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1. 06:25 AM - Wanted: XDP-210EQ or XDP-4000x (Colin (DP Motorsport))
2. 07:26 AM - Still in MAJOR Trouble, Please help (aprintis@attbi.com)
3. 07:33 AM - Running bus and optical cable (aprintis@attbi.com)
4. 08:02 AM - Re: Running bus and optical cable (Sqxpert@aol.com)
5. 08:25 AM - Re: Running bus and optical cable (owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com)
6. 08:38 AM - Re: Running bus and optical cable (Sqxpert@aol.com)
7. 09:03 AM - Re: Still in MAJOR Trouble, Please help ()
8. 10:25 AM - Re: Running bus and optical cable (aprintis@attbi.com)
9. 10:48 AM - Re: Running bus and optical cable (Sqxpert@aol.com)
10. 11:16 AM - Major Trouble (aprintis@attbi.com)
11. 11:31 AM - Set-up (aprintis@attbi.com)
12. 11:41 AM - XA-D211 (aprintis@attbi.com)
13. 12:25 PM - Re: Major Trouble ()
14. 12:32 PM - Re: XA-D211 (Sqxpert@aol.com)
15. 12:37 PM - Re: Major Trouble (Colin (DP Motorsport))
16. 12:47 PM - Re: Re: Major Trouble ()
17. 12:55 PM - Re: Re: Major Trouble (Colin (DP Motorsport))
18. 02:29 PM - Re: Re: Major Trouble ()
19. 02:41 PM - Re: Major Trouble (Tom Beall)
20. 02:44 PM - Re: Re: Major Trouble (Tom Beall)
21. 02:45 PM - Re: Re: Major Trouble (Colin (DP Motorsport))
22. 02:48 PM - Re: Major Trouble (aprintis@attbi.com)
23. 03:00 PM - Re: Re: Major Trouble (Colin (DP Motorsport))
24. 03:21 PM - Re: Re: Major Trouble (Tom Beall)
25. 03:28 PM - Re: Major Trouble (Sqxpert@aol.com)
26. 03:50 PM - Re: Major Trouble (Colin (DP Motorsport))
27. 03:51 PM - Re: Re: Major Trouble (Colin (DP Motorsport))
28. 04:27 PM - Re: Re: Major Trouble (Bobby)
29. 04:40 PM - Re: Major Trouble (Roland M)
30. 05:17 PM - Re: Re: Major Trouble (Roland M)
31. 08:08 PM - Re: Major Trouble (Daniel Botelho)
32. 08:10 PM - Re: Major Trouble (Daniel Botelho)
33. 08:12 PM - Re: Major Trouble (Daniel Botelho)
34. 09:48 PM - Re: Major Trouble (Bobby)
35. 10:33 PM - Re: Major Trouble (NOTGSXR@aol.com)
36. 11:21 PM - Re: Re: Major Trouble (Roland M)
37. 11:26 PM - Re: Major Trouble (Roland M)
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| Subject: | Wanted: XDP-210EQ or XDP-4000x |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
New Member so Hi,
As title stated, i am looking at eBay just wondering if anyone here has
either for sale or knows of somewhere else i can buy one.
Cheers
Colin
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| Subject: | Still in MAJOR Trouble, Please help |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
Thanks Chris for the response.
I've have checked some of the essential connection of the processor. I've have
done well over 20,000 miles with the location of the processor and all
connection to it without no problems.
I've a routine of making sure all connection are sound within the sound system.
And the car was standing completely still, and I was into my second hour of
computer work until the crash.
At this moment, the amp and 4000x turn on, but the display of the C910 does not
see the 4000x.
***I am still interested in reading to whether or not that the 4000x has some
type of RESET switch or button. Please advise.
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
>
> not to be down on you or anything- but you did go back , and check all your
> coneections again , didn t you?
> and , maybe you had a problem w/ the system totally crashingon you, have
> heard that happening before!!!!
>
> maybei don t know shit!- but just tring to kinda help out- i just got myne
> the other day- but proablly won t see the car for a month or 2
>
> i accually have a stupid qick question
> anyone in here know if i need to run the octical- and the bus cable - or do
> i just need to run the optical?
> i know, kinda stupid- but just thought i would put it out there-
>
>
> umm oh yeah- one other quick 1!!!!!!
>
> anyone ever remote mount there c-90
> should it be pretty easy for me to do that?
>
> thanks again
>
> tim koehle
> sylvania ohio
>
>
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| Subject: | Running bus and optical cable |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
Chris,
Yes, you need to run the both, the optical cable and the analog cable, from the
head unit to the sound processor. To hear your radio functions, which in analog
only, you will be needing use this cable. If you are not interested in
listening to any of the radio stations, then you will not be needing them.
Don't forget to set the digital output switch which is located underneath the
unit.
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
>
> not to be down on you or anything- but you did go back , and check all your
> coneections again , didn t you?
> and , maybe you had a problem w/ the system totally crashingon you, have
> heard that happening before!!!!
>
> maybei don t know shit!- but just tring to kinda help out- i just got myne
> the other day- but proablly won t see the car for a month or 2
>
> i accually have a stupid qick question
> anyone in here know if i need to run the octical- and the bus cable - or do
> i just need to run the optical?
> i know, kinda stupid- but just thought i would put it out there-
>
>
> umm oh yeah- one other quick 1!!!!!!
>
> anyone ever remote mount there c-90
> should it be pretty easy for me to do that?
>
> thanks again
>
> tim koehle
> sylvania ohio
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Running bus and optical cable |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
so- if i didn t want radio- alls i would have to run is the optical then
right?
thanks for your time- hope you got everything under control
tim koehle
sylvania ohio
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| Subject: | Re: Running bus and optical cable |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by:
Optical and RCA cables are for audio; you have the option of using optical
and/or RCAs, but you have to use the BUS cable to connect the Head Unit to
the processor ALWAYS.
-Edu
----- Original Message -----
From: <Sqxpert@aol.com>
Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Running bus and optical cable
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
so- if i didn t want radio- alls i would have to run is the optical then
right?
thanks for your time- hope you got everything under control
tim koehle
sylvania ohio
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| Subject: | Re: Running bus and optical cable |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
ok-
so- just the way it seems everyone is putting it- i need to run either
or!!!????
am i looking into this to much- most likely!
lol
anyways to conect my 4000x to my c-90 i need to run a optical cable- and a
bus cable- thats it- right?
lol
sorry i m really looking into this way to much
i would not like to use rcas if i don t have to
just tring to get a parts list together so i can start connecting some of my
stuff
thanks
tim koehle
sylvania ohio
ohh yeah- !!!!!!
i need the optical adapter that goes on the back of the c-90
can i pick one up , at like parts expess, or radioshack
or do i have to order it straight from sony-
thanks again for everything- and sorry for being stupid about this
subject
tk
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| Subject: | Re: Still in MAJOR Trouble, Please help |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
Hey man,
Believe it or not, I was experiencing the same issue...
Try both of these:
1) Run the CDX-C910 without the Unilink cabling plugged in.
Reset deck. Just to make sure that the unilink cable isn't causing issues.
2) Unplug the remote wire from the deck, and see if the deck turns on at all.
(I blew out my remote output long ago...you
might want to try the antenna remote versus the amp remote)
3) If you cannot get the deck running at all without any accessories, there is
something really wrong with your deck.
:-(
Please post your findings,
Daniel
>
> From: aprintis@attbi.com
> Date: 2003/03/24 Mon AM 10:25:44 EST
> To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> Subject: XDP4000X-List: Still in MAJOR Trouble, Please help
>
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
>
> Thanks Chris for the response.
>
> I've have checked some of the essential connection of the processor. I've have
> done well over 20,000 miles with the location of the processor and all
> connection to it without no problems.
>
> I've a routine of making sure all connection are sound within the sound system.
>
> And the car was standing completely still, and I was into my second hour of
> computer work until the crash.
>
> At this moment, the amp and 4000x turn on, but the display of the C910 does not
> see the 4000x.
>
> ***I am still interested in reading to whether or not that the 4000x has some
> type of RESET switch or button. Please advise.
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
> >
> > not to be down on you or anything- but you did go back , and check all your
> > coneections again , didn t you?
> > and , maybe you had a problem w/ the system totally crashingon you, have
> > heard that happening before!!!!
> >
> > maybei don t know shit!- but just tring to kinda help out- i just got myne
> > the other day- but proablly won t see the car for a month or 2
> >
> > i accually have a stupid qick question
> > anyone in here know if i need to run the octical- and the bus cable - or
do
> > i just need to run the optical?
> > i know, kinda stupid- but just thought i would put it out there-
> >
> >
> > umm oh yeah- one other quick 1!!!!!!
> >
> > anyone ever remote mount there c-90
> > should it be pretty easy for me to do that?
