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1. 12:28 AM - Re: aileron bracket (Gary L Vogt)
2. 12:57 AM - Re: aileron bracket (grumpyparts)
3. 04:32 AM - Aileron bracket (Ellismcgaughy)
4. 10:43 AM - Re: Re: aileron bracket (Gary L Vogt)
5. 10:44 AM - Re: Aileron bracket (Gary L Vogt)
6. 10:46 AM - Re: Re: aileron bracket (Gary L Vogt)
7. 11:02 AM - A trip for 3 (Gary L Vogt)
8. 11:25 AM - Re: Aileron bracket (Bob Steward)
9. 11:33 AM - Re: Re: aileron bracket (Bob Steward)
10. 01:26 PM - Re: A trip for 3 (Carol Stocker)
11. 07:29 PM - Re: A trip for 3 (Gary L Vogt)
12. 07:46 PM - Re: A trip for 3 (Carol Stocker)
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| Subject: | Re: aileron bracket |
I didn't. I ordered one from Fletcher. Garner didn't say there weren't any. This
is going to suck big time.
Gary
Sent from my iPad
> On Dec 28, 2013, at 8:51 PM, Bob Steward <n76lima@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> Where did you get a replacement bracket?
> There haven't been any new ones in a while, and all the used ones seem to be
out-of-round in the bearing collar.
>
> --Bob Steward
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| Subject: | Re: aileron bracket |
Garner has just had a new batch made, both the -501's and -504's. They now come
without the attachment holes drilled for match drilling to the rear spar holes.
He may be along latter to give more details.
As for the aileron stops there has been many changes along the way, the attached
picture shows just fours types I have found out there.
We are up to -4 some assuming the others mat have been -1's to -3's.
Again Garner may be able to confirm.
Ian Mattreface
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It was either Ken, Bob or Dave that taught me that the metal plate sandwiches the
aileron bracket between the plate and the rear spar. when I bought my 77 tiger
from a gentleman in 2005, the plate was installed like a spacer between the
spar and the aileron bracket. I flew this way for years and had at least
5 different IAs do my annuals. I have since acquired my A&P and dig more into
the details than most other mechanics. That's how I found mine were installed
wrong. I'm not even sure at the moment if the parts manual shows them
in the correct order. Fortunately, my brackets had not cracked. I took
them down to bare metal, inspected for cracks, reprinted, and installed them
correctly last year.
Lesson learned.....don't assume the airplane is assembled correctly especially
when you buy one used.
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| Subject: | Re: aileron bracket |
This is a 79 Cheetah. -The stop looks like one of your earlier ones.=0A
=0A=0A=0AOn Sunday, December 29, 2013 1:01 AM, grumpyparts <i.r.m@btinterne
i.r.m@btinternet.com>=0A=0AGarner has just had a new batch made, both the -
501's and -504's. They now come without the attachment holes drilled for ma
tch drilling to the rear spar holes.=0A=0AHe may be along latter to give mo
re details.=0A=0AAs for the aileron stops there has been many changes along
the way, the attached picture shows just fours types I have found out ther
e.=0A=0AWe are up to -4 some assuming the others mat have been -1's to -3's
.=0A=0AAgain Garner may be able to confirm.=0A=0AIan Mattreface=0A=0A=0A=0A
=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.
php?p=416314#416314=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AAttachments: =0A=0Ahttp://forums.matron
ics.com//files/aileron_stops_288.jpg=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com//files/a
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, List Admi
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron bracket |
It can't go on the outside of the bracket. -The bracket has a raised port
ion that bends the spacer. -The spacer goes between the bracket and the s
par. -I don't care what anyone else says.=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Sunday, December
29, 2013 4:37 AM, Ellismcgaughy <ellismcgaughy@gmail.com> wrote:=0A =0A-->
TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Ellismcgaughy <ellismcgaughy@gmail.com>
=0A=0AIt was either Ken, Bob or Dave that taught me that the metal plate sa
ndwiches the aileron bracket between the plate and the rear spar.- when I
bought my 77 tiger from a gentleman in 2005, the plate was installed like
a spacer between the spar and the aileron bracket.- I flew this way for
years and had at least 5 different IAs do my annuals.- - I have since a
cquired my A&P and dig more into the details than most other mechanics.-
- That's how I found mine were installed wrong.- - I'm not even sure
at the moment if the parts manual shows them in the correct order.- -
Fortunately, my brackets had not cracked.- - I took them down to bare m
etal, inspected for cracks, reprinted, and installed them correctly last ye
ar.- - =0ALesson learned.....don't assume the airplane is assembled cor
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, L
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| Subject: | Re: aileron bracket |
Too bad about not having the holes drilled. -It's a pain in the ass to ge
t them in the right spot. -I've never had a problem with a predrilled bra
cket.=0A=0A=0A=0AOn , Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:=0A =0AThis
is a 79 Cheetah. -The stop looks like one of your earlier ones.=0A=0A=0A
=0AOn Sunday, December 29, 2013 1:01 AM, grumpyparts <i.r.m@btinternet.com>
btinternet.com>=0A=0AGarner has just had a new batch made, both the -501's
and=0A -504's. They now come without the attachment holes drilled for match
drilling to the rear spar holes.=0A=0AHe may be along latter to give more
details.=0A=0AAs for the aileron stops there has been many changes along th
e way, the attached picture shows just fours types I have found out there.
