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                           TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive
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                     Total Messages Posted Sat 12/14/13: 3
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Today's Message Index:
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     1. 11:41 AM - Cracks in horizontal braces  (Gary L Vogt)
     2. 12:34 PM - Re: Cracks in horizontal braces  (Bob Steward)
     3. 12:57 PM - Re: Cracks in horizontal braces  ()
 
 
 
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Time: 11:41:24 AM PST US
From: Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Cracks in horizontal braces

A prospective customer asked how to inspect the horizontal braces. -I tol
d him we could use a customers plane that I was working on as a sample. -
I didn't expect to find anything since the plane appeared to be regularly m
aintained (not by me, he was using another mechanic with 'Grumman experienc
e.'). -In fact, it had just come out of annual.=0A=0AHere is what I found
. -I took pics with my new 9mm camera.=0A=0AThe right side is cracked all
 the way through. -The left side is cracked at the bolt hole.=0A=0AThe ow
ner won't be happy.

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Time: 12:34:34 PM PST US
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Cracks in horizontal braces
From: Bob Steward <n76lima@mindspring.com>

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Time: 12:57:02 PM PST US
From: <n76lima@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Cracks in horizontal braces


WTF?  I guess that was Gary's message that was quoted on my reply.
Oh well, what do you want from a free listserv?
--Bob

From: Bob Steward 
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Cracks in horizontal braces

Yeah, have seen a lot of them with cracks.  Usually in the top at the bend radius,
though I have a growing stack of debonded, bent and otherwise failed HS forward
attach brackets.Have seen only 2 cracked out of the bolt holes.If this is
the worst structural issue we have on our planes that are more than 30 years
old, I'm still happy with the perfect record of ZERO inflight structural failures
of the AA/GA/AG/TA fleet.
--Bob Steward

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