> >
> > thanks again
> >
> > tim koehle
> > sylvania ohio
> >
> >
>
>
1
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| Subject: | Re: Running bus and optical cable |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
Tim,
Yeah, you will need the connector for the digital out, model XA-D210, which is
available from the Sony Parts not Radio Shack.
If you do not connect the RCA's you'll not hear any of your radio stations. If
you don't care to listen to any radio stations, then you'll be OK to not use
the RCA's.
Tony
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
>
> ok-
> so- just the way it seems everyone is putting it- i need to run either
> or!!!????
>
> am i looking into this to much- most likely!
> lol
> anyways to conect my 4000x to my c-90 i need to run a optical cable- and a
> bus cable- thats it- right?
> lol
> sorry i m really looking into this way to much
>
> i would not like to use rcas if i don t have to
> just tring to get a parts list together so i can start connecting some of my
> stuff
>
> thanks
> tim koehle
> sylvania ohio
>
> ohh yeah- !!!!!!
> i need the optical adapter that goes on the back of the c-90
> can i pick one up , at like parts expess, or radioshack
> or do i have to order it straight from sony-
>
> thanks again for everything- and sorry for being stupid about this
> subject
>
> tk
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Running bus and optical cable |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
ok- so alls i have to worry about then is the optical cable( and the
adapter- any one have a $$$ amount on one of these?) and the bus cable going
off the c-90 to the 4000x
thanks man
tim koehle
sylvania ohio
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
Ok, I really scared myself. I reset the head unit, and the head unit sees the
DSP. I was relunctant to do so, because the last time I reset the head unit, it
fried itself. Resulting in a $270 repair bill and a 4 month wait.
Thanks Daniel for the help. Before I read your comment, I had called Erin, at
Rolling Thunder in San Rafel CA, to pick his brain to possible cure. He
mentioned to reset the unit, and all should be well. And it was.
WHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!
Back to the drawing board to programming the setting.
Thanks Tony
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
>
> Hey man,
>
> Believe it or not, I was experiencing the same issue...
>
> Try both of these:
>
> 1) Run the CDX-C910 without the Unilink cabling plugged in.
> Reset deck. Just to make sure that the unilink cable isn't causing issues.
>
> 2) Unplug the remote wire from the deck, and see if the deck turns on at all.
> (I blew out my remote output long ago...you
> might want to try the antenna remote versus the amp remote)
>
> 3) If you cannot get the deck running at all without any accessories, there
is
> something really wrong with your deck.
>
> :-(
>
> Please post your findings,
>
> Daniel
>
> >
> > From: aprintis@attbi.com
> > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon AM 10:25:44 EST
> > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: XDP4000X-List: Still in MAJOR Trouble, Please help
> >
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
> >
> > Thanks Chris for the response.
> >
> > I've have checked some of the essential connection of the processor. I've have
> > done well over 20,000 miles with the location of the processor and all
> > connection to it without no problems.
> >
> > I've a routine of making sure all connection are sound within the sound
> system.
> >
> > And the car was standing completely still, and I was into my second hour of
> > computer work until the crash.
> >
> > At this moment, the amp and 4000x turn on, but the display of the C910 does
> not
> > see the 4000x.
> >
> > ***I am still interested in reading to whether or not that the 4000x has some
> > type of RESET switch or button. Please advise.
> > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
> > >
> > > not to be down on you or anything- but you did go back , and check all
> your
> > > coneections again , didn t you?
> > > and , maybe you had a problem w/ the system totally crashingon you, have
> > > heard that happening before!!!!
> > >
> > > maybei don t know shit!- but just tring to kinda help out- i just got myne
> > > the other day- but proablly won t see the car for a month or 2
> > >
> > > i accually have a stupid qick question
> > > anyone in here know if i need to run the octical- and the bus cable - or
> do
> > > i just need to run the optical?
> > > i know, kinda stupid- but just thought i would put it out there-
> > >
> > >
> > > umm oh yeah- one other quick 1!!!!!!
> > >
> > > anyone ever remote mount there c-90
> > > should it be pretty easy for me to do that?
> > >
> > > thanks again
> > >
> > > tim koehle
> > > sylvania ohio
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 1
>
>
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
What is the best way to program the 4000x? I have used the DSC for the
crossovers, but I had problems getting the Matronics settings of the PEQ to
download to DSP.
Can someone respond to a step-by-step of saving and downloading instructions
when using the Matronics dialog box?
thanks Tony
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
>
> Hey man,
>
> Believe it or not, I was experiencing the same issue...
>
> Try both of these:
>
> 1) Run the CDX-C910 without the Unilink cabling plugged in.
> Reset deck. Just to make sure that the unilink cable isn't causing issues.
>
> 2) Unplug the remote wire from the deck, and see if the deck turns on at all.
> (I blew out my remote output long ago...you
> might want to try the antenna remote versus the amp remote)
>
> 3) If you cannot get the deck running at all without any accessories, there
is
> something really wrong with your deck.
>
> :-(
>
> Please post your findings,
>
> Daniel
>
> >
> > From: aprintis@attbi.com
> > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon AM 10:25:44 EST
> > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: XDP4000X-List: Still in MAJOR Trouble, Please help
> >
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
> >
> > Thanks Chris for the response.
> >
> > I've have checked some of the essential connection of the processor. I've have
> > done well over 20,000 miles with the location of the processor and all
> > connection to it without no problems.
> >
> > I've a routine of making sure all connection are sound within the sound
> system.
> >
> > And the car was standing completely still, and I was into my second hour of
> > computer work until the crash.
> >
> > At this moment, the amp and 4000x turn on, but the display of the C910 does
> not
> > see the 4000x.
> >
> > ***I am still interested in reading to whether or not that the 4000x has some
> > type of RESET switch or button. Please advise.
> > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
> > >
> > > not to be down on you or anything- but you did go back , and check all
> your
> > > coneections again , didn t you?
> > > and , maybe you had a problem w/ the system totally crashingon you, have
> > > heard that happening before!!!!
> > >
> > > maybei don t know shit!- but just tring to kinda help out- i just got myne
> > > the other day- but proablly won t see the car for a month or 2
> > >
> > > i accually have a stupid qick question
> > > anyone in here know if i need to run the octical- and the bus cable - or
> do
> > > i just need to run the optical?
> > > i know, kinda stupid- but just thought i would put it out there-
> > >
> > >
> > > umm oh yeah- one other quick 1!!!!!!
> > >
> > > anyone ever remote mount there c-90
> > > should it be pretty easy for me to do that?
> > >
> > > thanks again
> > >
> > > tim koehle
> > > sylvania ohio
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 1
>
>
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
Tim,
Here is the info that you'll need for the connector. It is $30 from Sony part
and accessories.
http://servicesales.sel.sony.com/cgi-bin/service/showitems.cgi
Tony
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
>
> ok- so alls i have to worry about then is the optical cable( and the
> adapter- any one have a $$$ amount on one of these?) and the bus cable going
> off the c-90 to the 4000x
>
> thanks man
>
> tim koehle
> sylvania ohio
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Major Trouble |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
:-)
The reset usually works wonders! But then maybe you should
be on the lookout for a spare unit, as I have one underneath
my desk... ;-)
Damn, maybe I should sell my 2 CDX-C910's and get a CDX-C90, but everyone scares
me with the dim display!
Daniel
>
> From: aprintis@attbi.com
> Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 02:15:22 EST
> To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> Subject: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
>
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
>
> Ok, I really scared myself. I reset the head unit, and the head unit sees the
> DSP. I was relunctant to do so, because the last time I reset the head unit,
it
> fried itself. Resulting in a $270 repair bill and a 4 month wait.
>
> Thanks Daniel for the help. Before I read your comment, I had called Erin, at
> Rolling Thunder in San Rafel CA, to pick his brain to possible cure. He
> mentioned to reset the unit, and all should be well. And it was.
> WHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Back to the drawing board to programming the setting.
>
> Thanks Tony
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> >
> > Hey man,
> >
> > Believe it or not, I was experiencing the same issue...
> >
> > Try both of these:
> >
> > 1) Run the CDX-C910 without the Unilink cabling plugged in.
> > Reset deck. Just to make sure that the unilink cable isn't causing issues.
> >
> > 2) Unplug the remote wire from the deck, and see if the deck turns on at all.
> > (I blew out my remote output long ago...you
> > might want to try the antenna remote versus the amp remote)
> >
> > 3) If you cannot get the deck running at all without any accessories, there
is
> > something really wrong with your deck.
> >
> > :-(
> >
> > Please post your findings,
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> > >
> > > From: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon AM 10:25:44 EST
> > > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: XDP4000X-List: Still in MAJOR Trouble, Please help
> > >
> > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
> > >
> > > Thanks Chris for the response.
> > >
> > > I've have checked some of the essential connection of the processor. I've
have
> > > done well over 20,000 miles with the location of the processor and all
> > > connection to it without no problems.
