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1. 09:49 AM - Fw: Aircraft Spin Tests circa 1979 NASA Aeronautics and Space Report, Langley Resear (Ronald Millman)
2. 11:00 AM - Re: New (Free) Aviation App (gbrasch)
3. 05:55 PM - AA5B vs. AG5B (cannuck)
4. 06:14 PM - Re: AA5B vs. AG5B (Ken Kirk)
5. 06:16 PM - Re: AA5B vs. AG5B (Tom Branton)
6. 09:02 PM - Re: AA5B vs. AG5B (923te@att.net)
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| Subject: | Fwd: Aircraft Spin Tests circa 1979 NASA Aeronautics |
and Space Report, Langley Resear
I will forward this to a few pilots that
may not have seen this before.
(And for those who have seen this before:
remember Barry Schiff's reminder:
"Watch thy airspeed, lest the ground
arise and smite thee") Especially at low altitude.
Ron Millman.
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| Subject: | Re: New (Free) Aviation App |
Thank you iPhone users for waiting out the IOS 9 upgrade while the Airport Courtesy
Car app was down. The app is back up for all users and the layout and look
of the app has been upgraded also. The listings continue to grow, currently
at over 1,520, and approaches 25,000 launches. Please continue to send in listings
I have missed or corrections that need to be made and I will get right on
them. And if you use and like the app, please consider a small donation to help
with expenses, even the tip that you leave on the lunch counter is appreciated.
There are PayPal links on the app, and my mailing address is also listed
within the app. Glenn
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Glenn Brasch
RV-9A Flying
1952 Piper Tri-Pacer
Medevac Helicopter Pilot (Ret)
Tucson, Arizona
Owner, "Airport Courtesy Cars" Smart Phone App.
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At the risk of opening a can of worms, can anyone give me the real reasons why
AG5B aircraft are slower than AA5B? With my '77 Tiger, I could easily beat book
values, but many tell me the new airplanes just won't do that.
I am hopefully going to start shopping for another bird soon, and really wanted
the extra panel space and 24VDC electrics of the newer airframe, but NOT if it
is at the expense of reason #1 to own a Tiger.
Also, if slower as claimed, how much? Also, what remedies?
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AA1 and AA5B former (future?) owner
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| Subject: | Re: AA5B vs. AG5B |
AG5B Owner
Trying to figure out how fast a Tiger cruises is impossible. You have to
understand that folks tell less than the truth about their cruise speed
figures. Some folks boast really high cruise speeds but then later you
find out that they are flying above red line RPM or have significantly
modified the airplane. Prop pitch also makes a difference, do you want a
climb or a cruise. Do you have the port and flowed engine, do you have
the fancy muffler system... the list goes on and on.
I have given up on the subject.
My AG5B will cruise at 135 knots. I have the muffler, the port and
flowed but a climb prop. I suppose I could get a couple more or 3 knots
by going to a cruise prop.
On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 8:55 PM, cannuck <pmdolan@sasktel.net> wrote:
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> At the risk of opening a can of worms, can anyone give me the real reasons
> why AG5B aircraft are slower than AA5B? With my '77 Tiger, I could easily
> beat book values, but many tell me the new airplanes just won't do that.
>
> I am hopefully going to start shopping for another bird soon, and really
> wanted the extra panel space and 24VDC electrics of the newer airframe, but
> NOT if it is at the expense of reason #1 to own a Tiger.
>
> Also, if slower as claimed, how much? Also, what remedies?
>
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> AA1 and AA5B former (future?) owner
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=447679#447679
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Ken Kirk
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I cannot tell you the reason the AG5B is slower, just the real world results.
Before we bought the 2003 AG5B we had a 77 Tiger. It was indeed a faster aircraft.
The 2003 will cruise at about 125 knots all day long, certainly slower
than the 77 but not by any significant amount. For us, and your mileage may vary,
the advantages of the newer aircraft with state of the art avionics (at least
state of the art for ten years ago) and modern systems more than makes up
for a slower speed.
Tom and Kathy
N951TE
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab S
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From: cannuck <pmdolan@sasktel.net>
Subject: TeamGrumman-List: AA5B vs. AG5B
At the risk of opening a can of worms, can anyone give me the real reasons why
AG5B aircraft are slower than AA5B? With my '77 Tiger, I could easily beat book
values, but many tell me the new airplanes just won't do that.
I am hopefully going to start shopping for another bird soon, and really wanted
the extra panel space and 24VDC electrics of the newer airframe, but NOT if it
is at the expense of reason #1 to own a Tiger.
Also, if slower as claimed, how much? Also, what remedies?
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AA1 and AA5B former (future?) owner
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| Subject: | Re: AA5B vs. AG5B |
I've owned a couple '76 and a '02 Tiger. I don't think the AG is any slower. AG's
airspeed is lndicated in knots... Surely not but Could it be the number is
smaller because it's not in mph?
Other than that the AG's are most likely heavier and that could make them slower
On Oct 4, 2015, at 7:55 PM, cannuck <pmdolan@sasktel.net> wrote:
At the risk of opening a can of worms, can anyone give me the real reasons why
AG5B aircraft are slower than AA5B? With my '77 Tiger, I could easily beat book
values, but many tell me the new airplanes just won't do that.
I am hopefully going to start shopping for another bird soon, and really wanted
the extra panel space and 24VDC electrics of the newer airframe, but NOT if it
is at the expense of reason #1 to own a Tiger.
Also, if slower as claimed, how much? Also, what remedies?
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AA1 and AA5B former (future?) owner
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=447679#447679
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