=0A=0AWe are up to -4 some assuming the others mat have been -1's to -3's.
=0A=0AAgain Garner may be able to confirm.=0A=0AIan Mattreface=0A=0A=0A=0A
=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.
php?p=416314#416314=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AAttachments: =0A=0Ahttp://forums.matron
ics.com//files/aileron_stops_288.jpg=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com//files/a
- - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, List Admi
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Casey Long of Alaska and Argentina fame is home for the winter and has offe
red to donate a trip as an auction prize to benefit our scholarship fund. T
he trip will be a four hour flight to Mercy Hot Springs for three people th
is spring. I happen to be a big fan of natural hot springs, and =C2-deter
mined a couple of years ago that Mercy Hot Springs is a =9Cbucket lis
t=9D destination. We are truly fortunate to have this opportunity.=0A
=0A=A2 Only 300 raffle tickets will be sold=C2-=0A=A2 The tic
kets will be sold primarily online=C2-=0A=A2 Tickets will also be s
old at the January and February Auburn Aviation Association dinners and any
where else we can dream up.=0A=A2 Tickets are $10 each or 6 tickets f
or $50 and donations are=C2-tax deductible.=0A=A2 The drawing will
be held the second week of February 2014.
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| Subject: | Re: A trip for 3 |
Where can I buy tickets???
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Casey Long of Alaska and Argentina fame is home for the winter and has
> offered to donate a trip as an auction prize to benefit our scholarship
> fund. The trip will be a four hour flight to Mercy Hot Springs for three
> people this spring. I happen to be a big fan of natural hot springs, and
> determined a couple of years ago that Mercy Hot Springs is a =93bucket l
ist=94
> destination. We are truly fortunate to have this opportunity.
>
> - Only 300 raffle tickets will be sold
> - The tickets will be sold primarily online
> - Tickets will also be sold at the January and February Auburn Aviation
> Association dinners and anywhere else we can dream up.
> - Tickets are $10 each or 6 tickets for $50 and donations are tax
> deductible.
> - The drawing will be held the second week of February 2014.
>
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| Subject: | Re: A trip for 3 |
I 'think' you can get them through the Auburn Aviation Association. =C2-W
e just talked about this at our meeting last week. =C2-=0A=0AContact the
Auburn Aviation Association president at=0A=0APresident=94Bob Snyder
=0Asnyder@jps.net=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Sunday, December 29, 2013 1:31 PM, Carol St
ocker <stockercarolm@gmail.com> wrote:=0A =0AWhere can I buy tickets???=0A
=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo
.com> wrote:=0A=0ACasey Long of Alaska and Argentina fame is home for the w
inter and has offered to donate a trip as an auction prize to benefit our s
cholarship fund. The trip will be a four hour flight to Mercy Hot Springs f
or three people this spring. I happen to be a big fan of natural hot spring
s, and =C2-determined a couple of years ago that Mercy Hot Springs is a
=9Cbucket list=9D destination. We are truly fortunate to have t
his opportunity.=0A>=0A>=0A>=A2 Only 300 raffle tickets will be sold
=C2-=0A>=A2 The tickets will be sold primarily online=C2-=0A>
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| Subject: | Re: A trip for 3 |
Thanks....Happy New Year!
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote
:
> I 'think' you can get them through the Auburn Aviation Association. We
> just talked about this at our meeting last week.
>
> Contact the Auburn Aviation Association president at
>
> *President=97Bob Snyder*
> snyder@jps.net
>
>
> On Sunday, December 29, 2013 1:31 PM, Carol Stocker <
> stockercarolm@gmail.com> wrote:
> Where can I buy tickets???
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com>wrote
:
>
> Casey Long of Alaska and Argentina fame is home for the winter and has
> offered to donate a trip as an auction prize to benefit our scholarship
> fund. The trip will be a four hour flight to Mercy Hot Springs for three
> people this spring. I happen to be a big fan of natural hot springs, and
> determined a couple of years ago that Mercy Hot Springs is a =93bucket l
ist=94
> destination. We are truly fortunate to have this opportunity.
>
> - Only 300 raffle tickets will be sold
> - The tickets will be sold primarily online
> - Tickets will also be sold at the January and February Auburn Aviation
> Association dinners and anywhere else we can dream up.
> - Tickets are $10 each or 6 tickets for $50 and donations are tax
> deductible.
> - The drawing will be held the second week of February 2014.
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