> > >
> > > I've a routine of making sure all connection are sound within the sound
> > system.
> > >
> > > And the car was standing completely still, and I was into my second hour
of
> > > computer work until the crash.
> > >
> > > At this moment, the amp and 4000x turn on, but the display of the C910 does
> > not
> > > see the 4000x.
> > >
> > > ***I am still interested in reading to whether or not that the 4000x has
some
> > > type of RESET switch or button. Please advise.
> > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
> > > >
> > > > not to be down on you or anything- but you did go back , and check all
> > your
> > > > coneections again , didn t you?
> > > > and , maybe you had a problem w/ the system totally crashingon you, have
> > > > heard that happening before!!!!
> > > >
> > > > maybei don t know shit!- but just tring to kinda help out- i just got
myne
> > > > the other day- but proablly won t see the car for a month or 2
> > > >
> > > > i accually have a stupid qick question
> > > > anyone in here know if i need to run the octical- and the bus cable -
or
> > do
> > > > i just need to run the optical?
> > > > i know, kinda stupid- but just thought i would put it out there-
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > umm oh yeah- one other quick 1!!!!!!
> > > >
> > > > anyone ever remote mount there c-90
> > > > should it be pretty easy for me to do that?
> > > >
> > > > thanks again
> > > >
> > > > tim koehle
> > > > sylvania ohio
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > 1
> >
> >
>
>
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
ok- thanks tony!!!!
tim koehle
sylvania ohio
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
You have a spare what X4000 or C910? If it is a 4000 want to sell it?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
dbotel6500@rogers.com
Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
:-)
The reset usually works wonders! But then maybe you should
be on the lookout for a spare unit, as I have one underneath
my desk... ;-)
Damn, maybe I should sell my 2 CDX-C910's and get a CDX-C90, but everyone
scares me with the dim display!
Daniel
>
> From: aprintis@attbi.com
> Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 02:15:22 EST
> To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> Subject: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
>
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
>
> Ok, I really scared myself. I reset the head unit, and the head unit sees
the
> DSP. I was relunctant to do so, because the last time I reset the head
unit, it
> fried itself. Resulting in a $270 repair bill and a 4 month wait.
>
> Thanks Daniel for the help. Before I read your comment, I had called Erin,
at
> Rolling Thunder in San Rafel CA, to pick his brain to possible cure. He
> mentioned to reset the unit, and all should be well. And it was.
> WHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Back to the drawing board to programming the setting.
>
> Thanks Tony
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> >
> > Hey man,
> >
> > Believe it or not, I was experiencing the same issue...
> >
> > Try both of these:
> >
> > 1) Run the CDX-C910 without the Unilink cabling plugged in.
> > Reset deck. Just to make sure that the unilink cable isn't causing
issues.
> >
> > 2) Unplug the remote wire from the deck, and see if the deck turns on at
all.
> > (I blew out my remote output long ago...you
> > might want to try the antenna remote versus the amp remote)
> >
> > 3) If you cannot get the deck running at all without any accessories,
there is
> > something really wrong with your deck.
> >
> > :-(
> >
> > Please post your findings,
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> > >
> > > From: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon AM 10:25:44 EST
> > > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: XDP4000X-List: Still in MAJOR Trouble, Please help
> > >
> > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
> > >
> > > Thanks Chris for the response.
> > >
> > > I've have checked some of the essential connection of the processor.
I've have
> > > done well over 20,000 miles with the location of the processor and all
> > > connection to it without no problems.
> > >
> > > I've a routine of making sure all connection are sound within the
sound
> > system.
> > >
> > > And the car was standing completely still, and I was into my second
hour of
> > > computer work until the crash.
> > >
> > > At this moment, the amp and 4000x turn on, but the display of the C910
does
> > not
> > > see the 4000x.
> > >
> > > ***I am still interested in reading to whether or not that the 4000x
has some
> > > type of RESET switch or button. Please advise.
> > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
> > > >
> > > > not to be down on you or anything- but you did go back , and check
all
> > your
> > > > coneections again , didn t you?
> > > > and , maybe you had a problem w/ the system totally crashingon you,
have
> > > > heard that happening before!!!!
> > > >
> > > > maybei don t know shit!- but just tring to kinda help out- i just
got myne
> > > > the other day- but proablly won t see the car for a month or 2
> > > >
> > > > i accually have a stupid qick question
> > > > anyone in here know if i need to run the octical- and the bus
cable - or
> > do
> > > > i just need to run the optical?
> > > > i know, kinda stupid- but just thought i would put it out there-
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > umm oh yeah- one other quick 1!!!!!!
> > > >
> > > > anyone ever remote mount there c-90
> > > > should it be pretty easy for me to do that?
> > > >
> > > > thanks again
> > > >
> > > > tim koehle
> > > > sylvania ohio
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > 1
> >
> >
>
>
1
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
Sorry, no spare 4000x... ;-) If I end up waking up
in need of some dire $$$, I'd probably post it up here
first, but I do like the unit a lot.
Mind you, those new head units definatly have me wondering
if I should step up, but I would be so disapointed in the sound quality if it wasn't
there.
I had a spare XDP-U50, but that's a sold deal...that
was a very clean sounding DSP!
Daniel
>
> From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
> Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 03:36:50 EST
> To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
>
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
>
> You have a spare what X4000 or C910? If it is a 4000 want to sell it?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> dbotel6500@rogers.com
> To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
>
>
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
>
> :-)
>
> The reset usually works wonders! But then maybe you should
> be on the lookout for a spare unit, as I have one underneath
> my desk... ;-)
>
> Damn, maybe I should sell my 2 CDX-C910's and get a CDX-C90, but everyone
> scares me with the dim display!
>
> Daniel
>
> >
> > From: aprintis@attbi.com
> > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 02:15:22 EST
> > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> >
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
> >
> > Ok, I really scared myself. I reset the head unit, and the head unit sees
> the
> > DSP. I was relunctant to do so, because the last time I reset the head
> unit, it
> > fried itself. Resulting in a $270 repair bill and a 4 month wait.
> >
> > Thanks Daniel for the help. Before I read your comment, I had called Erin,
> at
> > Rolling Thunder in San Rafel CA, to pick his brain to possible cure. He
> > mentioned to reset the unit, and all should be well. And it was.
> > WHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > Back to the drawing board to programming the setting.
> >
> > Thanks Tony
> > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> > >
> > > Hey man,
> > >
> > > Believe it or not, I was experiencing the same issue...
> > >
> > > Try both of these:
> > >
> > > 1) Run the CDX-C910 without the Unilink cabling plugged in.
> > > Reset deck. Just to make sure that the unilink cable isn't causing
> issues.
> > >
> > > 2) Unplug the remote wire from the deck, and see if the deck turns on at
> all.
> > > (I blew out my remote output long ago...you
> > > might want to try the antenna remote versus the amp remote)
> > >
> > > 3) If you cannot get the deck running at all without any accessories,
> there is
> > > something really wrong with your deck.
> > >
> > > :-(
> > >
> > > Please post your findings,
> > >
> > > Daniel
> > >
> > > >
> > > > From: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon AM 10:25:44 EST
> > > > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > > > Subject: XDP4000X-List: Still in MAJOR Trouble, Please help
> > > >
> > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Chris for the response.
> > > >
> > > > I've have checked some of the essential connection of the processor.
> I've have
> > > > done well over 20,000 miles with the location of the processor and all
> > > > connection to it without no problems.
> > > >
> > > > I've a routine of making sure all connection are sound within the
> sound
> > > system.
> > > >
> > > > And the car was standing completely still, and I was into my second
> hour of
> > > > computer work until the crash.
> > > >
> > > > At this moment, the amp and 4000x turn on, but the display of the C910
> does
> > > not
> > > > see the 4000x.
> > > >
> > > > ***I am still interested in reading to whether or not that the 4000x
> has some
> > > > type of RESET switch or button. Please advise.
> > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
> > > > >
> > > > > not to be down on you or anything- but you did go back , and check
> all
> > > your
> > > > > coneections again , didn t you?
> > > > > and , maybe you had a problem w/ the system totally crashingon you,
> have
> > > > > heard that happening before!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > maybei don t know shit!- but just tring to kinda help out- i just
> got myne
> > > > > the other day- but proablly won t see the car for a month or 2
> > > > >
> > > > > i accually have a stupid qick question
> > > > > anyone in here know if i need to run the octical- and the bus
> cable - or
> > > do
> > > > > i just need to run the optical?
> > > > > i know, kinda stupid- but just thought i would put it out there-
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > umm oh yeah- one other quick 1!!!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > anyone ever remote mount there c-90
> > > > > should it be pretty easy for me to do that?
