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1. 12:53 AM - Re: Garmin Pilot v. Foreflight (Gary L Vogt)
2. 08:43 AM - Cheetha or Tiger (Stefan Lang)
3. 10:23 AM - Re: Cheetha or Tiger (Chris Sims)
4. 10:48 AM - Re: Garmin Pilot v. Foreflight (Mark MacDonald)
5. 01:17 PM - Re: Cheetha or Tiger (Chris Sims)
6. 04:34 PM - Re: Cheetha or Tiger (Claude Allen)
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin Pilot v. Foreflight |
I guess you can tell I never file flight plans.
Gary
Sent from my iPad
> On Dec 24, 2014, at 9:12 PM, Jim Parker <Jim@PoogieBearRanch.com> wrote:
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>
> Gary,
>
> FYI, in ForeFlight, after you fill out the flight plan on the "maps" page (either
via the command line entry or by tapping and rubber-banding), you can use
the "send to" icon (the one that looks like a box with an upward-pointing arrow)
to either email someone a copy of your plan, OR to send that plan to the "file
and brief" page. So you do not have to re-key anything you've previously
entered on the maps page, as you reported in your review. Makes it really easy!
>
> Jim Parker
> Sent from my iPad Mini
>
>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 10:56 PM, Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman@AOL.COM> wrote:
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>> I recently got a subscription to Garmin Pilot and had the chance to use them
side by side while my wife drove on a long cross country drive.
>>
>> Things happen slowly while driving and it gave me a good opportunity to use
both the Garmin Pilot and Foreflight for the same operation at about the same
location on the ground.
>>
>> I wrote down my experiences and sent them to Aviation Consumer.
>>
>> Attached is what I wrote.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> <Garmin.v.ForeFlight_03.pdf>
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| Subject: | Cheetha or Tiger |
Hello everyone,
I am from Austria and plan to buy me a Grumman.
Now arises only you question whether a "Tiger" or "Cheetha" ???
The home airfield would a grass runway, with 1600ft length have (this is grass
runway fastened with plastic sheets)
I would be the takeoff and climb performance interest.
The aircraft would be operated max loaded with 2 people. And with fuel for max
3-4 hours.
Can you give me to provide information which take-off distance required approximately
and with how many ft / min, the aircraft then rises.
with best regards
and a Happy New Year
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| Subject: | Re: Cheetha or Tiger |
I fly a Tiger that could fly out of a 1600 ft field at 2400 pounds but that
is very short for most airplanes. The Cheetah would probably need the 160
hp STC minimum. You can download a Pilot Operating Handbook for free if
you search. Look on American Yankee Association website.
Chris
On Thursday, December 25, 2014, Stefan Lang <stefan.lang@gmx.at> wrote:
> <javascript:;>>
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> Hello everyone,
>
> I am from Austria and plan to buy me a Grumman.
>
> Now arises only you question whether a "Tiger" or "Cheetha" ???
>
>
> The home airfield would a grass runway, with 1600ft length have (this is
> grass runway fastened with plastic sheets)
>
> I would be the takeoff and climb performance interest.
>
> The aircraft would be operated max loaded with 2 people. And with fuel for
> max 3-4 hours.
>
> Can you give me to provide information which take-off distance required
> approximately and with how many ft / min, the aircraft then rises.
>
> with best regards
> and a Happy New Year
>
>
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| Subject: | Garmin Pilot v. Foreflight |
Gary was looking for a solution to update the IPAD from a Garmin product.
Garmin has done it with the Flight Stream 210. It allows you to sync flight
plans between an IPAD and the GTN 750/650 or GNS 430W/530W series
navigators. The only problem is the Flight Stream connectivity works with
just Garmin Pilot. Like Gary, I find Foreflight easy to use and accomplish
everything I need for flight planning very easily. Garmin Pilot is just not
intuitive. Gary's comments about Garmin Pilot are right on, it is just not
as easy to use, especially in the cockpit.
