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1. 09:55 AM - Re: Challenger long wing weight and ballance (Gary Gower)
2. 12:09 PM - Re: Challenger long wing weight and ballance (pj.ladd)
3. 01:35 PM - Re: Challenger long wing weight and ballance (kmccune)
4. 02:34 PM - Re: Challenger long wing weight and ballance (George Alexander)
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| Subject: | Re: Challenger long wing weight and ballance |
Kevin,
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Is VERY IMPORTANT- to have the correct weight and balance in any airplane
,- Check closely with the manuals (or call the kit factory)- about the
envelope.--- But any weight and bamance that is- AFT- outside par
amenters- is very dangerous--- a- potencial- danger of-accide
ntal stall and or spin.-- Worse in low altitude as when you are ready t
o land.
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Get it check until satisfied- before atempting to fly it.
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Saludos
Gary Gower
Flying from Chapala, Mexico.
--- On Thu, 7/17/08, kmccune <kmccune@somtel.net> wrote:
From: kmccune <kmccune@somtel.net>
Subject: Ultralight-List: Challenger long wing weight and ballance
<kmccune@somtel.net>
Hi guys,
My buddy has built a long wing Challenger, he went for as light as possible
so
he does not have a fiberglass nose cone and the engine is a 503. I sat in f
ront
the other day and even when you push the nose down it popped back up. He sa
ys
its designed around a about a 200 lb person and the min pilot weight from h
is
W&B is 185. Well I know I'm not a heavy weight at 165 but it seems
strange to me that an airplane that needs a pilot in the cabin in order to
sit
level would have this kind of a design goal. As it is if I want to fly it
I'll have to wear a dive belt! I know too that with the engine running the
front comes down. But it seems like it would not be very stable in the air
like
this unless you were 200lbs?
Kevin
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| Subject: | Re: Challenger long wing weight and ballance |
when you push the nose down it popped back up>>
Hi,
this is standard on the Challenger. I ran mine in the UK for several years
and I always understood that the rule of thumb, not to take the place of a
proper weight and balance calc., was that if the nose was on the ground with
a pilot in and the engine running that weas good enough for jazz.
Mine was totally docile, would only mush when the nose was pulled up to a
stall amd would side slip like crazy.
My only problem was that the drive belt failed twice. It just shed its
teeth. Each time I put her down with no trouble
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Challenger long wing weight and ballance |
Yes it is, I have just never experienced one that needs a min pilot weight to
get the nose wheel to touch! It kinda freaked me out!
Kevin
[quote="ggower_99(at)yahoo.com"]Kevin,
Is VERY IMPORTANT to have the correct weight and balance in any airplane, Check
closely with the manuals (or call the kit factory) about the envelope.
But any weight and bamance that is AFT outside paramenters is very dangerous
a potencial danger of accidental stall and or spin. Worse in low altitude
as when you are ready to land.
Get it check until satisfied before atempting to fly it.
Saludos
Gary Gower
Flying from Chapala, Mexico.
--- On Thu, 7/17/08, kmccune wrote:
[quote]From: kmccune
Subject: Challenger long wing weight and ballance
> [b]
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Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that
you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover.
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| Subject: | Re: Challenger long wing weight and ballance |
A member of the USUA club I used to belong to, flew a QS Sprint. It took: a 20#
dive belt around her waist, 10# exercise weights on each ankle and 30#'s of
shot in the overstuffed seat cushion she used to get to the recommended pilot
weight of 170#. (I think I remember the numbers... If not exact, they are very
close.)
The attached image is of her in flight.... the only obvious thing in this image
is how high she is sitting. (Considering that she is about 5 feet nothing tall.)
kmccune wrote:
> Yes it is, I have just never experienced one that needs a min pilot weight to
get the nose wheel to touch! It kinda freaked me out!
>
>
> (((((SNIP))))
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George Alexander
FS II R503 N709FS
http://gtalexander.home.att.net
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