---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 11/25/13: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:47 AM - [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser... (Matt Dralle) 1. 06:55 AM - Re: Sweet 16: N1540R (Patrick Wilson) 2. 09:35 AM - Re: N1540R new interior #1 (BILL9725@AOL.COM) 3. 10:43 AM - Re: Sweet 16: N1540R (Gary L Vogt) 4. 11:29 AM - Sweet 16 progress (Gary L Vogt) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:47:57 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: TeamGrumman-List: [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser... >From the beginning, the Matronics List and Forum experience has been free from advertising. I have been approached by fair number of vendors wanting to tap into the large volume of activity across the various lists hosted here, but have always flatly refused. Everywhere you go on the Internet these days, a user is pummeled with flashing banners and videos and ads for crap that they don't want. Yahoo, Google and that elk are not "free". The user must constantly endure their barrage of commercialism thrust into their face at an ever increasing rate. Enough is enough, and the Lists at Matronics choose not to succumb to that. That being said, running a service of this size is not "free". It costs a lot of money to maintain the hardware, pay for the electricity, air conditioning, maintenance contracts, etc, etc. etc. I choose to hold a PBS-like fund raiser each year during the month of November where I simply send out a short email every other day asking the members to make a small contribution to support the operation. That being said, that contribution is completely voluntary and non-compulsory. Many members choose not to contribute and that's fine. However, a very modest percentage of the members do choose to make a contribution and it is that financial support that keeps the Lists running. And that's it. To my way of thinking, it is a much more pleasant way of maintaining the Lists and Forums. The other 11 months of the year, you don't see a single advertisement or request for support. That's refreshing and that is a List and Forum that I want to belong to. I think other people feel the same way. Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these Lists? http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:55:24 AM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Sweet 16: N1540R From: Patrick Wilson Looks Great! Please tell me all about this new Cowling? Patrick Wilson AA5-B 3143786574 -----Original Message----- From: Gary L Vogt Sent: Fri, Nov 22, 2013 10:14 pm Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Sweet 16: N1540R The 16th cowling ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:35:17 AM PST US From: BILL9725@AOL.COM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: N1540R new interior #1 Hi Gary I will be there probably tomorrow if that can work and bring $$$$. Thanks Bill In a message dated 11/24/2013 10:55:38 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, teamgrumman@yahoo.com writes: no. That's the problem with Yahoos new format. I can't tell where it's going. On Saturday, November 23, 2013 10:30 PM, Mike Babin wrote: Gary, Did you really mean to send this to the whole list? Regards, - Mike On Nov 23, 2013, at 23:25 54, Gary L Vogt wrote: Bill, Thanks. It's looking a LOT better. It'll be nice. I ordered the JPI 730. It should be here early next week. I have a preliminary invoice balance as of today. With the JPI and not including the rear plastic pieces and installing them, the balance is $12991.66. That includes all of your payments so far. The rear seats and carpet were $700. If possible, I'd like to get at least half of that. Thanks again. Gary and Clytie On Saturday, November 23, 2013 3:40 PM, "_BILL9725@AOL.COM_ (mailto:BILL9725@AOL.COM) " <_BILL9725@AOL.COM_ (mailto:BILL9725@AOL.COM) > wrote: Hi Gary You are truly working magic. Taking a frog and turning it into a prince Of course I am proud of the result being the owner but if you can turn this into what is coming, then any old tiger can begin a new life! Thanks for the pictures Bill In a message dated 11/22/2013 8:13:00 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, _teamgrumman@yahoo.com_ (mailto:teamgrumman@yahoo.com) writes: I like the way it's turning out. _www.aeroelectric.cect_ (http://www.aeroelectric.cect/) " target="_blank" href="http://www.buildersbooks.com/">www.buildersb target="_blank" href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com/">www.homebuilthelprget="_blank" href="http://www.mypilotstore.com/">www.mypilotstore.comhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?="re ct" target="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com/">_http://fo======================_ (http://fo======================/) href="http://www.aeroelectric.com/">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com/">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com/">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.mypilotstore.com/">www.mypilotstore.com href="http://www.mrrace.com/">www.mrrace.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List href="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/cont-========================arget="_blank" href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-Lis= --> _ (http://www.aeroelectric.com/) (http://www.buildersbooks.com/) (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/) (http://www.mypilotstore.com/) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:43:40 AM PST US From: Gary L Vogt Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Sweet 16: N1540R Patrick,=0A=0AWow, -where to start? -Have you been to my website? -ww w.AuCountry.com -Click on the picture and it will take you to the Cowling page. -There are a number of comparisons on that page.=0A=0AGary=0A=0A =0A=0AOn Monday, November 25, 2013 7:00 AM, Patrick Wilson wrote:=0A =0ALooks Great!=0A-Please tell me all about this new Cowli ng?=0APatrick Wilson=0A--- AA5-B=0A3143786574=0A=0A-----Original Mess age-----=0AFrom: Gary L Vogt =0ATo: Teamgrumman List =0ASent: Fri, Nov 22, 2013 10:14 pm=0ASubj ================= ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:29:40 AM PST US From: Gary L Vogt Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Sweet 16 progress Figure about 30 to 35 hours to get to this spot. -Seems like forever. - Quite frankly, after about 5 or 6 hours of tedious trimming, fitting, insta lling, removing, trimming, fitting, installing and removing I'm exhausted a nd I have to quit for the day or find something else to work on. -=0A=0AO nce the basic fitting of the upper cowling is finished, 10 pilot holes for the cam-locks and 2 pilot holes for nut plates need to be drilled. -Then, 38 pilot holes for the hinge need to be drilled. -Then the upper is fina l trimmed, then riveted.=0A=0AI'm having Composite Dave make a new master c owling with simpler exit ramps and better defined trim lines. -Hopefully, this will decrease install time.=0A=0AOne of the most difficult parts of t he entire installation process is fighting the urge to trim the fiberglass and not move the engine.=0A=0ACase in point: -N1540R.-=0AI fitted my or iginal cowling to a mockup by moving the engine around until the engine fit the cowling. -Then I pre-fit Sweet 16 to the mockup with the engine set to my cowling. -The trim lines on the fiberglass and the drew holes were pretty close; within a few millimeters. -=0A=0AWhen I got N1540R and star ted fitting the cowling to N1540R, it seemed WAY off. -Adding one thick s him on the bottom right and one thin shim on the upper left fixed the align ment. -I really wanted to just trim off an 1/8 inch on one side of the co wling. -Moving the engine is a pain.=0A=0AAligning and fitting the upper cowling takes about 5 to 8 hours.=0A=0AGary ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message teamgrumman-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/TeamGrumman-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/teamgrumman-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/teamgrumman-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.