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1. 06:36 PM - Re: Sony XES (Doug Dobson)
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3. 07:37 PM - Re: Sony XES (Doug Dobson)
4. 10:03 PM - Re: Sony XES (Dremgragen .)
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Doug Dobson" <dougdobson@chartermi.net>
The system he is describing sounds like the Sony XES-Z50 with an original
system price of $16000. The setup is superior to the C-90/4000X, but not by
a lot. There are more bands of eq I believe, but otherwise this is the
system that the C-90/4000X setup is based on.
As a system it is a great setup. The amps are identical and are high
current. The subs have 1 ohm coils, the mids have 2 ohm coils and the
tweeters are 4 ohm, so using the same amps distributes the power quite well.
This is quite a nice system.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Sony XES
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>
> >--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "leo g. divinagracia iii"
> ><ldivinag@csuhayward.edu>
>
> >funny that they mention the 5 year warranty. is that from last time
> >sony actually shipped it or from when they sell it... lol.
> >
> >the processor and the head unit is probably what the c90/4000 combo is
> >now...
> >
> >--
> >Leo G. Divinagracia III
> >ldivinag@csuhayward.edu
>
> Actually in compliance with most warranty laws, I'm pretty sure that the
> warranty is valid from the date/time of sale onwards (provided it is
> purchased in accordance with requirements such as buying from a currently
> authourised dealer). So even a unit that went out of production a long
time
> ago and is sold at a dealer many years later the warranty would still be 5
> years from the date of purchase (provided that unit has never been sold
> before).
>
> As for the C90 + 4000X, I believe the 4000X may actually be a
> superior/updated processor (or maybe just a more versatile one?) in
> comparison to the XES processor (what is that called the "C1"?).
>
> Roland M.
>
>
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Dremgragen ." <dremgragen@hotmail.com>
Is the XES system with the component pieces labeled C1, D1, P1, etc.? Or was that
another XES system, separate from the Z50? I've heard that the Z50 system was
the best system ever made for car audio, hands down. I'd like to hear one.
From: "Doug Dobson" <DOUGDOBSON@CHARTERMI.NET>
Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Sony XES
-- XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Doug Dobson" <DOUGDOBSON@CHARTERMI.NET>
The system he is describing sounds like the Sony XES-Z50 with an original
system price of $16000. The setup is superior to the C-90/4000X, but not by
a lot. There are more bands of eq I believe, but otherwise this is the
system that the C-90/4000X setup is based on.
As a system it is a great setup. The amps are identical and are high
current. The subs have 1 ohm coils, the mids have 2 ohm coils and the
tweeters are 4 ohm, so using the same amps distributes the power quite well.
This is quite a nice system.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roland M" <MDX400@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Sony XES
-- XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <MDX400@HOTMAIL.COM>
-- XDP4000X-List message posted by: "leo g. divinagracia iii"
<LDIVINAG@CSUHAYWARD.EDU>
funny that they mention the 5 year warranty. is that from last time
sony actually shipped it or from when they sell it... lol.
the processor and the head unit is probably what the c90/4000 combo is
now...
--
Leo G. Divinagracia III
ldivinag@csuhayward.edu
Actually in compliance with most warranty laws, I'm pretty sure that the
warranty is valid from the date/time of sale onwards (provided it is
purchased in accordance with requirements such as buying from a currently
authourised dealer). So even a unit that went out of production a long
time
ago and is sold at a dealer many years later the warranty would still be 5
years from the date of purchase (provided that unit has never been sold
before).
As for the C90 + 4000X, I believe the 4000X may actually be a
superior/updated processor (or maybe just a more versatile one?) in
comparison to the XES processor (what is that called the "C1"?).
Roland M.
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Doug Dobson" <dougdobson@chartermi.net>
The Z-50 system was the new and improved version of the XES idea. It has
none of the surround capabilities of the original XES P-1, T-1, C-1, and X-1
combo, as they tended to take more time to adjust properly than most people
would EVER spend. Easily 100s of hours just on surround, after all eq and
crossover functions are set.
The Z-50 system is pure sound quality. Many scoffed at it with its $16,000
price tag, so eventually they sold just the processor and controller/changer
to be used with other amps and speakers. It, like the original setup had
almost no control on the display, all was done using remotes.
As far as the best system ever, I've never known anyone else to sell a
"whole" system, as far as electronics, this is definitely toward the top of
the list. Alpine's F-1 and Pioneer's ODR and P-9 systems are also up there
and a little more modern and logical to use. All have their high and low
points.
And for those of you who are really curious, I believe the Z-50 has the same
crossover points as the XDP-4000X.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dremgragen ." <dremgragen@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Sony XES
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Dremgragen ."
<dremgragen@hotmail.com>
>
>
> Is the XES system with the component pieces labeled C1, D1, P1, etc.? Or
was that another XES system, separate from the Z50? I've heard that the Z50
system was the best system ever made for car audio, hands down. I'd like to
hear one.
>
>
> From: "Doug Dobson" <DOUGDOBSON@CHARTERMI.NET>
> To: <XDP4000X-LIST@MATRONICS.COM>
> Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Sony XES
> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 21:35:42 -0500
>
> -- XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Doug Dobson"
<DOUGDOBSON@CHARTERMI.NET>
>
> The system he is describing sounds like the Sony XES-Z50 with an original
> system price of $16000. The setup is superior to the C-90/4000X, but not
by
> a lot. There are more bands of eq I believe, but otherwise this is the
> system that the C-90/4000X setup is based on.
