XDP4000X-List Digest Archive

Thu 02/27/03


Total Messages Posted: 12



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     1. 03:34 AM - Re: Signal converter (Daniel Botelho)
     2. 06:10 AM - Re: Signal converter (Eli A.)
     3. 06:46 AM - Re: Signal converter (Eli A.)
     4. 08:16 AM - Re: Signal converter (owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com)
     5. 08:18 AM - Re: Signal converter (owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com)
     6. 09:12 AM - Sony XES (Scott Walters)
     7. 09:26 AM - Re: Signal converter (Eli A.)
     8. 10:21 AM - Re: Signal converter (Roland M)
     9. 11:11 AM - Re: Signal converter (owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com)
    10. 11:13 AM - Re: Signal converter (owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com)
    11. 09:17 PM - Re: Signal converter (owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com)
    12. 09:31 PM - Re: Signal converter (owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:34:03 AM PST US
    From: Daniel Botelho <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
    Subject: Re: Signal converter
    --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Daniel Botelho <dbotel6500@rogers.com> Dan is correct... The connection is NOT a coaxial conection, but a propritery miniplug/coaxial converter to a toslink jack... The part number is XA-D211 or XA-D212. Usually can be had for $50bux canadian Daniel NOTGSXR@aol.com wrote: >--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: NOTGSXR@aol.com > >I believe you need the sony adapter as it is not just an optical coaxial >converter..... the part # for the part you need is XA-D211 or XA-D210 the >211 is the newer model........ help us here guys :) > >Dan > > > >


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    Time: 06:10:18 AM PST US
    From: "Eli A." <ea62@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Signal converter
    --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Eli A." <ea62@msn.com> As Dan said, the XA-D210/211 is theadaptor that Sony sells and uses for the coax. to optical conversion. I don't know the schematics of the adaptor, but some how it converts the coax signal into electrical optical. I don't think anything else will work. I believe they sell for $30 to $40. Sometimes they can be on backorder. Eli Anthony Honda Sales Western Reserve Honda Motorcycles <A href="http://www.westernreservecycles.com/">http://www.westernreservecycles.com (440) 974-9600 From: NOTGSXR@aol.com Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Signal converter -- XDP4000X-List message posted by: NOTGSXR@aol.com I believe you need the sony adapter as it is not just an optical coaxial converter..... the part # for the part you need is XA-D211 or XA-D210 the 211 is the newer model........ help us here guys :) Dan


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    Time: 06:46:28 AM PST US
    From: "Eli A." <ea62@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Signal converter
    --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Eli A." <ea62@msn.com> My mistake, no coax.connection, just an electrical to optical converter. Eli Anthony Honda Sales Western Reserve Honda Motorcycles <A href="http://www.westernreservecycles.com/">http://www.westernreservecycles.com (440) 974-9600 From: NOTGSXR@aol.com Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Signal converter -- XDP4000X-List message posted by: NOTGSXR@aol.com I believe you need the sony adapter as it is not just an optical coaxial converter..... the part # for the part you need is XA-D211 or XA-D210 the 211 is the newer model........ help us here guys :) Dan


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    Time: 08:16:10 AM PST US
    From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
    Subject: Re: Signal converter
    --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: I know that I should get the XA-D210, 211 or 212; but here it is impossible to find them and wanted to know if it is posible to use, somehow, the unit I managed to get. Please, Matt or anyone with knowledge about its schematics give me some help here. Thanks a lot for your quick inputs. -Edu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Botelho" <dbotel6500@rogers.com> Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Signal converter --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Daniel Botelho <dbotel6500@rogers.com> Dan is correct... The connection is NOT a coaxial conection, but a propritery miniplug/coaxial converter to a toslink jack... The part number is XA-D211 or XA-D212. Usually can be had for $50bux canadian Daniel NOTGSXR@aol.com wrote: >--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: NOTGSXR@aol.com > >I believe you need the sony adapter as it is not just an optical coaxial >converter..... the part # for the part you need is XA-D211 or XA-D210 the >211 is the newer model........ help us here guys :) > >Dan > >