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks again
> > > > >
> > > > > tim koehle
> > > > > sylvania ohio
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > 1
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 1
>
>
>
>
1
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
I don't really like the U50D but am desperate for a 210 or 4000. SO if you
want to sell it you know i am dieing for one.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
dbotel6500@rogers.com
Subject: Re: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
Sorry, no spare 4000x... ;-) If I end up waking up
in need of some dire $$$, I'd probably post it up here
first, but I do like the unit a lot.
Mind you, those new head units definatly have me wondering
if I should step up, but I would be so disapointed in the sound quality if
it wasn't there.
I had a spare XDP-U50, but that's a sold deal...that
was a very clean sounding DSP!
Daniel
>
> From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
> Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 03:36:50 EST
> To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
>
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
<colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
>
> You have a spare what X4000 or C910? If it is a 4000 want to sell it?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> dbotel6500@rogers.com
> To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
>
>
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
>
> :-)
>
> The reset usually works wonders! But then maybe you should
> be on the lookout for a spare unit, as I have one underneath
> my desk... ;-)
>
> Damn, maybe I should sell my 2 CDX-C910's and get a CDX-C90, but everyone
> scares me with the dim display!
>
> Daniel
>
> >
> > From: aprintis@attbi.com
> > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 02:15:22 EST
> > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> >
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
> >
> > Ok, I really scared myself. I reset the head unit, and the head unit
sees
> the
> > DSP. I was relunctant to do so, because the last time I reset the head
> unit, it
> > fried itself. Resulting in a $270 repair bill and a 4 month wait.
> >
> > Thanks Daniel for the help. Before I read your comment, I had called
Erin,
> at
> > Rolling Thunder in San Rafel CA, to pick his brain to possible cure. He
> > mentioned to reset the unit, and all should be well. And it was.
> > WHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > Back to the drawing board to programming the setting.
> >
> > Thanks Tony
> > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> > >
> > > Hey man,
> > >
> > > Believe it or not, I was experiencing the same issue...
> > >
> > > Try both of these:
> > >
> > > 1) Run the CDX-C910 without the Unilink cabling plugged in.
> > > Reset deck. Just to make sure that the unilink cable isn't causing
> issues.
> > >
> > > 2) Unplug the remote wire from the deck, and see if the deck turns on
at
> all.
> > > (I blew out my remote output long ago...you
> > > might want to try the antenna remote versus the amp remote)
> > >
> > > 3) If you cannot get the deck running at all without any accessories,
> there is
> > > something really wrong with your deck.
> > >
> > > :-(
> > >
> > > Please post your findings,
> > >
> > > Daniel
> > >
> > > >
> > > > From: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon AM 10:25:44 EST
> > > > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > > > Subject: XDP4000X-List: Still in MAJOR Trouble, Please help
> > > >
> > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Chris for the response.
> > > >
> > > > I've have checked some of the essential connection of the processor.
> I've have
> > > > done well over 20,000 miles with the location of the processor and
all
> > > > connection to it without no problems.
> > > >
> > > > I've a routine of making sure all connection are sound within the
> sound
> > > system.
> > > >
> > > > And the car was standing completely still, and I was into my second
> hour of
> > > > computer work until the crash.
> > > >
> > > > At this moment, the amp and 4000x turn on, but the display of the
C910
> does
> > > not
> > > > see the 4000x.
> > > >
> > > > ***I am still interested in reading to whether or not that the 4000x
> has some
> > > > type of RESET switch or button. Please advise.
> > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
> > > > >
> > > > > not to be down on you or anything- but you did go back , and
check
> all
> > > your
> > > > > coneections again , didn t you?
> > > > > and , maybe you had a problem w/ the system totally crashingon
you,
> have
> > > > > heard that happening before!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > maybei don t know shit!- but just tring to kinda help out- i just
> got myne
> > > > > the other day- but proablly won t see the car for a month or 2
> > > > >
> > > > > i accually have a stupid qick question
> > > > > anyone in here know if i need to run the octical- and the bus
> cable - or
> > > do
> > > > > i just need to run the optical?
> > > > > i know, kinda stupid- but just thought i would put it out there-
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > umm oh yeah- one other quick 1!!!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > anyone ever remote mount there c-90
> > > > > should it be pretty easy for me to do that?
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks again
> > > > >
> > > > > tim koehle
> > > > > sylvania ohio
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > 1
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 1
>
>
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
I personally wouldn't ever buy the XDP-210.
When I had mine setup in the car, it had an inherent hiss
that wasn't noticeable, until I turned the volume past 40.
(This was done with the CDX-C910)
I mean, with a sound test CD, you could hear the hiss, and let's face it: You
shouldn't have ANY hiss on any Sony ES
product when using an optical or analog cable. I was not impressed, and in the
end, Sony of Canada bought back the unit, as they were not able to repair it
to my satisfaction. They advised that it was a design flaw.
That's why I can't recommend it. I'd just opt for the 4000x...
Daniel
>
> From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
> Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 03:55:09 EST
> To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
>
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
>
> I don't really like the U50D but am desperate for a 210 or 4000. SO if you
> want to sell it you know i am dieing for one.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> dbotel6500@rogers.com
> To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
>
>
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
>
> Sorry, no spare 4000x... ;-) If I end up waking up
> in need of some dire $$$, I'd probably post it up here
> first, but I do like the unit a lot.
>
> Mind you, those new head units definatly have me wondering
> if I should step up, but I would be so disapointed in the sound quality if
> it wasn't there.
>
> I had a spare XDP-U50, but that's a sold deal...that
> was a very clean sounding DSP!
>
> Daniel
>
> >
> > From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
> > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 03:36:50 EST
> > To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> >
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
> <colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
> >
> > You have a spare what X4000 or C910? If it is a 4000 want to sell it?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> > dbotel6500@rogers.com
> > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> >
> >
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > The reset usually works wonders! But then maybe you should
> > be on the lookout for a spare unit, as I have one underneath
> > my desk... ;-)
> >
> > Damn, maybe I should sell my 2 CDX-C910's and get a CDX-C90, but everyone
> > scares me with the dim display!
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> > >
> > > From: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 02:15:22 EST
> > > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> > >
> > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
> > >
> > > Ok, I really scared myself. I reset the head unit, and the head unit
> sees
> > the
> > > DSP. I was relunctant to do so, because the last time I reset the head
> > unit, it
> > > fried itself. Resulting in a $270 repair bill and a 4 month wait.
> > >
> > > Thanks Daniel for the help. Before I read your comment, I had called
> Erin,
> > at
> > > Rolling Thunder in San Rafel CA, to pick his brain to possible cure. He
> > > mentioned to reset the unit, and all should be well. And it was.
> > > WHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > >
> > > Back to the drawing board to programming the setting.
> > >
> > > Thanks Tony
> > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> > > >
> > > > Hey man,
> > > >
> > > > Believe it or not, I was experiencing the same issue...
> > > >
> > > > Try both of these:
> > > >
> > > > 1) Run the CDX-C910 without the Unilink cabling plugged in.
> > > > Reset deck. Just to make sure that the unilink cable isn't causing
> > issues.
> > > >
> > > > 2) Unplug the remote wire from the deck, and see if the deck turns on
> at
> > all.
> > > > (I blew out my remote output long ago...you
> > > > might want to try the antenna remote versus the amp remote)
> > > >
> > > > 3) If you cannot get the deck running at all without any accessories,
> > there is
> > > > something really wrong with your deck.
> > > >
> > > > :-(
> > > >
> > > > Please post your findings,
> > > >
> > > > Daniel
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > > > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon AM 10:25:44 EST
> > > > > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > > > > Subject: XDP4000X-List: Still in MAJOR Trouble, Please help
> > > > >
> > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Chris for the response.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've have checked some of the essential connection of the processor.
> > I've have
> > > > > done well over 20,000 miles with the location of the processor and
> all
> > > > > connection to it without no problems.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've a routine of making sure all connection are sound within the
> > sound
> > > > system.
> > > > >
> > > > > And the car was standing completely still, and I was into my second
> > hour of
> > > > > computer work until the crash.
> > > > >
> > > > > At this moment, the amp and 4000x turn on, but the display of the
> C910
> > does
> > > > not
> > > > > see the 4000x.
> > > > >
> > > > > ***I am still interested in reading to whether or not that the 4000x
> > has some
> > > > > type of RESET switch or button. Please advise.
> > > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > not to be down on you or anything- but you did go back , and
> check
> > all
> > > > your
> > > > > > coneections again , didn t you?
> > > > > > and , maybe you had a problem w/ the system totally crashingon
> you,
> > have
> > > > > > heard that happening before!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > maybei don t know shit!- but just tring to kinda help out- i just
> > got myne
> > > > > > the other day- but proablly won t see the car for a month or 2
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i accually have a stupid qick question
> > > > > > anyone in here know if i need to run the octical- and the bus
> > cable - or
> > > > do
> > > > > > i just need to run the optical?
