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| Subject: | Re: Traveller Exhaust |
Hi George,
That is the thing I did not do since the prop was recertified the year
before. I would like to make that change or at least have the prop re
pitched.
Andrew
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On 2014-01-03, at 11:35 PM, George Douglas <george@oilhelp.com> wrote:
I plan to do the HC mod first on my traveler and see how that helps and
then a prop and the power flow will be last. Did you install a different
prop?
George
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On Jan 3, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Andrew Kuzyk <andrew@entro.com> wrote:
Hi George,
I did a bunch of things at the same time (top overhaul with high
compression pistons plus the Powerflow) so I did see a significant
performance increase but I can't say what is attributable to what. It
certainly sounds more sinister.
Best,
Andrew
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Andrew, did the powerflow help with any performance improvements?
Best Regards,
George Douglas
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Hi All,
I recently replaced my stock Traveller 0-320 exhaust with the Powerflow
exhaust system and was hoping to sell my old system for $250.
If you are interested, please drop me a line. Also I am interested in
purchasing wheel pants along with the required mounting brackets and such.
Thanks,
Andrew
416 706 4490
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| Subject: | Re: Traveller Exhaust |
My issue was that once the plane was generally disassembled for either a
Power Flow or a Top Overhaul the cost of reassembly and disassembly by my
AME to do them separately would be duplicated. I bit the bullet to get the
most performance with the least cost and hopefully minimize down time and
AME time. I still ran into unexpected costs ($900) customs and duties (US
to Can) for the Powerflow (new parts).
I still have the prop and hopefully wheel pants to be completed but then
I'm done, it still comes down to economics.
Andrew
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On 2014-01-04, at 1:54 PM, Darren Tilman <darren@powerflowsystems.com>
wrote:
Barry,
I agree and that is what I said. See first sentence of my original
posting. I didn=92t mention cylinder heads, I said Cylinders.
Darren Tilman
General Manager
Power Flow Systems, Inc.
386.253.8833
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Darren:
On Lycoming & Continental engines you must remove the baffling to remove
the cylinders, to access the piston. These engines are not like car
engines, there are no cylinder heads. To access the pistons you must pull
the cylinders and the baffles have to be removed to do that.
Barry
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On Saturday, January 4, 2014, Darren Tilman wrote:
darren@powerflowsystems.com <javascript:;>>
George,
Unless you are in need of a top overhaul, why pull off your baffles, pull
the cylinders, change pistons and go through the process for the HC before
the exhaust? The Power Flow exhaust WILL give you more power at all
altitudes- guaranteed - and will work just fine with the HC. You can test
and verify the additional power without doing anything that isn't easily
reversible on the ground if you are a traveler below s/n 641. You do a ful
l
power ground run-up with the cowling removed and stock exhaust. Record the
peak RPM with a digital tachometer (get fuel flow as well if you have that)
.
Change the exhaust and repeat the test. You should see instantly additiona
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power - typical for your aircraft is about 50-75 RPM on the ground, up to
130 in the air.
Once you have confirmed that you see this additional power, make the small
changes to the cowling for the PFS (depends on which version you want -
short stack versus long external classic) and then go fly and see the
results in flight. The PFS will work with the HC mod and a different prop
but Barry's point is valid - do the prop last. The PFS has a money back
guarantee and you would KNOW how much additional RPM you are seeing within
about 3-4 hours of labor by just swapping the exhaust.
Many of our customers considering the HC versus the PFS do the PFS and then
decide to not do the HC until they are in for overhaul which is when the
incremental dollars to do the upgrade are relatively small as the engine is
apart at that point already.
Consider also the other benefits the PFS will provide and many of them are
similar to the HC, but the HC only gets you up to 10 HP worth of gains,
where the PFS could provide nearly double the gains of the HC with much
better fuel economy at current RPMs (savings of 0.5 to 2.2 GPH).
If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me.
Thank you,
Darren Tilman
General Manager
Power Flow Systems, Inc.
386.253.8833
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| Subject: | Re: Traveller Exhaust |
There is a trick pitch you can do that helps both climb and cruise. If you g
et the Sensenich prop and your plane is light with a strong engine, you can d
o a 63-62-61 pitch. I did a 74 Traveler in 2004 that would true at 137 knot
s.
The engine had 1500 hours. But, it also had ports and polished high compres
sion cylinders prepared by LyCon.
Buried antennas.
Converted to Cheetah sumps, gear leg fairings
Wheel fairings.
Gary
Sent from my iPad
> On Jan 5, 2014, at 6:04 AM, Andrew Kuzyk <andrew@entro.com> wrote:
>
> Hi George,
>
> That is the thing I did not do since the prop was recertified the year bef
ore. I would like to make that change or at least have the prop re pitched.
>
> Andrew
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 2014-01-03, at 11:35 PM, George Douglas <george@oilhelp.com> wrote:
>>
>> I plan to do the HC mod first on my traveler and see how that helps and t
hen a prop and the power flow will be last. Did you install a different prop
?
>> George
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Jan 3, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Andrew Kuzyk <andrew@entro.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi George,
>>>
>>> I did a bunch of things at the same time (top overhaul with high compres
sion pistons plus the Powerflow) so I did see a significant performance incr
ease but I can't say what is attributable to what. It certainly sounds more
sinister.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrew Kuzyk BID, ACIDO, RGD // Partner
>>> T: 416-368-6988 x 222
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Entro Communications and Gottschalk+Ash
>>>
>>> Please note our new address:
>>> 33 Harbour Square, Suite 202, Toronto, Canada M5J 2G2
>>> entro.com
>>>
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>>>
>>>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 5:58 PM, George Douglas <George@oilhelp.com> wrote:
>>>>
p.com>
>>>>
>>>> Andrew, did the powerflow help with any performance improvements?
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> George Douglas
>>>> Amsoil Distributor
>>>> office 407-856-1564
>>>> toll free 800-887-6698
>>>> cell 321-663-5391
>>>> www.oilhelp.com
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com
>>>> [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andre
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>>>> Kuzyk
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 4:45 PM
>>>> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
>>>> Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Traveller Exhaust
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I recently replaced my stock Traveller 0-320 exhaust with the Powerflow
>>>> exhaust system and was hoping to sell my old system for $250.
>>>>
>>>> If you are interested, please drop me a line. Also I am interested in
>>>> purchasing wheel pants along with the required mounting brackets and su
ch.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>> 416 706 4490
>>>>
>>>>
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