but there is a modification to the caniste r vacuum filter installation in the first picture. It is probably one of t he best things you can do for yourself or your mechanic (it's described on the AuCountry website). Now if Gary could come up with something for the g arter vacuum filter I'd be a happy camper. Roger Rucker AA5A '78 HWO -----Original Message----- From: Gary L Vogt Sent: Thu, Mar 7, 2013 12:55 pm Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: pic Speaking of Fung Shway From: FLYaDIVE To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 4:33 AM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: pic Hi Linn: It looks like an OooPsy cover. It is covering the the cables that goes dow n the centerline of the plane to the tail. It is so clumsby people don't s tep on them. OooPsy! But then again the floor sure looks nice - Painted Maybe? So it could be j ust a paint shield so the cables and the color coding on them do not get ob literated. It does look like the spar has a paper cover? But, if the fl oor is painted and the cables are not - How come the small area between the OooPsy cover and the spar - Where the cables show - The cables are not pai nted? TRICK PHOTOGRAPHY? And why not paint the spar? UNLESS? The spar i s painted a different color! Gary, are you getting into Fung Shway and hom e decorating? More energy flow through the centerline of the plane could equate to more f orward speed. ;-) Barry On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Linn wrote: Gary .... I guess that's a pic from an AA-5 ..... but it would be nice to have a description for us that are -5 ignorant!! 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