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1. 08:21 AM - xt-u500v (ToR)
2. 09:12 AM - Re: Sony XES (Doug Dobson)
3. 04:02 PM - xt-u500v & RC71 (ToR)
4. 08:55 PM - Re: cdx-c90 vs. cdx-c90r (and more) (ToR)
5. 09:07 PM - Re: cdx-c90 vs. cdx-c90r (and more) (Daniel Botelho)
6. 09:11 PM - Re: cdx-c90 vs. cdx-c90r (and more) (Doug Dobson)
7. 09:25 PM - Re: cdx-c90 vs. cdx-c90r (and more) (Daniel Botelho)
8. 10:05 PM - Re: cdx-c90 vs. cdx-c90r (and more) (Doug Dobson)
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "ToR" <calculathor@hotmail.com>
Roland M,
Did you get your u500v to work
Is there any one here using it?
Does it do any graphic generation at all?
xt-u500v was produced at 91
xt-u400v was produced at 93
xt-40v was produced at 94
T.
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Doug Dobson" <dougdobson@chartermi.net>
The head unit is not really anything special. Use the C-90 for that with
the processor.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dremgragen ." <dremgragen@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Sony XES
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Dremgragen ."
<dremgragen@hotmail.com>
>
>
> Yeah, and for the money, C90/4kX is the best way to go IMO. The only setup
I'd rather have over the C90/4kX is the F#1 combo, but it's just insanely
too much money. I'd probably pay as much as $3000 for it, but $3000 for just
the cost of the head unit? No thanks. That's not worth saving up for,
especially when, after FINALLY having the money for the F#1 head unit,
looking at the $4000 price tag on the processor. Maybe some day when I have
a real job making real money... but making $6 an hour plus tips isn't nearly
enough for me.
>
>
> -Brody Z.
>
>
> From: "Doug Dobson" <DOUGDOBSON@CHARTERMI.NET>
> To: <XDP4000X-LIST@MATRONICS.COM>
> Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Sony XES
> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 22:37:23 -0500
>
> -- XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Doug Dobson"
<DOUGDOBSON@CHARTERMI.NET>
>
> The Z-50 system was the new and improved version of the XES idea. It has
> none of the surround capabilities of the original XES P-1, T-1, C-1, and
> combo, as they tended to take more time to adjust properly than most
people
> would EVER spend. Easily 100s of hours just on surround, after all eq and
> crossover functions are set.
>
> The Z-50 system is pure sound quality. Many scoffed at it with its $16,000
> price tag, so eventually they sold just the processor and
controller/changer
> to be used with other amps and speakers. It, like the original setup had
> almost no control on the display, all was done using remotes.
>
> As far as the best system ever, I've never known anyone else to sell a
> "whole" system, as far as electronics, this is definitely toward the top
of
> the list. Alpine's F-1 and Pioneer's ODR and P-9 systems are also up there
> and a little more modern and logical to use. All have their high and low
> points.
>
> And for those of you who are really curious, I believe the Z-50 has the
same
> crossover points as the XDP-4000X.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dremgragen ." <DREMGRAGEN@HOTMAIL.COM>
> To: <XDP4000X-LIST@MATRONICS.COM>
> Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Sony XES
>
>
> -- XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Dremgragen ."
> <DREMGRAGEN@HOTMAIL.COM>
>
>
> Is the XES system with the component pieces labeled C1, D1, P1, etc.? Or
> was that another XES system, separate from the Z50? I've heard that the
Z50
> system was the best system ever made for car audio, hands down. I'd like
to
> hear one.
>
>
> From: "Doug Dobson" <DOUGDOBSON@CHARTERMI.NET>
> To: <XDP4000X-LIST@MATRONICS.COM>
> Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Sony XES
> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 21:35:42 -0500
>
> -- XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Doug Dobson"
> <DOUGDOBSON@CHARTERMI.NET>
>
> The system he is describing sounds like the Sony XES-Z50 with an
original
> system price of $16000. The setup is superior to the C-90/4000X, but not
> by
> a lot. There are more bands of eq I believe, but otherwise this is the
> system that the C-90/4000X setup is based on.
