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1. 03:56 AM - Re: Re: CGS Hawk Arrow II folding wing option upgrade?? (Malcolmbru@aol.com)
2. 05:04 AM - Re: CGS Hawk Arrow II folding wing option upgrade?? (grantr)
3. 06:18 AM - Re: powered parachute wing area vs fixed wing (Noel Loveys)
4. 05:41 PM - Re: Re: CGS Hawk Arrow II folding wing option upgrade?? (Reggie Deloach)
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| Subject: | Re: CGS Hawk Arrow II folding wing option upgrade?? |
TRY a kit fox they really are a nice plane . when I first started flying
I asked a Challenger owner if I could put his wing on a kolb Because I wanted
a up rite motor with the best soaring wing I could get. thear is a guy
building a folding option for a challenger as well. Chuck really cant promote
a
folding wing because they all will bend or poke a hole in something if they
are operated wrong. I cant think of a folding wing plane that has cables
running the flaps or ailerons. What good is a folding wing if it makes a plane
too wide for a trailer?or too unstable to role around in a hanger /because you
need something to hold the wing tip from dragging on the ground? malcolm
michigan
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| Subject: | Re: CGS Hawk Arrow II folding wing option upgrade?? |
Who makes the folding wing option for the challenger?
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| Subject: | powered parachute wing area vs fixed wing |
The shape of the wing.
If you have a cloth covered wing which has detached the cloth from the top
of the ribs it will balloon out like a PPC. This will cause a great loss of
lift, not to mention speed.
Noel
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| Subject: | Re: CGS Hawk Arrow II folding wing option upgrade?? |
RANS offers folding wings on the S-12XL. Having had several RANS
products (including the XL) I have never folded the wings. To fold them
is easy. To keep them from damage when folding is the problem! RANS will
tell you that folding is easy, securing is hard.
Kolb has been identified for may years as the "folding wing" flyer...
My current ultralight is a Rotax 277 powered MAX 103 (TEAM). There are
quick disconnects for the ailerons and four spring held pins hold the
wings on. If I just MUST remove the wings it takes 5 minutes. The rudder
and stab are bolted together and then to the airframe. This would take
time to remove, so I normally don't.
red :}
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[mailto:owner-ultralight-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of grantr
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 4:53 PM
Subject: Ultralight-List: Re: CGS Hawk Arrow II folding wing option
upgrade??
<grant_richardson25@yahoo.com>
Thanks Red,
As I said Chuck did call me back. He did not recommend the folding wing
option because its not any easier than taking the wings off plus the
wings can and do get damaged when being trailered with the folding wing.
He also said that the wings can be removed or attached in 20mins .
So it doesn't sound too bad. I think kolb says 10min fold time
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