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    Time: 08:18:40 AM PST US
    From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
    Subject: Re: Signal converter
    --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Besides, how many contacts does it have in addition to the ground? -Edu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Botelho" <dbotel6500@rogers.com> Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Signal converter --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Daniel Botelho <dbotel6500@rogers.com> Dan is correct... The connection is NOT a coaxial conection, but a propritery miniplug/coaxial converter to a toslink jack... The part number is XA-D211 or XA-D212. Usually can be had for $50bux canadian Daniel NOTGSXR@aol.com wrote: >--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: NOTGSXR@aol.com > >I believe you need the sony adapter as it is not just an optical coaxial >converter..... the part # for the part you need is XA-D211 or XA-D210 the >211 is the newer model........ help us here guys :) > >Dan > >


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    Time: 09:12:52 AM PST US
    From: Scott Walters <scott@packetpushers.com>
    Subject: Sony XES
    --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Scott Walters <scott@packetpushers.com> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3010213795&category=3293 I went down to 'the' high-end car audio place outside of philly to audition some dyn's and they informed me they had this. I just saw and heard it yesterday, so it's no joke, they are legit. This gear is on a whole nother level from anything I have ever seen/heard for car audio. It's not real clear in the ad, but it's the head unit, changer/processor, tweeter/mid pair, 3 dual monoblock amps, and 2 subs. -- Scott Walters -PacketPusher


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    Time: 09:26:19 AM PST US
    From: "Eli A." <ea62@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Signal converter
    --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Eli A." <ea62@msn.com> Sony has them in stock. <A href="http://servicesales.sel.sony.com/">http://servicesales.sel.sony.com/ Eli Anthony Honda Sales Western Reserve Honda Motorcycles <A href="http://www.westernreservecycles.com/">http://www.westernreservecycles.com (440) 974-9600 From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Signal converter -- XDP4000X-List message posted by: I know that I should get the XA-D210, 211 or 212; but here it is impossible to find them and wanted to know if it is posible to use, somehow, the unit I managed to get. Please, Matt or anyone with knowledge about its schematics give me some help here. Thanks a lot for your quick inputs. -Edu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Botelho" <DBOTEL6500@ROGERS.COM> Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Signal converter -- XDP4000X-List message posted by: Daniel Botelho <DBOTEL6500@ROGERS.COM> Dan is correct... The connection is NOT a coaxial conection, but a propritery miniplug/coaxial converter to a toslink jack... The part number is XA-D211 or XA-D212. Usually can be had for $50bux canadian Daniel NOTGSXR@aol.com wrote: -- XDP4000X-List message posted by: NOTGSXR@aol.com I believe you need the sony adapter as it is not just an optical coaxial converter..... the part # for the part you need is XA-D211 or XA-D210 the 211 is the newer model........ help us here guys :) Dan


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    Time: 10:21:43 AM PST US
    From: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Signal converter
    --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com> >--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Eli A." <ea62@msn.com> > > >As Dan said, the XA-D210/211 is theadaptor that Sony sells and uses for the >coax. to optical conversion. I don't know the schematics of the adaptor, >but some how it converts the coax signal into electrical optical. I don't >think anything else will work. I believe they sell for $30 to $40. >Sometimes they can be on backorder. > > >Eli Anthony Yep, indeed the D210/D211 is the part like everyone said. I'm pretty sure the format of the digital signal is coax S/PDIF but in a non-standard connector... The XA-D211 is too small to be converting the signal from anything else but electrical S/PDIF (coax) to optical (Toslink). For the person interested the D210/211 has a miniplug with 3 "lines" (creating 4 contact points) plus a grounding "ring" like the outer sheild of an RCA cable. I THINK that is right, or maybe it was a 2 "line" miniplug? The reason for all the contacts is simple and the conversion process is just a regular coax--->optical conversion, I'm pretty sure. The optical emitter in the adapter needs power, so it gets something like +5V for that signal and there are two grounds if I recall correctly from the service manual (I had to do a small fix on the optical out board on my MDX-400 as the connector to the main board had some of its solder points damaged). Anyhow I think there are two grounds (actually I guess 3 if you count the sheild?) and then there is the digital signal and +5V for the emitter. The thing is I don't know how they correspond to the the points on the miniplug part of the adapter :( As another note, I'm not quite sure why they changed the model from the D210 to the D211 (I don't know what change/"fix" there was) but mine is a D210 and it works fine. Roland M.


