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1. 07:52 AM - Re: Powerflow (boxereighty@AOL.COM)
2. 08:38 AM - Re: Re: Powerflow (Jim Shafer)
3. 10:01 AM - Re: Re: Powerflow (923te@att.net)
4. 03:33 PM - Re: Re: Powerflow (Brock)
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aI am trying to decide on what my next upgrade should be. Powerflow exhaus
t, o
r electronic ignition. The ignition is a little cheaper, but I imagine take
s
more time to install. Is this correct? Which do you think gives the best
bang for
the buck, exhaust or ignition?
I have both the PowerFlow (since 2006) and the ElectroAir (since last Novem
ber). IMHO by and large the claims by their manufacturers are true. A power
flow rep/expert just listed the high points of a power flow installation h
ere yesterday. I wouldn't willingly go back to an OEM exhaust OR dual magne
to system now but none of that is the crux of Brock's question. The questio
n he poses is which ONE to buy with limited resources.
If an exhaust system was blown out or a mag was bad at inspection it would
make it simple to chose. I wouldn't replace or repair a failed OEM exhaust
system with another OEM unit while at the same time replacing a good magnet
o with an ElectroAir -- if I was on a budget. It just wouldn't make sense.
And if both were in apparent good health now and I was going to chose whic
h upgrade to do NOW I would probably chose the ElectroAir just because that
mag could fail on the next flight while the exhaust system will more than
likely last to a normal demise.
Barry covered some of the additional expenses for a PF installation and som
e of the same "hidden cost" issues exist for the ElectroAir installation. W
hen you install the E-A, in addition to installing the supplied kit you wil
l want to the point of need at least 4 and maybe 8, new plugs, a modified o
r replaced ignition switch, and rerouted ignition harness for the remaining
mag. None of this is real expensive but will add a few bucks to the bang/b
uck analysis.
Bottom line, I would make a decision, exhaust or ignition, on which system
I felt would need major maintenance next - and upgrade that system. If I th
ought both were absolutely equal in that evaluation I'd go with the Electro
Air upgrade just because I have had more unplanned mag problems develop ove
rnight than exhaust problems.
If I misunderstood the question and budget isn't an issue get both next we
ek and throw in an MT prop and Gary's cowl while your at it - you'll have t
he whole package.
Brent Smith
N28386/1N1
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Very good (and accurate) points, Mr. Smith. To avoid monopolizing the list,
I was trying to condense my post as much as possible.
Some other factors in the "it all depends" category would be the type of
flying you typically do:
If you normally operate out of an airport with long, paved runways and/or do
a lot of cross country flights at higher altitudes, I'd have to say that
(absent an unlimited budget, as Brent points out), you'd probably be better
served by doing the Electroair upgrade first.
If you fly out of a short, rough strip with crummy approaches or you do a
lot of "puddle jumping" at low altitudes, I would make getting the Power
Flow System a priority.
Of course, Gary's cowl will look, work and fly great no matter what type of
flying you do!
All the Best!
- Jim Shafer
Power Flow Systems, Inc.
Ph: (877) 693-7356
Fax: (877) 570-9831
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[mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
boxereighty@aol.com
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 10:52 AM
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Powerflow
aI am trying to decide on what my next upgrade should be. Powerflow
exhaust, o
r electronic ignition. The ignition is a little cheaper, but I imagine takes
more time to install. Is this correct? Which do you think gives the best
bang for
the buck, exhaust or ignition?
I have both the PowerFlow (since 2006) and the ElectroAir (since last
November). IMHO by and large the claims by their manufacturers are true. A
power flow rep/expert just listed the high points of a power flow
installation here yesterday. I wouldn't willingly go back to an OEM exhaust
OR dual magneto system now but none of that is the crux of Brock's question.
The question he poses is which ONE to buy with limited resources.
If an exhaust system was blown out or a mag was bad at inspection it would
make it simple to chose. I wouldn't replace or repair a failed OEM exhaust
system with another OEM unit while at the same time replacing a good magneto
with an ElectroAir -- if I was on a budget. It just wouldn't make sense.
And if both were in apparent good health now and I was going to chose which
upgrade to do NOW I would probably chose the ElectroAir just because that
mag could fail on the next flight while the exhaust system will more than
likely last to a normal demise.
Barry covered some of the additional expenses for a PF installation and some
of the same "hidden cost" issues exist for the ElectroAir installation. When
you install the E-A, in addition to installing the supplied kit you will
want to the point of need at least 4 and maybe 8, new plugs, a modified or
replaced ignition switch, and rerouted ignition harness for the remaining
mag. None of this is real expensive but will add a few bucks to the
bang/buck analysis.
Bottom line, I would make a decision, exhaust or ignition, on which system I
felt would need major maintenance next - and upgrade that system. If I
thought both were absolutely equal in that evaluation I'd go with the
ElectroAir upgrade just because I have had more unplanned mag problems
develop overnight than exhaust problems.
If I misunderstood the question and budget isn't an issue get both next
week and throw in an MT prop and Gary's cowl while your at it - you'll have
the whole package.
Brent Smith
N28386/1N1
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Hey Brock,
I gots all dem upgrades and daes is all very goot. Use's next grade up ought be
a IFR rating! It's cheaper den any dem udders and will give u more faster time
in d air den de udders....
So get kracken 2day and get dat rating started today!
Your hangar maitee
Ned
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I would have the problem you do, KEEPING CURRENT!!!
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On Jul 12, 2013, at 12:01 PM, 923te@att.net wrote:
>
> Hey Brock,
> I gots all dem upgrades and daes is all very goot. Use's next grade up ought
be a IFR rating! It's cheaper den any dem udders and will give u more faster time
in d air den de udders....
>
> So get kracken 2day and get dat rating started today!
>
> Your hangar maitee
> Ned
>
>
>
>
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