> > > > > > i know, kinda stupid- but just thought i would put it out there-
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > umm oh yeah- one other quick 1!!!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > anyone ever remote mount there c-90
> > > > > > should it be pretty easy for me to do that?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanks again
> > > > > >
> > > > > > tim koehle
> > > > > > sylvania ohio
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > 1
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > 1
> >
> >
>
> 1
>
>
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Tom Beall" <tom@gehrtroberts.com>
I just went through that decision-making process (whether to move to the c90
or stay with the c910). I decided to stay with the c-910 and buy a backup
unit. I just bought my backup off ebay. Anyway, can anyone make a
persuasive argument for the c90. Other than cosmetic preference, what can
the c90 do that the c910 cannot do?
----- Original Message -----
From: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
>
> :-)
>
> The reset usually works wonders! But then maybe you should
> be on the lookout for a spare unit, as I have one underneath
> my desk... ;-)
>
> Damn, maybe I should sell my 2 CDX-C910's and get a CDX-C90, but everyone
scares me with the dim display!
>
> Daniel
>
> >
> > From: aprintis@attbi.com
> > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 02:15:22 EST
> > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> >
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
> >
> > Ok, I really scared myself. I reset the head unit, and the head unit
sees the
> > DSP. I was relunctant to do so, because the last time I reset the head
unit, it
> > fried itself. Resulting in a $270 repair bill and a 4 month wait.
> >
> > Thanks Daniel for the help. Before I read your comment, I had called
Erin, at
> > Rolling Thunder in San Rafel CA, to pick his brain to possible cure. He
> > mentioned to reset the unit, and all should be well. And it was.
> > WHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > Back to the drawing board to programming the setting.
> >
> > Thanks Tony
> > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> > >
> > > Hey man,
> > >
> > > Believe it or not, I was experiencing the same issue...
> > >
> > > Try both of these:
> > >
> > > 1) Run the CDX-C910 without the Unilink cabling plugged in.
> > > Reset deck. Just to make sure that the unilink cable isn't causing
issues.
> > >
> > > 2) Unplug the remote wire from the deck, and see if the deck turns on
at all.
> > > (I blew out my remote output long ago...you
> > > might want to try the antenna remote versus the amp remote)
> > >
> > > 3) If you cannot get the deck running at all without any accessories,
there is
> > > something really wrong with your deck.
> > >
> > > :-(
> > >
> > > Please post your findings,
> > >
> > > Daniel
> > >
> > > >
> > > > From: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon AM 10:25:44 EST
> > > > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > > > Subject: XDP4000X-List: Still in MAJOR Trouble, Please help
> > > >
> > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Chris for the response.
> > > >
> > > > I've have checked some of the essential connection of the processor.
I've have
> > > > done well over 20,000 miles with the location of the processor and
all
> > > > connection to it without no problems.
> > > >
> > > > I've a routine of making sure all connection are sound within the
sound
> > > system.
> > > >
> > > > And the car was standing completely still, and I was into my second
hour of
> > > > computer work until the crash.
> > > >
> > > > At this moment, the amp and 4000x turn on, but the display of the
C910 does
> > > not
> > > > see the 4000x.
> > > >
> > > > ***I am still interested in reading to whether or not that the 4000x
has some
> > > > type of RESET switch or button. Please advise.
> > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
> > > > >
> > > > > not to be down on you or anything- but you did go back , and
check all
> > > your
> > > > > coneections again , didn t you?
> > > > > and , maybe you had a problem w/ the system totally crashingon
you, have
> > > > > heard that happening before!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > maybei don t know shit!- but just tring to kinda help out- i just
got myne
> > > > > the other day- but proablly won t see the car for a month or 2
> > > > >
> > > > > i accually have a stupid qick question
> > > > > anyone in here know if i need to run the octical- and the bus
cable - or
> > > do
> > > > > i just need to run the optical?
> > > > > i know, kinda stupid- but just thought i would put it out there-
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > umm oh yeah- one other quick 1!!!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > anyone ever remote mount there c-90
> > > > > should it be pretty easy for me to do that?
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks again
> > > > >
> > > > > tim koehle
> > > > > sylvania ohio
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > 1
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 1
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Major Trouble |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Tom Beall" <tom@gehrtroberts.com>
Not only that, why settle for the inferior D/A converters in the 210. It
just seems wrong to by-pass the D/A section in the 910 or 90 (i.e., four
20-bit converters) and send your signal to the lesser processors in the 210.
The 4000x is the only way to go.
----- Original Message -----
From: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
Subject: RE: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
>
> I personally wouldn't ever buy the XDP-210.
>
> When I had mine setup in the car, it had an inherent hiss
> that wasn't noticeable, until I turned the volume past 40.
> (This was done with the CDX-C910)
>
> I mean, with a sound test CD, you could hear the hiss, and let's face it:
You shouldn't have ANY hiss on any Sony ES
> product when using an optical or analog cable. I was not impressed, and
in the end, Sony of Canada bought back the unit, as they were not able to
repair it to my satisfaction. They advised that it was a design flaw.
>
> That's why I can't recommend it. I'd just opt for the 4000x...
>
> Daniel
> >
> > From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
> > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 03:55:09 EST
> > To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: RE: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> >
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
<colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
> >
> > I don't really like the U50D but am desperate for a 210 or 4000. SO if
you
> > want to sell it you know i am dieing for one.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> > dbotel6500@rogers.com
> > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> >
> >
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> >
> > Sorry, no spare 4000x... ;-) If I end up waking up
> > in need of some dire $$$, I'd probably post it up here
> > first, but I do like the unit a lot.
> >
> > Mind you, those new head units definatly have me wondering
> > if I should step up, but I would be so disapointed in the sound quality
if
> > it wasn't there.
> >
> > I had a spare XDP-U50, but that's a sold deal...that
> > was a very clean sounding DSP!
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> > >
> > > From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
> > > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 03:36:50 EST
> > > To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> > >
> > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
> > <colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
> > >
> > > You have a spare what X4000 or C910? If it is a 4000 want to sell it?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
> > > [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> > > dbotel6500@rogers.com
> > > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> > >
> > >
> > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> > >
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > The reset usually works wonders! But then maybe you should
> > > be on the lookout for a spare unit, as I have one underneath
> > > my desk... ;-)
> > >
> > > Damn, maybe I should sell my 2 CDX-C910's and get a CDX-C90, but
everyone
> > > scares me with the dim display!
> > >
> > > Daniel
> > >
> > > >
> > > > From: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 02:15:22 EST
> > > > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > > > Subject: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> > > >
> > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > >
> > > > Ok, I really scared myself. I reset the head unit, and the head unit
> > sees
> > > the
> > > > DSP. I was relunctant to do so, because the last time I reset the
head
> > > unit, it
> > > > fried itself. Resulting in a $270 repair bill and a 4 month wait.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Daniel for the help. Before I read your comment, I had called
> > Erin,
> > > at
> > > > Rolling Thunder in San Rafel CA, to pick his brain to possible cure.
He
> > > > mentioned to reset the unit, and all should be well. And it was.
> > > > WHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > >
> > > > Back to the drawing board to programming the setting.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Tony
> > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey man,
> > > > >
> > > > > Believe it or not, I was experiencing the same issue...
> > > > >
> > > > > Try both of these:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) Run the CDX-C910 without the Unilink cabling plugged in.
> > > > > Reset deck. Just to make sure that the unilink cable isn't
causing
> > > issues.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2) Unplug the remote wire from the deck, and see if the deck turns
on
> > at
> > > all.
> > > > > (I blew out my remote output long ago...you
> > > > > might want to try the antenna remote versus the amp remote)
> > > > >
> > > > > 3) If you cannot get the deck running at all without any
accessories,
> > > there is
> > > > > something really wrong with your deck.
> > > > >
> > > > > :-(
> > > > >
> > > > > Please post your findings,
> > > > >
> > > > > Daniel
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > > > > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon AM 10:25:44 EST
> > > > > > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > Subject: XDP4000X-List: Still in MAJOR Trouble, Please help
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks Chris for the response.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've have checked some of the essential connection of the
processor.
> > > I've have
> > > > > > done well over 20,000 miles with the location of the processor
and
> > all
> > > > > > connection to it without no problems.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've a routine of making sure all connection are sound within
the
> > > sound
> > > > > system.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And the car was standing completely still, and I was into my
second
> > > hour of
> > > > > > computer work until the crash.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At this moment, the amp and 4000x turn on, but the display of
the
> > C910
> > > does
> > > > > not
> > > > > > see the 4000x.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ***I am still interested in reading to whether or not that the
4000x
> > > has some
> > > > > > type of RESET switch or button. Please advise.
> > > > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > not to be down on you or anything- but you did go back , and
> > check
> > > all
> > > > > your
> > > > > > > coneections again , didn t you?
