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| Subject: | Re: Wing tank reseal |
If you haven't had a leaky tank, then all I can say is thank someone above. I
t is by far the biggest PITA! My IA wont even fix them anymore, especially o
n moonies. Apparently they are worse than grummans. The only reason he helpe
d me is he didn't do much except shoot the rivets to fix my delaminated wing
and inspect everything before I put it all together. I got to do all the sc
raping, and cleaning, and sealing. I really hope I never have to do that aga
in.
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On Mar 19, 2013, at 12:31 AM, Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "It depends on how much turbulence you fly through ;)
>>
>>
>> -mel
> "
>
> I put this under old wives tales. If it leaks, odds are there was a bubbl
e in the sealant when it was sealed. Or a small spot was missed. I've got a 7
4 Traveler That's never had the wings opened. Another customer has a much mi
sused and abused Cheetah with no wing leak history. One plane has been crash
ed twice, nothing serious, wings bonded and still no leaks.
>
> On the other hand, I had a 2004 Tiger with a leak from the factory. Severa
l serial numbers later another 2004 is dry.
>
> It's the luck of the draw.
>
> Gar y
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> On Mar 18, 2013, at 2:44 PM, "Hosler, John" <JHOSLER@epri.com> wrote:
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>> Then I am in big trouble.
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>> From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumm
an-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mel Beckman
>> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 4:34 PM
>> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Wing tank reseal
>>
>> It depends on how much turbulence you fly through ;)
>>
>> -mel
>>
>> On Mar 18, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Hosler, John wrote:
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>> I hate to ask this but how often do you need to =9Creseal=9D t
anks? I have had my 1977 Cheetah since 1981. Over 5000 hrs. No leaks.
>>
>> John
>>
>> From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumm
an-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary L Vogt
>> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:07 PM
>> To: Teamgrumman List
>> Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Wing tank reseal
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>> First pic: I found this pick in the wing. I was thinking that maybe this
wing hadn't been resealed before.
>> Second pic: I'm getting down to the short strokes now.
>>
>> I've got about 25 hours in this wing. At this point, I wish I had not st
arted on the top half of the rib. Got burned once on a wing by not doing bo
th sides so . . . . .
>>
>> Did the Polysulfide stripper work? Well, yes and no. It's difficult to c
ontrol. It strips, but, not all that well. The Polysulfide in this tank is
almost black. It doesn't look like anything I've ever used. It is a bit b
rittle compared to PS890. It also sticks like crazy. It's nearly impossibl
e to get under it and scrape up a piece. THe other stuff I can grab onto wi
th suture clamps and drag out a chunk. This stuff breaks off.
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>> Gary
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| Subject: | Re: Wing tank reseal |
I got the tank, pretty much, all cleaned today. Figure about 30 hours total s
o far. Just some final cleaning and then the sealant.
On-the-whole, this is about average. The last tank I resealed was in 2007. I
only resealed the top half of the rib. The top half of the rib had been re
sealed 6 times previously. I dug out a LOT of sealant. I had about 25 hours i
n cleaning half a rib. It is a major PITA to clean the tank.
Gary
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On Mar 19, 2013, at 9:33 PM, Brock <n2_narcosis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> If you haven't had a leaky tank, then all I can say is thank someone above
. It is by far the biggest PITA! My IA wont even fix them anymore, especial
ly on moonies. Apparently they are worse than grummans. The only reason he h
elped me is he didn't do much except shoot the rivets to fix my delaminated w
ing and inspect everything before I put it all together. I got to do all the
scraping, and cleaning, and sealing. I really hope I never have to do that a
gain.
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> On Mar 19, 2013, at 12:31 AM, Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> "It depends on how much turbulence you fly through ;)
>>>
>>>
>>> -mel
>> "
>>
>> I put this under old wives tales. If it leaks, odds are there was a bubb
le in the sealant when it was sealed. Or a small spot was missed. I've got a
74 Traveler That's never had the wings opened. Another customer has a much m
isused and abused Cheetah with no wing leak history. One plane has been cras
hed twice, nothing serious, wings bonded and still no leaks.
>>
>> On the other hand, I had a 2004 Tiger with a leak from the factory. Sever
al serial numbers later another 2004 is dry.
>>
>> It's the luck of the draw.
>>
>> Gar y
>> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Mar 18, 2013, at 2:44 PM, "Hosler, John" <JHOSLER@epri.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Then I am in big trouble.
>>>
>>> From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrum
man-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mel Beckman
>>> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 4:34 PM
>>> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Wing tank reseal
>>>
>>> It depends on how much turbulence you fly through ;)
>>>
>>> -mel
>>>
>>> On Mar 18, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Hosler, John wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I hate to ask this but how often do you need to =9Creseal=9D
tanks? I have had my 1977 Cheetah since 1981. Over 5000 hrs. No leaks.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrum
man-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary L Vogt
>>> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:07 PM
>>> To: Teamgrumman List
>>> Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Wing tank reseal
>>>
>>> First pic: I found this pick in the wing. I was thinking that maybe thi
s wing hadn't been resealed before.
>>> Second pic: I'm getting down to the short strokes now.
>>>
>>> I've got about 25 hours in this wing. At this point, I wish I had not s
tarted on the top half of the rib. Got burned once on a wing by not doing b
oth sides so . . . . .
>>>
>>> Did the Polysulfide stripper work? Well, yes and no. It's difficult to
control. It strips, but, not all that well. The Polysulfide in this tank i
s almost black. It doesn't look like anything I've ever used. It is a bit b
rittle compared to PS890. It also sticks like crazy. It's nearly impossibl
e to get under it and scrape up a piece. THe other stuff I can grab onto wi
th suture clamps and drag out a chunk. This stuff breaks off.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
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