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    Time: 11:11:23 AM PST US
    From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
    Subject: Re: Signal converter
    --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Thanks Roland, now, can anybody tell me which of the "4 connecting points" on the plug is the S/PDIF signal? I think that I can manage to adapt it to my converter. -Edu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Signal converter --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com> >--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Eli A." <ea62@msn.com> > > >As Dan said, the XA-D210/211 is theadaptor that Sony sells and uses for the >coax. to optical conversion. I don't know the schematics of the adaptor, >but some how it converts the coax signal into electrical optical. I don't >think anything else will work. I believe they sell for $30 to $40. >Sometimes they can be on backorder. > > >Eli Anthony Yep, indeed the D210/D211 is the part like everyone said. I'm pretty sure the format of the digital signal is coax S/PDIF but in a non-standard connector... The XA-D211 is too small to be converting the signal from anything else but electrical S/PDIF (coax) to optical (Toslink). For the person interested the D210/211 has a miniplug with 3 "lines" (creating 4 contact points) plus a grounding "ring" like the outer sheild of an RCA cable. I THINK that is right, or maybe it was a 2 "line" miniplug? The reason for all the contacts is simple and the conversion process is just a regular coax--->optical conversion, I'm pretty sure. The optical emitter in the adapter needs power, so it gets something like +5V for that signal and there are two grounds if I recall correctly from the service manual (I had to do a small fix on the optical out board on my MDX-400 as the connector to the main board had some of its solder points damaged). Anyhow I think there are two grounds (actually I guess 3 if you count the sheild?) and then there is the digital signal and +5V for the emitter. The thing is I don't know how they correspond to the the points on the miniplug part of the adapter :( As another note, I'm not quite sure why they changed the model from the D210 to the D211 (I don't know what change/"fix" there was) but mine is a D210 and it works fine. Roland M.


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    Time: 11:13:46 AM PST US
    From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
    Subject: Re: Signal converter
    --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Thanks Eli -Edu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eli A." <ea62@msn.com> Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Signal converter --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Eli A." <ea62@msn.com> Sony has them in stock. <A href="http://servicesales.sel.sony.com/">http://servicesales.sel.sony.com/ Eli Anthony Honda Sales Western Reserve Honda Motorcycles <A href="http://www.westernreservecycles.com/">http://www.westernreservecycles. com (440) 974-9600 From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Signal converter -- XDP4000X-List message posted by: I know that I should get the XA-D210, 211 or 212; but here it is impossible to find them and wanted to know if it is posible to use, somehow, the unit I managed to get. Please, Matt or anyone with knowledge about its schematics give me some help here. Thanks a lot for your quick inputs. -Edu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Botelho" <DBOTEL6500@ROGERS.COM> Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Signal converter -- XDP4000X-List message posted by: Daniel Botelho <DBOTEL6500@ROGERS.COM> Dan is correct... The connection is NOT a coaxial conection, but a propritery miniplug/coaxial converter to a toslink jack... The part number is XA-D211 or XA-D212. Usually can be had for $50bux canadian Daniel NOTGSXR@aol.com wrote: -- XDP4000X-List message posted by: NOTGSXR@aol.com I believe you need the sony adapter as it is not just an optical coaxial converter..... the part # for the part you need is XA-D211 or XA-D210 the 211 is the newer model........ help us here guys :) Dan