> > > > > > > and , maybe you had a problem w/ the system totally
crashingon
> > you,
> > > have
> > > > > > > heard that happening before!!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > maybei don t know shit!- but just tring to kinda help out- i
just
> > > got myne
> > > > > > > the other day- but proablly won t see the car for a month or 2
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > i accually have a stupid qick question
> > > > > > > anyone in here know if i need to run the octical- and the
bus
> > > cable - or
> > > > > do
> > > > > > > i just need to run the optical?
> > > > > > > i know, kinda stupid- but just thought i would put it out
there-
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > umm oh yeah- one other quick 1!!!!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > anyone ever remote mount there c-90
> > > > > > > should it be pretty easy for me to do that?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > thanks again
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > tim koehle
> > > > > > > sylvania ohio
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 1
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > 1
> > >
> > >
> >
> > 1
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 1
>
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
I think you maybe had a faulty one, as I've heard a couple and there was no
hiss whatsoever and was very impressed with it.
Anyway i just want one a 210 or 4000 as i don't have either.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
dbotel6500@rogers.com
Subject: RE: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
I personally wouldn't ever buy the XDP-210.
When I had mine setup in the car, it had an inherent hiss
that wasn't noticeable, until I turned the volume past 40.
(This was done with the CDX-C910)
I mean, with a sound test CD, you could hear the hiss, and let's face it:
You shouldn't have ANY hiss on any Sony ES
product when using an optical or analog cable. I was not impressed, and in
the end, Sony of Canada bought back the unit, as they were not able to
repair it to my satisfaction. They advised that it was a design flaw.
That's why I can't recommend it. I'd just opt for the 4000x...
Daniel
>
> From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
> Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 03:55:09 EST
> To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
>
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
<colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
>
> I don't really like the U50D but am desperate for a 210 or 4000. SO if you
> want to sell it you know i am dieing for one.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> dbotel6500@rogers.com
> To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
>
>
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
>
> Sorry, no spare 4000x... ;-) If I end up waking up
> in need of some dire $$$, I'd probably post it up here
> first, but I do like the unit a lot.
>
> Mind you, those new head units definatly have me wondering
> if I should step up, but I would be so disapointed in the sound quality if
> it wasn't there.
>
> I had a spare XDP-U50, but that's a sold deal...that
> was a very clean sounding DSP!
>
> Daniel
>
> >
> > From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
> > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 03:36:50 EST
> > To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> >
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
> <colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
> >
> > You have a spare what X4000 or C910? If it is a 4000 want to sell it?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> > dbotel6500@rogers.com
> > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> >
> >
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > The reset usually works wonders! But then maybe you should
> > be on the lookout for a spare unit, as I have one underneath
> > my desk... ;-)
> >
> > Damn, maybe I should sell my 2 CDX-C910's and get a CDX-C90, but
everyone
> > scares me with the dim display!
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> > >
> > > From: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 02:15:22 EST
> > > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> > >
> > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
> > >
> > > Ok, I really scared myself. I reset the head unit, and the head unit
> sees
> > the
> > > DSP. I was relunctant to do so, because the last time I reset the head
> > unit, it
> > > fried itself. Resulting in a $270 repair bill and a 4 month wait.
> > >
> > > Thanks Daniel for the help. Before I read your comment, I had called
> Erin,
> > at
> > > Rolling Thunder in San Rafel CA, to pick his brain to possible cure.
He
> > > mentioned to reset the unit, and all should be well. And it was.
> > > WHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > >
> > > Back to the drawing board to programming the setting.
> > >
> > > Thanks Tony
> > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> > > >
> > > > Hey man,
> > > >
> > > > Believe it or not, I was experiencing the same issue...
> > > >
> > > > Try both of these:
> > > >
> > > > 1) Run the CDX-C910 without the Unilink cabling plugged in.
> > > > Reset deck. Just to make sure that the unilink cable isn't causing
> > issues.
> > > >
> > > > 2) Unplug the remote wire from the deck, and see if the deck turns
on
> at
> > all.
> > > > (I blew out my remote output long ago...you
> > > > might want to try the antenna remote versus the amp remote)
> > > >
> > > > 3) If you cannot get the deck running at all without any
accessories,
> > there is
> > > > something really wrong with your deck.
> > > >
> > > > :-(
> > > >
> > > > Please post your findings,
> > > >
> > > > Daniel
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > > > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon AM 10:25:44 EST
> > > > > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > > > > Subject: XDP4000X-List: Still in MAJOR Trouble, Please help
> > > > >
> > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Chris for the response.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've have checked some of the essential connection of the
processor.
> > I've have
> > > > > done well over 20,000 miles with the location of the processor and
> all
> > > > > connection to it without no problems.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've a routine of making sure all connection are sound within the
> > sound
> > > > system.
> > > > >
> > > > > And the car was standing completely still, and I was into my
second
> > hour of
> > > > > computer work until the crash.
> > > > >
> > > > > At this moment, the amp and 4000x turn on, but the display of the
> C910
> > does
> > > > not
> > > > > see the 4000x.
> > > > >
> > > > > ***I am still interested in reading to whether or not that the
4000x
> > has some
> > > > > type of RESET switch or button. Please advise.
> > > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > not to be down on you or anything- but you did go back , and
> check
> > all
> > > > your
> > > > > > coneections again , didn t you?
> > > > > > and , maybe you had a problem w/ the system totally crashingon
> you,
> > have
> > > > > > heard that happening before!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > maybei don t know shit!- but just tring to kinda help out- i
just
> > got myne
> > > > > > the other day- but proablly won t see the car for a month or 2
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i accually have a stupid qick question
> > > > > > anyone in here know if i need to run the octical- and the bus
> > cable - or
> > > > do
> > > > > > i just need to run the optical?
> > > > > > i know, kinda stupid- but just thought i would put it out
there-
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > umm oh yeah- one other quick 1!!!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > anyone ever remote mount there c-90
> > > > > > should it be pretty easy for me to do that?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanks again
> > > > > >
> > > > > > tim koehle
> > > > > > sylvania ohio
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > 1
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > 1
> >
> >
>
> 1
>
>
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
Well, I knew that the C910 is a tempermental beast when I bought it. For a hobby,
car
stereo equipment can be very expensive (especially once you factor in installation
charges). I did quite alot of research before picking on this one. If, I had a
couple more
bucks, I would step up to the C90. For the ratio of sound quality and expenditures,
C910
is not that bad. Compared to spending $4000 for a Alpine F1, now that is the BOMB
of
car stereo equipment.
I feel that Sony has completely MISS THE BOAT for the ES customers. They should
provide us 4000x users patch software that expands the crossover capablities that
we
are desperate need for a nominal fee. There by keeping us happy and loyal. If they
weren't interested themselves, with their expertise in development, they could
be finished
in quick snap. Then, sell the rights and infrastructue to a interested party or
to Matronics.
But, what do I know. I am poor, dreaming, Sony Sap, who is stuck at a crossover
point of
793hz wanting to go down to 600hz.
Tony
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
>
> :-)
>
> The reset usually works wonders! But then maybe you should
> be on the lookout for a spare unit, as I have one underneath
> my desk... ;-)
>
> Damn, maybe I should sell my 2 CDX-C910's and get a CDX-C90, but everyone scares
> me with the dim display!
>
> Daniel
>
> >
> > From: aprintis@attbi.com
> > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 02:15:22 EST
> > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> >
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
> >
> > Ok, I really scared myself. I reset the head unit, and the head unit sees the
> > DSP. I was relunctant to do so, because the last time I reset the head unit,
> it
> > fried itself. Resulting in a $270 repair bill and a 4 month wait.
> >
> > Thanks Daniel for the help. Before I read your comment, I had called Erin,
at
> > Rolling Thunder in San Rafel CA, to pick his brain to possible cure. He
> > mentioned to reset the unit, and all should be well. And it was.
> > WHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > Back to the drawing board to programming the setting.
> >
> > Thanks Tony
> > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> > >
> > > Hey man,
> > >
> > > Believe it or not, I was experiencing the same issue...
> > >
> > > Try both of these:
> > >
> > > 1) Run the CDX-C910 without the Unilink cabling plugged in.
> > > Reset deck. Just to make sure that the unilink cable isn't causing issues.
> > >
> > > 2) Unplug the remote wire from the deck, and see if the deck turns on at
> all.
> > > (I blew out my remote output long ago...you
> > > might want to try the antenna remote versus the amp remote)
> > >
> > > 3) If you cannot get the deck running at all without any accessories, there
> is
> > > something really wrong with your deck.
> > >
> > > :-(
> > >
> > > Please post your findings,
> > >
> > > Daniel
> > >
> > > >
> > > > From: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon AM 10:25:44 EST
> > > > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > > > Subject: XDP4000X-List: Still in MAJOR Trouble, Please help
> > > >
> > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Chris for the response.