I am disappointed, I have ADS-B traffic and weather on the screen in the
panel, but it would be nice to have it linked via Bluetooth to the IPAD.
If I want to use Foreflight, that means purchasing a Stratus II, which means
I have to enter the flight plan information twice, once in the IPAD and
again Garmin unit. I can have the same flight info in both the panel and
IPAD, but have to use Garmin Pilot. The cost is higher for the Garmin's
Flight Stream when you include both the unit to add and the installation
costs. For now, I plan to continue using Foreflight and am considering
buying the Stratus II.
Amazing I am not satisfied when the technology today gives us more
information in flight and for planning and it takes so much less time than
just 5 or 10 years ago.
To check out Garmin's connectivity with IPAD go the
"https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/in-the-air/avionics-safety/sat-comm/flight-
stream-110-210/prod153681.html"
Mark MacDonald
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| Subject: | Re: Cheetha or Tiger |
http://www.flyslipstream.com/Grumman_Cheetah_AA-5A_POH.pdf
This is an AA5A POH. Page 5-14 has take off data and Figure 5-14 has
landing data.
On Thursday, December 25, 2014, Chris Sims <hcsims1@gmail.com> wrote:
> I fly a Tiger that could fly out of a 1600 ft field at 2400 pounds but
> that is very short for most airplanes. The Cheetah would probably need the
> 160 hp STC minimum. You can download a Pilot Operating Handbook for free
> if you search. Look on American Yankee Association website.
>
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Thursday, December 25, 2014, Stefan Lang <stefan.lang@gmx.at
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','stefan.lang@gmx.at');>> wrote:
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>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I am from Austria and plan to buy me a Grumman.
>>
>> Now arises only you question whether a "Tiger" or "Cheetha" ???
>>
>>
>> The home airfield would a grass runway, with 1600ft length have (this is
>> grass runway fastened with plastic sheets)
>>
>> I would be the takeoff and climb performance interest.
>>
>> The aircraft would be operated max loaded with 2 people. And with fuel
>> for max 3-4 hours.
>>
>> Can you give me to provide information which take-off distance required
>> approximately and with how many ft / min, the aircraft then rises.
>>
>> with best regards
>> and a Happy New Year
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Cheetha or Tiger |
I routinely fly my Tiger out of a 2600 ft grass field with no problems but d
on't know how comfortable I would be on 1600 ft. Landing on such a short fie
ld with even just a moderate crosswind would probably send my pucker factor u
p a few notches.
Claude from my iPhone 6 plus
> On Dec 25, 2014, at 16:17, Chris Sims <hcsims1@gmail.com> wrote:
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> http://www.flyslipstream.com/Grumman_Cheetah_AA-5A_POH.pdf
>
> This is an AA5A POH. Page 5-14 has take off data and Figure 5-14 has lan
ding data.
>
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>
>
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>> On Thursday, December 25, 2014, Chris Sims <hcsims1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I fly a Tiger that could fly out of a 1600 ft field at 2400 pounds but th
at is very short for most airplanes. The Cheetah would probably need the 16
0 hp STC minimum. You can download a Pilot Operating Handbook for free if y
ou search. Look on American Yankee Association website.
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Thursday, December 25, 2014, Stefan Lang <stefan.lang@gmx.at> wrote:
t>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> I am from Austria and plan to buy me a Grumman.
>>>
>>> Now arises only you question whether a "Tiger" or "Cheetha" ???
>>>
>>>
>>> The home airfield would a grass runway, with 1600ft length have (this is
grass runway fastened with plastic sheets)
>>>
>>> I would be the takeoff and climb performance interest.
>>>
>>> The aircraft would be operated max loaded with 2 people. And with fuel f
or max 3-4 hours.
>>>
>>> Can you give me to provide information which take-off distance required a
pproximately and with how many ft / min, the aircraft then rises.
>>>
>>> with best regards
>>> and a Happy New Year
>>>
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