>
> As a system it is a great setup. The amps are identical and are high
> current. The subs have 1 ohm coils, the mids have 2 ohm coils and the
> tweeters are 4 ohm, so using the same amps distributes the power quite
> well.
>
> This is quite a nice system.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roland M" <MDX400@HOTMAIL.COM>
> To: <XDP4000X-LIST@MATRONICS.COM>
> Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Sony XES
>
>
> -- XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <MDX400@HOTMAIL.COM>
>
> -- XDP4000X-List message posted by: "leo g. divinagracia iii"
> <LDIVINAG@CSUHAYWARD.EDU>
>
> funny that they mention the 5 year warranty. is that from last time
> sony actually shipped it or from when they sell it... lol.
>
> the processor and the head unit is probably what the c90/4000 combo is
> now...
>
> --
> Leo G. Divinagracia III
> ldivinag@csuhayward.edu
>
> Actually in compliance with most warranty laws, I'm pretty sure that the
> warranty is valid from the date/time of sale onwards (provided it is
> purchased in accordance with requirements such as buying from a
> currently
> authourised dealer). So even a unit that went out of production a long
> time
> ago and is sold at a dealer many years later the warranty would still be
> 5
> years from the date of purchase (provided that unit has never been sold
> before).
>
> As for the C90 + 4000X, I believe the 4000X may actually be a
> superior/updated processor (or maybe just a more versatile one?) in
> comparison to the XES processor (what is that called the "C1"?).
>
> Roland M.
>
>
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "ToR" <calculathor@hotmail.com>
Does anyone have the RC71 composite video converter cable for the
xt-u500v?
Can anyone send me a picture of it or tell me what it looks like?
Thanks
T.
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| Subject: | cdx-c90 vs. cdx-c90r (and more) |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "ToR" <calculathor@hotmail.com>
Radio broadcasting has differences between USA and Europe. Because of
that digitally tuning radios bought form USA do not work well in Europe
and in the other way around too.
North American FM broadcast channels are on multiples of odd 200KHz
frequencies: 99.5MHz, 100.1MHz, etc. In Europe, channels can be on any
multiple of 100KHz, even or odd.
also
FM stations in Europe use 75 microseconds pre-emphasis
FM stations in North America use 50 microseconds pre-emphasis
For AM, the difference is 10 kHz steps in the US vs. 9 kHz steps in
Europe.
This means that a digitally tuning radio from the USA will not tune
European stations properly. Frequency synthesizing tuners in Europe do
their actual tuning in shorter steps (for example 25 kHz).
For program type information
Europe uses RDS - Radio Data System; developed by European Broadcasting
Union (EBU)
US uses RBDS - Radio Broadcast Data System; developed by National Radio
Systems Committee (NRSC)
For digital/satellite radio
US uses XM
Europe uses DAB
Sony has DAB-100 Unilink DAB tuner (~$1100) for Europe and XT-XM1
Unilink XM Satellite Tuner (~$175 at crutchfield) for US.
CDX-C90R can control DAB-100 and has RDS support.
I'm not sure if CDX-C90 can control XT-XM1.
Supposedly XT-XM1 can be controlled by 2000-and up Sony receivers with
changer controls (except the CDX-CA400 and WX-4500X)
In Europe it's hard to find a used CDX-C90R.
It is sold as "CD Tuner with DAB Control" and retails around $1300
European version of CDX-C90 is not discontinued and still considered an
up-to-date high-end Sony receiver.
If anyone tested the XT-XM1 with CDX-C90, please tell..
Also if anyone tested the XT-63V with CDX-C90, please tell..