> > > >
> > > > I've have checked some of the essential connection of the processor. I've
> have
> > > > done well over 20,000 miles with the location of the processor and all
> > > > connection to it without no problems.
> > > >
> > > > I've a routine of making sure all connection are sound within the sound
> > > system.
> > > >
> > > > And the car was standing completely still, and I was into my second hour
> of
> > > > computer work until the crash.
> > > >
> > > > At this moment, the amp and 4000x turn on, but the display of the C910
> does
> > > not
> > > > see the 4000x.
> > > >
> > > > ***I am still interested in reading to whether or not that the 4000x has
> some
> > > > type of RESET switch or button. Please advise.
> > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
> > > > >
> > > > > not to be down on you or anything- but you did go back , and check
all
> > > your
> > > > > coneections again , didn t you?
> > > > > and , maybe you had a problem w/ the system totally crashingon you,
> have
> > > > > heard that happening before!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > maybei don t know shit!- but just tring to kinda help out- i just got
> myne
> > > > > the other day- but proablly won t see the car for a month or 2
> > > > >
> > > > > i accually have a stupid qick question
> > > > > anyone in here know if i need to run the octical- and the bus cable
-
> or
> > > do
> > > > > i just need to run the optical?
> > > > > i know, kinda stupid- but just thought i would put it out there-
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > umm oh yeah- one other quick 1!!!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > anyone ever remote mount there c-90
> > > > > should it be pretty easy for me to do that?
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks again
> > > > >
> > > > > tim koehle
> > > > > sylvania ohio
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > 1
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 1
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
The 210 doesn't have lesser DACs it U50D does (1bit). The 910/90 has four
20-bit and the 210 has six 20-bit. Am I wrong?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tom Beall
Subject: Re: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Tom Beall" <tom@gehrtroberts.com>
Not only that, why settle for the inferior D/A converters in the 210. It
just seems wrong to by-pass the D/A section in the 910 or 90 (i.e., four
20-bit converters) and send your signal to the lesser processors in the 210.
The 4000x is the only way to go.
----- Original Message -----
From: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
Subject: RE: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
>
> I personally wouldn't ever buy the XDP-210.
>
> When I had mine setup in the car, it had an inherent hiss
> that wasn't noticeable, until I turned the volume past 40.
> (This was done with the CDX-C910)
>
> I mean, with a sound test CD, you could hear the hiss, and let's face it:
You shouldn't have ANY hiss on any Sony ES
> product when using an optical or analog cable. I was not impressed, and
in the end, Sony of Canada bought back the unit, as they were not able to
repair it to my satisfaction. They advised that it was a design flaw.
>
> That's why I can't recommend it. I'd just opt for the 4000x...
>
> Daniel
> >
> > From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
> > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 03:55:09 EST
> > To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: RE: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> >
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
<colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
> >
> > I don't really like the U50D but am desperate for a 210 or 4000. SO if
you
> > want to sell it you know i am dieing for one.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> > dbotel6500@rogers.com
> > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> >
> >
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> >
> > Sorry, no spare 4000x... ;-) If I end up waking up
> > in need of some dire $$$, I'd probably post it up here
> > first, but I do like the unit a lot.
> >
> > Mind you, those new head units definatly have me wondering
> > if I should step up, but I would be so disapointed in the sound quality
if
> > it wasn't there.
> >
> > I had a spare XDP-U50, but that's a sold deal...that
> > was a very clean sounding DSP!
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> > >
> > > From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
> > > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 03:36:50 EST
> > > To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> > >
> > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
> > <colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
> > >
> > > You have a spare what X4000 or C910? If it is a 4000 want to sell it?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
> > > [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> > > dbotel6500@rogers.com
> > > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> > >
> > >
> > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> > >
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > The reset usually works wonders! But then maybe you should
> > > be on the lookout for a spare unit, as I have one underneath
> > > my desk... ;-)
> > >
> > > Damn, maybe I should sell my 2 CDX-C910's and get a CDX-C90, but
everyone
> > > scares me with the dim display!
> > >
> > > Daniel
> > >
> > > >
> > > > From: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 02:15:22 EST
> > > > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > > > Subject: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> > > >
> > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > >
> > > > Ok, I really scared myself. I reset the head unit, and the head unit
> > sees
> > > the
> > > > DSP. I was relunctant to do so, because the last time I reset the
head
> > > unit, it
> > > > fried itself. Resulting in a $270 repair bill and a 4 month wait.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Daniel for the help. Before I read your comment, I had called
> > Erin,
> > > at
> > > > Rolling Thunder in San Rafel CA, to pick his brain to possible cure.
He
> > > > mentioned to reset the unit, and all should be well. And it was.
> > > > WHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > >
> > > > Back to the drawing board to programming the setting.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Tony
> > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey man,
> > > > >
> > > > > Believe it or not, I was experiencing the same issue...
> > > > >
> > > > > Try both of these:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) Run the CDX-C910 without the Unilink cabling plugged in.
> > > > > Reset deck. Just to make sure that the unilink cable isn't
causing
> > > issues.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2) Unplug the remote wire from the deck, and see if the deck turns
on
> > at
> > > all.
> > > > > (I blew out my remote output long ago...you
> > > > > might want to try the antenna remote versus the amp remote)
> > > > >
> > > > > 3) If you cannot get the deck running at all without any
accessories,
> > > there is
> > > > > something really wrong with your deck.
> > > > >
> > > > > :-(
> > > > >
> > > > > Please post your findings,
> > > > >
> > > > > Daniel
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > > > > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon AM 10:25:44 EST
> > > > > > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > Subject: XDP4000X-List: Still in MAJOR Trouble, Please help
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks Chris for the response.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've have checked some of the essential connection of the
processor.
> > > I've have
> > > > > > done well over 20,000 miles with the location of the processor
and
> > all
> > > > > > connection to it without no problems.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've a routine of making sure all connection are sound within
the
> > > sound
> > > > > system.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And the car was standing completely still, and I was into my
second
> > > hour of
> > > > > > computer work until the crash.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At this moment, the amp and 4000x turn on, but the display of
the
> > C910
> > > does
> > > > > not
> > > > > > see the 4000x.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ***I am still interested in reading to whether or not that the
4000x
> > > has some
> > > > > > type of RESET switch or button. Please advise.
> > > > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > not to be down on you or anything- but you did go back , and
> > check
> > > all
> > > > > your
> > > > > > > coneections again , didn t you?
> > > > > > > and , maybe you had a problem w/ the system totally
crashingon
> > you,
> > > have
> > > > > > > heard that happening before!!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > maybei don t know shit!- but just tring to kinda help out- i
just
> > > got myne
> > > > > > > the other day- but proablly won t see the car for a month or 2
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > i accually have a stupid qick question
> > > > > > > anyone in here know if i need to run the octical- and the
bus
> > > cable - or
> > > > > do
> > > > > > > i just need to run the optical?
> > > > > > > i know, kinda stupid- but just thought i would put it out
there-
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > umm oh yeah- one other quick 1!!!!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > anyone ever remote mount there c-90
> > > > > > > should it be pretty easy for me to do that?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > thanks again
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > tim koehle
> > > > > > > sylvania ohio
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 1
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > 1
> > >
> > >
> >
> > 1
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 1
>
>
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Tom Beall" <tom@gehrtroberts.com>
I could be wrong, but I don't think the 210 had 20-bit D/A converters. In
fact, I'm pretty sure of that. I remember considering the 210 before
purchasing my 4000x, and I got my information from Sony product literature.
Speaking of Sony product lit, does anyone know where I can buy or download
an operators manual for the 910 (prefer to download pdf). Also, is there a
training manual or some kind of dealer-only manual for the 4000x that can be
purchased or downloaded? As we all know, the consumer manual provided by
Sony for the 4000x is a joke.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
Subject: RE: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
<colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
>
> The 210 doesn't have lesser DACs it U50D does (1bit). The 910/90 has four
> 20-bit and the 210 has six 20-bit. Am I wrong?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tom Beall
> To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
>
>
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Tom Beall" <tom@gehrtroberts.com>
>
> Not only that, why settle for the inferior D/A converters in the 210. It
> just seems wrong to by-pass the D/A section in the 910 or 90 (i.e., four
> 20-bit converters) and send your signal to the lesser processors in the
210.
> The 4000x is the only way to go.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
>
>
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> >
> > I personally wouldn't ever buy the XDP-210.
> >
> > When I had mine setup in the car, it had an inherent hiss
> > that wasn't noticeable, until I turned the volume past 40.
> > (This was done with the CDX-C910)
> >
> > I mean, with a sound test CD, you could hear the hiss, and let's face
it:
> You shouldn't have ANY hiss on any Sony ES
> > product when using an optical or analog cable. I was not impressed, and
> in the end, Sony of Canada bought back the unit, as they were not able to
> repair it to my satisfaction. They advised that it was a design flaw.
