---------------------------------------------------------- Ultralight-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 07/17/08: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:25 AM - Challenger long wing weight and ballance (kmccune) 2. 07:04 AM - Re: Challenger long wing weight and ballance (LarryMcFarland) 3. 12:51 PM - Re: Challenger long wing weight and ballance (kmccune) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:25:05 AM PST US Subject: Ultralight-List: Challenger long wing weight and ballance From: "kmccune" Hi guys, My buddy has built a long wing Challenger, he went for as light as possible so he does not have a fiberglass nose cone and the engine is a 503. I sat in front the other day and even when you push the nose down it popped back up. He says its designed around a about a 200 lb person and the min pilot weight from his W&B is 185. Well I know I'm not a heavy weight at 165 but it seems strange to me that an airplane that needs a pilot in the cabin in order to sit level would have this kind of a design goal. As it is if I want to fly it I'll have to wear a dive belt! I know too that with the engine running the front comes down. But it seems like it would not be very stable in the air like this unless you were 200lbs? Kevin -------- Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193323#193323 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:04:40 AM PST US From: LarryMcFarland Subject: Re: Ultralight-List: Challenger long wing weight and ballance Kevin, For that type of problem, the helicopters use a movable weight to compensate for the sensitive weight and balance. This would probably work for the Challenger as well. A bag of lead shot would do. Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com kmccune wrote: > > Hi guys, > My buddy has built a long wing Challenger, he went for as light as possible so he does not have a fiberglass nose cone and the engine is a 503. I sat in front the other day and even when you push the nose down it popped back up. He says its designed around a about a 200 lb person and the min pilot weight from his W&B is 185. Well I know I'm not a heavy weight at 165 but it seems strange to me that an airplane that needs a pilot in the cabin in order to sit level would have this kind of a design goal. As it is if I want to fly it I'll have to wear a dive belt! I know too that with the engine running the front comes down. But it seems like it would not be very stable in the air like this unless you were 200lbs? > > Kevin > > -------- > Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:51:26 PM PST US Subject: Ultralight-List: Re: Challenger long wing weight and ballance From: "kmccune" Oh man, I'll never live it down! Thanks for the reply Larry! Kevin -------- Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193448#193448 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message ultralight-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Ultralight-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/ultralight-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/ultralight-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.