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1. 12:12 AM - Fw: N28797 (Gary L Vogt)
2. 07:30 AM - Re: Fw: N28797 (Dj Merrill)
3. 07:47 AM - Re: TeamGrumman-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 08/05/15 (Todd Halliday)
4. 12:23 PM - Re: Re: TeamGrumman-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 08/05/15 (Gary L Vogt)
5. 12:26 PM - Re: Fw: N28797 (Gary L Vogt)
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How is this for bullshit?
I worked my ass of on this plane. The estimate did not include all of the p
arts I ended up buying in order to complete the installation of the EDM 900,
which I sold to them at COST. I also sold them all new Lycoming cylinders p
orted and polished cylinders at COST. I also discounted them over $2000 off
the final bill.
Gary
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> From: David Troup <david@troup.net>
> Date: August 5, 2015 at 10:15:10 PM PDT
> To: Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman@aol.com>
> Cc: Adam Eijdenberg <adam.eijdenberg@gmail.com>, Stefano Menti <menti.stef
ano@gmail.com>
> Subject: N28797
>
> Dear Gary,
>
> Thank you for completing our annual, top overhaul and installation of new e
ngine analyzer.
>
> As you know, the last written estimate that you provided us, titled
=9CEstimate to complete=9D (emailed to me on June 24th) shows a total c
harge of $25,214.27.
>
> As you also know, the final invoice (emailed to me on July 22nd) shows as t
otal charge of $31,137.00.
>
> The partners have met, and have agreed to the following in the spirit of m
oving forward and resolving this:
>
> AuCountry Aviation reissue the final invoice to match the amounts shown on
the last received written estimate to show a total charge of $25,214.27, an
d amount outstanding of $8500.80 and send this via return email.
>
> Pacific Crest Ventures (our partnership) writes a check to AuCountry Aviat
ion for $8500.80 and at a mutually agreeable time Stefano, Adam or I will co
me to Auburn to present the check and pick up the plane, its contents, its s
igned-off logbooks for the annual and all work done, and a box containing al
l replaced instruments and/or avionics including but not limited to the old H
SI, the old engine analyzer, fuel totalizer, and all others.
>
> We will then consider the matter entirely resolved. We realize this is le
ss than you want for the effort you have put into this. The amount we are p
roposing is also far more than we were expecting to pay for the net result a
chieved. However, we are willing at this point to honor your =9CEstim
ate to complete=9D (which as you know was prepared last month after th
e earlier confusion) in the spirit of resolving this. As you know, no indic
ation was given to us that additional work on top of this estimate was neede
d.
>
> We have had a good business relationship over years - and truly hope we ca
n each put this behind us so that we may continue to work together in the fu
ture.
>
> We look forward to receiving your revised invoice so that we can move forw
ard with payment and collecting our plane
>
> Kind regards,
>
> David
>
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Hi Gary,
Did you mean to send this to the entire mailing list?
Obviously there is a lot that is left out of context from this single
message, but I don't understand how the numbers 25,214.27, 8500.80, and
31,137.00 relate to one another. My guess is that they must have paid
part of the bill already, and the 8500.80 is the 25214.27 minus the
amount that they've already paid, leaving $5923 "unpaid" from your view.
As a side comment from a customer perspective, if a business gave me an
estimate of $25k for work, and then presented me with a $31k bill with
no indication of the difference in between those two events, I'd be
pretty upset. If the while doing the work, the cost looks like it will
exceed the original estimate, I would expect the business to call me and
let me know before proceeding further. I don't know if this helps, but
I am offering it for your consideration.
-Dj
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Please remove my name from this mailing list or tell me how to unsubscribe.
Thank
Todd
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you do it the same way you signed up. go to AuCountry.com
<http://aucountry.com/>, click on TeamGrumman. It=99s on that
page.
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No, I didnt mean this to go to the entire list.
They have paid a portion. He wanted an estimate to complete and so I gave him
an estimate off the top of my head. It didnt include a lot of parts and repairing
his intercom. My estimate was also low because Id never installed an EDM
900 before and it took more time than I expected. I worked on this plane everyday
for 6 weeks. Including Saturdays and Sundays.
Sorry for the post.
> On Aug 6, 2015, at 7:29 AM, Dj Merrill <deej@deej.net> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Gary,
> Did you mean to send this to the entire mailing list?
>
> Obviously there is a lot that is left out of context from this single
> message, but I don't understand how the numbers 25,214.27, 8500.80, and
> 31,137.00 relate to one another. My guess is that they must have paid
> part of the bill already, and the 8500.80 is the 25214.27 minus the
> amount that they've already paid, leaving $5923 "unpaid" from your view.
>
> As a side comment from a customer perspective, if a business gave me an
> estimate of $25k for work, and then presented me with a $31k bill with
> no indication of the difference in between those two events, I'd be
> pretty upset. If the while doing the work, the cost looks like it will
> exceed the original estimate, I would expect the business to call me and
> let me know before proceeding further. I don't know if this helps, but
> I am offering it for your consideration.
>
> -Dj
>
>
>
>
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