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    Time: 09:17:59 PM PST US
    From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
    Subject: Re: Signal converter
    --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Anybody know if this "mini-plug" with 4 contacts is similar to the ones used to carry audio stereo (2 contacts plus ground) and video (one more contact using the same ground) in some portable DVD players, for example? I think that I can manage to find this plug in some Audio store. I could confirm that the ouside of the socket is the same ground connected on the inside (from the 4 contacts in the mini-plug, it is the same than the one which is closer to tha cable). Thanks guys -Edu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Signal converter --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com> >--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Eli A." <ea62@msn.com> > > >As Dan said, the XA-D210/211 is theadaptor that Sony sells and uses for the >coax. to optical conversion. I don't know the schematics of the adaptor, >but some how it converts the coax signal into electrical optical. I don't >think anything else will work. I believe they sell for $30 to $40. >Sometimes they can be on backorder. > > >Eli Anthony Yep, indeed the D210/D211 is the part like everyone said. I'm pretty sure the format of the digital signal is coax S/PDIF but in a non-standard connector... The XA-D211 is too small to be converting the signal from anything else but electrical S/PDIF (coax) to optical (Toslink). For the person interested the D210/211 has a miniplug with 3 "lines" (creating 4 contact points) plus a grounding "ring" like the outer sheild of an RCA cable. I THINK that is right, or maybe it was a 2 "line" miniplug? The reason for all the contacts is simple and the conversion process is just a regular coax--->optical conversion, I'm pretty sure. The optical emitter in the adapter needs power, so it gets something like +5V for that signal and there are two grounds if I recall correctly from the service manual (I had to do a small fix on the optical out board on my MDX-400 as the connector to the main board had some of its solder points damaged). Anyhow I think there are two grounds (actually I guess 3 if you count the sheild?) and then there is the digital signal and +5V for the emitter. The thing is I don't know how they correspond to the the points on the miniplug part of the adapter :( As another note, I'm not quite sure why they changed the model from the D210 to the D211 (I don't know what change/"fix" there was) but mine is a D210 and it works fine. Roland M.


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    Time: 09:31:24 PM PST US
    From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
    Subject: Re: Signal converter
    --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: >Anybody know if this "mini-plug" with 4 contacts is similar to the ones used >to carry audio stereo (2 contacts plus ground) and video (one more contact >using the same ground) in some portable DVD players, for example? Dont know if it was clear: I mean if this plug (the one on the XA-D210, 211 or 212) is similar to the miniplugs with 4 contacts used to connect some A/V devices. Thanks -Edu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Signal converter --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com> >--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Eli A." <ea62@msn.com> > > >As Dan said, the XA-D210/211 is theadaptor that Sony sells and uses for the >coax. to optical conversion. I don't know the schematics of the adaptor, >but some how it converts the coax signal into electrical optical. I don't >think anything else will work. I believe they sell for $30 to $40. >Sometimes they can be on backorder. > > >Eli Anthony Yep, indeed the D210/D211 is the part like everyone said. I'm pretty sure the format of the digital signal is coax S/PDIF but in a non-standard connector... The XA-D211 is too small to be converting the signal from anything else but electrical S/PDIF (coax) to optical (Toslink). For the person interested the D210/211 has a miniplug with 3 "lines" (creating 4 contact points) plus a grounding "ring" like the outer sheild of an RCA cable. I THINK that is right, or maybe it was a 2 "line" miniplug? The reason for all the contacts is simple and the conversion process is just a regular coax--->optical conversion, I'm pretty sure. The optical emitter in the adapter needs power, so it gets something like +5V for that signal and there are two grounds if I recall correctly from the service manual (I had to do a small fix on the optical out board on my MDX-400 as the connector to the main board had some of its solder points damaged). Anyhow I think there are two grounds (actually I guess 3 if you count the sheild?) and then there is the digital signal and +5V for the emitter. The thing is I don't know how they correspond to the the points on the miniplug part of the adapter :( As another note, I'm not quite sure why they changed the model from the D210 to the D211 (I don't know what change/"fix" there was) but mine is a D210 and it works fine. Roland M.




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