>
> As a system it is a great setup. The amps are identical and are high
> current. The subs have 1 ohm coils, the mids have 2 ohm coils and the
> tweeters are 4 ohm, so using the same amps distributes the power quite
well.
>
> This is quite a nice system.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roland M" <MDX400@HOTMAIL.COM>
> To: <XDP4000X-LIST@MATRONICS.COM>
> Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Sony XES
>
>
> -- XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <MDX400@HOTMAIL.COM>
>
> -- XDP4000X-List message posted by: "leo g. divinagracia iii"
> <LDIVINAG@CSUHAYWARD.EDU>
>
> funny that they mention the 5 year warranty. is that from last time
> sony actually shipped it or from when they sell it... lol.
>
> the processor and the head unit is probably what the c90/4000 combo is
> now...
>
> --
> Leo G. Divinagracia III
> ldivinag@csuhayward.edu
>
> Actually in compliance with most warranty laws, I'm pretty sure that the
> warranty is valid from the date/time of sale onwards (provided it is
> purchased in accordance with requirements such as buying from a
currently
> authourised dealer). So even a unit that went out of production a long
> time
> ago and is sold at a dealer many years later the warranty would still be
5
> years from the date of purchase (provided that unit has never been sold
> before).
>
> As for the C90 + 4000X, I believe the 4000X may actually be a
> superior/updated processor (or maybe just a more versatile one?) in
> comparison to the XES processor (what is that called the "C1"?).
>
> Roland M.
>
>
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Dremgragen ." <dremgragen@hotmail.com>
Yeah, and for the money, C90/4kX is the best way to go IMO. The only setup I'd
rather have over the C90/4kX is the F#1 combo, but it's just insanely too much
money. I'd probably pay as much as $3000 for it, but $3000 for just the cost
of the head unit? No thanks. That's not worth saving up for, especially when,
after FINALLY having the money for the F#1 head unit, looking at the $4000 price
tag on the processor. Maybe some day when I have a real job making real money...
but making $6 an hour plus tips isn't nearly enough for me.
-Brody Z.
From: "Doug Dobson" <DOUGDOBSON@CHARTERMI.NET>
Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Sony XES
-- XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Doug Dobson" <DOUGDOBSON@CHARTERMI.NET>
The Z-50 system was the new and improved version of the XES idea. It has
none of the surround capabilities of the original XES P-1, T-1, C-1, and X-1
combo, as they tended to take more time to adjust properly than most people
would EVER spend. Easily 100s of hours just on surround, after all eq and
crossover functions are set.
The Z-50 system is pure sound quality. Many scoffed at it with its $16,000
price tag, so eventually they sold just the processor and controller/changer
to be used with other amps and speakers. It, like the original setup had
almost no control on the display, all was done using remotes.
As far as the best system ever, I've never known anyone else to sell a
"whole" system, as far as electronics, this is definitely toward the top of
the list. Alpine's F-1 and Pioneer's ODR and P-9 systems are also up there
and a little more modern and logical to use. All have their high and low
points.
And for those of you who are really curious, I believe the Z-50 has the same
crossover points as the XDP-4000X.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dremgragen ." <DREMGRAGEN@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Sony XES
-- XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Dremgragen ."
<DREMGRAGEN@HOTMAIL.COM>
Is the XES system with the component pieces labeled C1, D1, P1, etc.? Or
was that another XES system, separate from the Z50? I've heard that the Z50
system was the best system ever made for car audio, hands down. I'd like to
hear one.
From: "Doug Dobson" <DOUGDOBSON@CHARTERMI.NET>
To: <XDP4000X-LIST@MATRONICS.COM>
Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Sony XES
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 21:35:42 -0500
-- XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Doug Dobson"
<DOUGDOBSON@CHARTERMI.NET>
The system he is describing sounds like the Sony XES-Z50 with an original
system price of $16000. The setup is superior to the C-90/4000X, but not
by
a lot. There are more bands of eq I believe, but otherwise this is the
system that the C-90/4000X setup is based on.
As a system it is a great setup. The amps are identical and are high
current. The subs have 1 ohm coils, the mids have 2 ohm coils and the
tweeters are 4 ohm, so using the same amps distributes the power quite
well.
This is quite a nice system.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roland M" <MDX400@HOTMAIL.COM>
To: <XDP4000X-LIST@MATRONICS.COM>
Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Sony XES
-- XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <MDX400@HOTMAIL.COM>
-- XDP4000X-List message posted by: "leo g. divinagracia iii"
<LDIVINAG@CSUHAYWARD.EDU>
funny that they mention the 5 year warranty. is that from last time
sony actually shipped it or from when they sell it... lol.
the processor and the head unit is probably what the c90/4000 combo is
now...
--
Leo G. Divinagracia III
ldivinag@csuhayward.edu
Actually in compliance with most warranty laws, I'm pretty sure that the
warranty is valid from the date/time of sale onwards (provided it is
purchased in accordance with requirements such as buying from a
currently
authourised dealer). So even a unit that went out of production a long
time
ago and is sold at a dealer many years later the warranty would still be
5
years from the date of purchase (provided that unit has never been sold
before).
As for the C90 + 4000X, I believe the 4000X may actually be a
superior/updated processor (or maybe just a more versatile one?) in
comparison to the XES processor (what is that called the "C1"?).
Roland M.
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