XT-63V is supposed to work exclusively with the Sony XAV-7W in-dash
receiver/monitor
ToR.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Bobby" <mrblackc@msn.com>
> Subject: XDP4000X-List: cdx-c90 vs. cdx-c90r
>
> Anyone out there help me out here. What is (if there is) the
difference
> between the CDX-c90 and the CDX-c90R receivers. I've heard some
rumors
> that the c90r offer some additional features, but I've never heard of
any
> differences posted, or actually anything about this unit.
>
> Bobby
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| Subject: | Re: cdx-c90 vs. cdx-c90r (and more) |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Daniel Botelho <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
The XM will work with the CDX-C90... the owner of this list has
it in 2 vehicles...(or had it!)
If anyone is using the XM receiver with their CDX-C910, please
let me know! :-)
ToR wrote:
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "ToR" <calculathor@hotmail.com>
>
>Radio broadcasting has differences between USA and Europe. Because of
>that digitally tuning radios bought form USA do not work well in Europe
>and in the other way around too.
>
>North American FM broadcast channels are on multiples of odd 200KHz
>frequencies: 99.5MHz, 100.1MHz, etc. In Europe, channels can be on any
>multiple of 100KHz, even or odd.
>also
>FM stations in Europe use 75 microseconds pre-emphasis
>FM stations in North America use 50 microseconds pre-emphasis
>For AM, the difference is 10 kHz steps in the US vs. 9 kHz steps in
>Europe.
>
>This means that a digitally tuning radio from the USA will not tune
>European stations properly. Frequency synthesizing tuners in Europe do
>their actual tuning in shorter steps (for example 25 kHz).
>
>For program type information
>Europe uses RDS - Radio Data System; developed by European Broadcasting
>Union (EBU)
>US uses RBDS - Radio Broadcast Data System; developed by National Radio
>Systems Committee (NRSC)
>
>For digital/satellite radio
>US uses XM
>Europe uses DAB
>
>Sony has DAB-100 Unilink DAB tuner (~$1100) for Europe and XT-XM1
>Unilink XM Satellite Tuner (~$175 at crutchfield) for US.
>
>CDX-C90R can control DAB-100 and has RDS support.
>
>I'm not sure if CDX-C90 can control XT-XM1.
>Supposedly XT-XM1 can be controlled by 2000-and up Sony receivers with
>changer controls (except the CDX-CA400 and WX-4500X)
>
>In Europe it's hard to find a used CDX-C90R.
>It is sold as "CD Tuner with DAB Control" and retails around $1300
>European version of CDX-C90 is not discontinued and still considered an
>up-to-date high-end Sony receiver.
>
>If anyone tested the XT-XM1 with CDX-C90, please tell..
>Also if anyone tested the XT-63V with CDX-C90, please tell..
>
>XT-63V is supposed to work exclusively with the Sony XAV-7W in-dash
>receiver/monitor
>
>ToR.
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: "Bobby" <mrblackc@msn.com>
>>Subject: XDP4000X-List: cdx-c90 vs. cdx-c90r
>>
>>Anyone out there help me out here. What is (if there is) the
>>
>>
>difference
>
>
>>between the CDX-c90 and the CDX-c90R receivers. I've heard some
>>
>>
>rumors
>
>
>>that the c90r offer some additional features, but I've never heard of
>>
>>
>any
>
>
>>differences posted, or actually anything about this unit.
>>
>>Bobby
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: cdx-c90 vs. cdx-c90r (and more) |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Doug Dobson" <dougdobson@chartermi.net>
No luck with the C-910.
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| Subject: | Re: cdx-c90 vs. cdx-c90r (and more) |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Daniel Botelho <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
So, it's fact that it will not work?
:-( I guess the MP3 player will keep me happy...
Thanks,
Daniel
Doug Dobson wrote:
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Doug Dobson" <dougdobson@chartermi.net>
>
>No luck with the C-910.
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: cdx-c90 vs. cdx-c90r (and more) |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Doug Dobson" <dougdobson@chartermi.net>
I tried with all 4 of my C-910s with a few different XM tuners. No luck.
I don't give up too easily, but I'm guessing none will work
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