---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 03/18/13: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 11:08 AM - Wing tank reseal (Gary L Vogt) 2. 01:16 PM - Re: Wing tank reseal (Hosler, John) 3. 02:04 PM - Re: Wing tank reseal (Mel Beckman) 4. 02:45 PM - Re: Wing tank reseal (Hosler, John) 5. 05:17 PM - Re: Wing tank reseal (jetinc@comcast.net) 6. 10:22 PM - Re: Wing tank reseal (Gary L Vogt) 7. 10:31 PM - Re: Wing tank reseal (Gary L Vogt) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 11:08:23 AM PST US From: Gary L Vogt Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Wing tank reseal First pic: I found this pick in the wing. -I was thinking that maybe this wing hadn't been resealed before. -=0ASecond pic: I'm getting down to th e short strokes now.=0A=0AI've got about 25 hours in this wing. -At this point, I wish I had not started on the top half of the rib. -Got burned o nce on a wing by not doing both sides so . . . . .-=0A=0ADid the Polysulf ide stripper work? -Well, yes and no. -It's difficult to control. -It strips, but, not all that well. -The Polysulfide in this tank is almost black. -It doesn't look like anything I've ever used. -It is a bit brit tle compared to PS890. -It also sticks like crazy. -It's nearly impossi ble to get under it and scrape up a piece. -THe other stuff I can grab on to with suture clamps and drag out a chunk. -This stuff breaks off. - =0A=0AGary ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:16:28 PM PST US From: "Hosler, John" Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Wing tank reseal I hate to ask this but how often do you need to "reseal" tanks? I have h ad my 1977 Cheetah since 1981. Over 5000 hrs. No leaks. John From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumm an-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary L Vogt Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:07 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Wing tank reseal First pic: I found this pick in the wing. I was thinking that maybe this wing hadn't been resealed before. Second pic: I'm getting down to the short strokes now. I've got about 25 hours in this wing. At this point, I wish I had not st arted on the top half of the rib. Got burned once on a wing by not doing both sides so . . . . . Did the Polysulfide stripper work? Well, yes and no. It's difficult to control. It strips, but, not all that well. The Polysulfide in this tan k is almost black. It doesn't look like anything I've ever used. It is a bit brittle compared to PS890. It also sticks like crazy. It's nearly impossible to get under it and scrape up a piece. THe other stuff I can grab onto with suture clamps and drag out a chunk. This stuff breaks of f. Gary ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:04:39 PM PST US From: Mel Beckman Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Wing tank reseal It depends on how much turbulence you fly through ;) -mel On Mar 18, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Hosler, John wrote: > I hate to ask this but how often do you need to =93reseal=94 tanks? I have had my 1977 Cheetah since 1981. Over 5000 hrs. No leaks. > > John > > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary L Vogt > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:07 PM > To: Teamgrumman List > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Wing tank reseal > > First pic: I found this pick in the wing. I was thinking that maybe this wing hadn't been resealed before. > Second pic: I'm getting down to the short strokes now. > > I've got about 25 hours in this wing. At this point, I wish I had not started on the top half of the rib. Got burned once on a wing by not doing both sides so . . . . . > > Did the Polysulfide stripper work? Well, yes and no. It's difficult to control. It strips, but, not all that well. The Polysulfide in this tank is almost black. It doesn't look like anything I've ever used. It is a bit brittle compared to PS890. It also sticks like crazy. It's nearly impossible to get under it and scrape up a piece. THe other stuff I can grab onto with suture clamps and drag out a chunk. This stuff breaks off. > > Gary > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:45:01 PM PST US From: "Hosler, John" Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Wing tank reseal Then I am in big trouble. From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumm an-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mel Beckman Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 4:34 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Wing tank reseal It depends on how much turbulence you fly through ;) -mel On Mar 18, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Hosler, John wrote: I hate to ask this but how often do you need to "reseal" tanks? I have h ad my 1977 Cheetah since 1981. Over 5000 hrs. No leaks. John From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matron ics.com] On Behalf Of Gary L Vogt Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:07 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Wing tank reseal First pic: I found this pick in the wing. I was thinking that maybe this wing hadn't been resealed before. Second pic: I'm getting down to the short strokes now. I've got about 25 hours in this wing. At this point, I wish I had not st arted on the top half of the rib. Got burned once on a wing by not doing both sides so . . . . . Did the Polysulfide stripper work? Well, yes and no. It's difficult to control. It strips, but, not all that well. The Polysulfide in this tan k is almost black. It doesn't look like anything I've ever used. It is a bit brittle compared to PS890. It also sticks like crazy. It's nearly impossible to get under it and scrape up a piece. THe other stuff I can grab onto with suture clamps and drag out a chunk. This stuff breaks of f. Gary href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List" style="col or: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigato r?TeamGrumman-List blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://forums.matronics.com style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.matronics. com/contribution ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:17:10 PM PST US From: jetinc@comcast.net Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Wing tank reseal Sounds like a bitch Gary. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary L Vogt" Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 11:07:04 AM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Wing tank reseal First pic: I found this pick in the wing. I was thinking that maybe this wing hadn't been resealed before. Second pic: I'm getting down to the short strokes now. I've got about 25 hours in this wing. At this point, I wish I had not started on the top half of the rib. Got burned once on a wing by not doing both sides so . . . . . Did the Polysulfide stripper work? Well, yes and no. It's difficult to control. It strips, but, not all that well. The Polysulfide in this tank is almost black. It doesn't look like anything I've ever used. It is a bit brittle compared to PS890. It also sticks like crazy. It's nearly impossible to get under it and scrape up a piece. THe other stuff I can grab onto with suture clamps and drag out a chunk. This stuff breaks off. Gary ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:22:26 PM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Wing tank reseal From: Gary L Vogt Only needs to resealed when it leaks. Not that common. Sent from my iPad On Mar 18, 2013, at 1:14 PM, "Hosler, John" wrote: > I hate to ask this but how often do you need to =9Creseal=9D t anks? I have had my 1977 Cheetah since 1981. Over 5000 hrs. No leaks. > > John > > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumma n-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary L Vogt > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:07 PM > To: Teamgrumman List > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Wing tank reseal > > First pic: I found this pick in the wing. I was thinking that maybe this w ing hadn't been resealed before. > Second pic: I'm getting down to the short strokes now. > > I've got about 25 hours in this wing. At this point, I wish I had not sta rted on the top half of the rib. Got burned once on a wing by not doing bot h sides so . . . . . > > Did the Polysulfide stripper work? Well, yes and no. It's difficult to c ontrol. It strips, but, not all that well. The Polysulfide in this tank is almost black. It doesn't look like anything I've ever used. It is a bit b rittle compared to PS890. It also sticks like crazy. It's nearly impossibl e to get under it and scrape up a piece. THe other stuff I can grab onto wi th suture clamps and drag out a chunk. This stuff breaks off. > > Gary > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:31:24 PM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Wing tank reseal From: Gary L Vogt "It depends on how much turbulence you fly through ;) > > > -mel " I put this under old wives tales. If it leaks, odds are there was a bubble i n the sealant when it was sealed. Or a small spot was missed. I've got a 74 T raveler That's never had the wings opened. Another customer has a much misus ed and abused Cheetah with no wing leak history. One plane has been crashed t wice, nothing serious, wings bonded and still no leaks. On the other hand, I had a 2004 Tiger with a leak from the factory. Several s erial numbers later another 2004 is dry. It's the luck of the draw. Gar y Sent from my iPad On Mar 18, 2013, at 2:44 PM, "Hosler, John" wrote: > Then I am in big trouble. > > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumma n-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mel Beckman > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 4:34 PM > To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Wing tank reseal > > It depends on how much turbulence you fly through ;) > > -mel > > On Mar 18, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Hosler, John wrote: > > > I hate to ask this but how often do you need to =9Creseal=9D t anks? I have had my 1977 Cheetah since 1981. Over 5000 hrs. No leaks. > > John > > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumma n-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary L Vogt > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:07 PM > To: Teamgrumman List > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Wing tank reseal > > First pic: I found this pick in the wing. I was thinking that maybe this w ing hadn't been resealed before. > Second pic: I'm getting down to the short strokes now. > > I've got about 25 hours in this wing. At this point, I wish I had not sta rted on the top half of the rib. Got burned once on a wing by not doing bot h sides so . . . . . > > Did the Polysulfide stripper work? Well, yes and no. It's difficult to c ontrol. It strips, but, not all that well. The Polysulfide in this tank is almost black. It doesn't look like anything I've ever used. It is a bit b rittle compared to PS890. It also sticks like crazy. It's nearly impossibl e to get under it and scrape up a piece. THe other stuff I can grab onto wi th suture clamps and drag out a chunk. 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