---------------------------------------------------------- TeamGrumman-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 02/22/14: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:02 PM - Re: here's a new one (n32romeo@AOL.COM) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:02:08 PM PST US Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: here's a new one From: n32romeo@AOL.COM A vernier mixture cable is the way to go. The cable is much thicker, and is an alternate means of compliance on the AA-1 500 hour replacement AD. I like the fine tuning adjustment it provides, and on shutdown, I screw it o ut till the engine quits and watch for the tach rise. Rich -----Original Message----- From: Gary L Vogt Sent: Fri, Feb 21, 2014 7:27 pm Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: here's a new one Good point, Barry. I'll have to see just how I pull the mixture to IDLE cu toff. I don't know off hand. On Friday, February 21, 2014 7:39 AM, "Hosler, John" w rote: Got it! From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman -list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of FLYaDIVE Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 8:07 AM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: here's a new one John & Team: Here is an unusual thing... Ever notice how a pilot handles the Throttle C ontrol? Usually it is very gently - Nice smooth actions, in and out. BUT! Then watch the way the same pilot handles the Mixture Control. Sure they adjust the Mixture nice and smooth. BUT! Watch them Pull, Yank and Slam t he Mixture Control OUT when they shut off the Engine/Mixture. WHY! Why no t slowly and gently pull it out? And watch the Tach at the same time... Y ou should see a 50 RPM increase just before the engine dies. Doing it this way you do not abuse the cable and the 50 RPM increase is one of the indic ations you have the Carb Adjusted correctly. Some things you do fast and s ome things you do slow and gentle. It's like making love. Barry On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Hosler, John wrote: Thanks, I used to have a mechanic that checked the cable every annual as a matter of course (and we did change the cable once =93not sure why. The bending of the end of the cable at the attachment always seemed to me t o be the weak point. From:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman- list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of boxereighty@AOL.COM Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 11:10 AM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: here's a new one John: Here is a link to the AD: http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAD.nsf/AOCADSearch/650 EF5216513544186256A38005DF83B?OpenDocument Here is the AD info: Amendment 39-2180; AD 75-09-07 Barry On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Hosler, John wrote: What is the AD on the cables? John *From:*owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *FLYaDIVE *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2014 3:51 PM *To:*teamgrumman-list@matronics.com *Subject:* Re: TeamGrumman-List: here's a new one I guess that is why the AD on the cables. Why hasn't the AD covered the AA5x series? Better on the ground that in the air and consider how difficult the FAA would have made your life if there was an accident! Barry On Tuesday, February 18, 2014, Gary L Vogt wrote: I had just finished setting the mixture on a FWF restoration I'm doing on N28819. You can see a lot of pics of it on the AuCountry Aviation Facebook page. When I pulled out the mixture to check one last time to make sure the mixture went to cutoff, the cable broke. That has never happened before. ============== TeamGrumman-List Email Forum - : p> /o:p> >gator?TeamGrumman-List"> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List ======= ======= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - /o:p>http://forums.matronics.com ====== ======== - List Contribution Web Site -pre> -Matt Dralle, List Admin.ribution"> http://www.matronics.com/contribution ============ The same thing happened to me at the end of a flight in my AA1C. My A&P (ne w to me at the time) said there was an AD on it but that was secondary, the mixture control obviously had to be replaced since it was broken, AD or no t so I didn't research the point. At the time the plane had in the vicinity of 1000hrs TT =C2=B1. So I think the rumors of an improved bracket on 1C m odels negating the AD might be overstated. The AD (from the above link) was published and amended in 1975 which was two years before the C model came to market. Maybe the cable really was improved so was never added to the A D, I'm not going to research it now, but quite obviously based on my experi ence the cable was still susceptible to breakage after very low time in ser vice. Even on an AA1C. I put a vernier mixture control on the Lynx and neve r had another problem in the next 10 years until I sold it. Brent Smith N28386/1N1 ============= eamGrumman-List Email Forum - u> > tor?TeamGrumman-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator? 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