> >
> > That's why I can't recommend it. I'd just opt for the 4000x...
> >
> > Daniel
> > >
> > > From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
> > > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 03:55:09 EST
> > > To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: RE: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> > >
> > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
> <colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
> > >
> > > I don't really like the U50D but am desperate for a 210 or 4000. SO if
> you
> > > want to sell it you know i am dieing for one.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
> > > [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> > > dbotel6500@rogers.com
> > > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: Re: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> > >
> > >
> > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> > >
> > > Sorry, no spare 4000x... ;-) If I end up waking up
> > > in need of some dire $$$, I'd probably post it up here
> > > first, but I do like the unit a lot.
> > >
> > > Mind you, those new head units definatly have me wondering
> > > if I should step up, but I would be so disapointed in the sound
quality
> if
> > > it wasn't there.
> > >
> > > I had a spare XDP-U50, but that's a sold deal...that
> > > was a very clean sounding DSP!
> > >
> > > Daniel
> > >
> > > >
> > > > From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
> > > > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 03:36:50 EST
> > > > To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
> > > > Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> > > >
> > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
> > > <colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
> > > >
> > > > You have a spare what X4000 or C910? If it is a 4000 want to sell
it?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> > > > dbotel6500@rogers.com
> > > > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > > > Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> > > >
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > > The reset usually works wonders! But then maybe you should
> > > > be on the lookout for a spare unit, as I have one underneath
> > > > my desk... ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Damn, maybe I should sell my 2 CDX-C910's and get a CDX-C90, but
> everyone
> > > > scares me with the dim display!
> > > >
> > > > Daniel
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > > > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 02:15:22 EST
> > > > > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > > > > Subject: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> > > > >
> > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok, I really scared myself. I reset the head unit, and the head
unit
> > > sees
> > > > the
> > > > > DSP. I was relunctant to do so, because the last time I reset the
> head
> > > > unit, it
> > > > > fried itself. Resulting in a $270 repair bill and a 4 month wait.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Daniel for the help. Before I read your comment, I had
called
> > > Erin,
> > > > at
> > > > > Rolling Thunder in San Rafel CA, to pick his brain to possible
cure.
> He
> > > > > mentioned to reset the unit, and all should be well. And it was.
> > > > > WHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Back to the drawing board to programming the setting.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Tony
> > > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hey man,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Believe it or not, I was experiencing the same issue...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Try both of these:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1) Run the CDX-C910 without the Unilink cabling plugged in.
> > > > > > Reset deck. Just to make sure that the unilink cable isn't
> causing
> > > > issues.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2) Unplug the remote wire from the deck, and see if the deck
turns
> on
> > > at
> > > > all.
> > > > > > (I blew out my remote output long ago...you
> > > > > > might want to try the antenna remote versus the amp remote)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3) If you cannot get the deck running at all without any
> accessories,
> > > > there is
> > > > > > something really wrong with your deck.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > :-(
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please post your findings,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Daniel
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > > > > > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon AM 10:25:44 EST
> > > > > > > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > Subject: XDP4000X-List: Still in MAJOR Trouble, Please help
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks Chris for the response.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've have checked some of the essential connection of the
> processor.
> > > > I've have
> > > > > > > done well over 20,000 miles with the location of the processor
> and
> > > all
> > > > > > > connection to it without no problems.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've a routine of making sure all connection are sound within
> the
> > > > sound
> > > > > > system.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And the car was standing completely still, and I was into my
> second
> > > > hour of
> > > > > > > computer work until the crash.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > At this moment, the amp and 4000x turn on, but the display of
> the
> > > C910
> > > > does
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > see the 4000x.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ***I am still interested in reading to whether or not that the
> 4000x
> > > > has some
> > > > > > > type of RESET switch or button. Please advise.
> > > > > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > not to be down on you or anything- but you did go back ,
and
> > > check
> > > > all
> > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > coneections again , didn t you?
> > > > > > > > and , maybe you had a problem w/ the system totally
> crashingon
> > > you,
> > > > have
> > > > > > > > heard that happening before!!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > maybei don t know shit!- but just tring to kinda help out-
i
> just
> > > > got myne
> > > > > > > > the other day- but proablly won t see the car for a month or
2
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > i accually have a stupid qick question
> > > > > > > > anyone in here know if i need to run the octical- and the
> bus
> > > > cable - or
> > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > i just need to run the optical?
> > > > > > > > i know, kinda stupid- but just thought i would put it out
> there-
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > umm oh yeah- one other quick 1!!!!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > anyone ever remote mount there c-90
> > > > > > > > should it be pretty easy for me to do that?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > thanks again
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > tim koehle
> > > > > > > > sylvania ohio
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > 1
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > 1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > 1
> >
> >
>
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
ill sell you my c-90+ my 4000x- both never used for $1000.00+shipping
let me know
tim koehle
sylvania ohio
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
Would love it but more than i want to spend. Don't need the C90 either. What
about the 4000x on its own?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Sqxpert@aol.com
Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
ill sell you my c-90+ my 4000x- both never used for $1000.00+shipping
let me know
tim koehle
sylvania ohio
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
The XDP-210EQ does have 20-bit DACs it is the U50D that did not have 20-bit
DACs.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tom Beall
Subject: Re: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Tom Beall" <tom@gehrtroberts.com>
I could be wrong, but I don't think the 210 had 20-bit D/A converters. In
fact, I'm pretty sure of that. I remember considering the 210 before
purchasing my 4000x, and I got my information from Sony product literature.
Speaking of Sony product lit, does anyone know where I can buy or download
an operators manual for the 910 (prefer to download pdf). Also, is there a
training manual or some kind of dealer-only manual for the 4000x that can be
purchased or downloaded? As we all know, the consumer manual provided by
Sony for the 4000x is a joke.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
Subject: RE: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
<colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
>
> The 210 doesn't have lesser DACs it U50D does (1bit). The 910/90 has four
> 20-bit and the 210 has six 20-bit. Am I wrong?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tom Beall
> To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
>
>
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Tom Beall" <tom@gehrtroberts.com>
>
> Not only that, why settle for the inferior D/A converters in the 210. It
> just seems wrong to by-pass the D/A section in the 910 or 90 (i.e., four
> 20-bit converters) and send your signal to the lesser processors in the
210.
> The 4000x is the only way to go.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
>
>
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> >
> > I personally wouldn't ever buy the XDP-210.
> >
> > When I had mine setup in the car, it had an inherent hiss
> > that wasn't noticeable, until I turned the volume past 40.
> > (This was done with the CDX-C910)
> >
> > I mean, with a sound test CD, you could hear the hiss, and let's face
it:
> You shouldn't have ANY hiss on any Sony ES
> > product when using an optical or analog cable. I was not impressed, and
> in the end, Sony of Canada bought back the unit, as they were not able to
> repair it to my satisfaction. They advised that it was a design flaw.
> >
> > That's why I can't recommend it. I'd just opt for the 4000x...
> >
> > Daniel
> > >
> > > From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
> > > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 03:55:09 EST
> > > To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: RE: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> > >
> > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
> <colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
> > >
> > > I don't really like the U50D but am desperate for a 210 or 4000. SO if
> you
> > > want to sell it you know i am dieing for one.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
> > > [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> > > dbotel6500@rogers.com
> > > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: Re: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> > >
> > >
> > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> > >
> > > Sorry, no spare 4000x... ;-) If I end up waking up
> > > in need of some dire $$$, I'd probably post it up here
> > > first, but I do like the unit a lot.
> > >
> > > Mind you, those new head units definatly have me wondering
> > > if I should step up, but I would be so disapointed in the sound
quality
> if
> > > it wasn't there.
> > >
> > > I had a spare XDP-U50, but that's a sold deal...that
> > > was a very clean sounding DSP!
> > >
> > > Daniel
> > >
> > > >
> > > > From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
> > > > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 03:36:50 EST
> > > > To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
> > > > Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> > > >
> > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
> > > <colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
> > > >
> > > > You have a spare what X4000 or C910? If it is a 4000 want to sell
it?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> > > > dbotel6500@rogers.com
> > > > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > > > Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> > > >
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > > The reset usually works wonders! But then maybe you should
> > > > be on the lookout for a spare unit, as I have one underneath
> > > > my desk... ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Damn, maybe I should sell my 2 CDX-C910's and get a CDX-C90, but
> everyone
> > > > scares me with the dim display!
> > > >
> > > > Daniel
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > > > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 02:15:22 EST
> > > > > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > > > > Subject: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> > > > >
> > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok, I really scared myself. I reset the head unit, and the head
unit
> > > sees
> > > > the
> > > > > DSP. I was relunctant to do so, because the last time I reset the
> head
> > > > unit, it
> > > > > fried itself. Resulting in a $270 repair bill and a 4 month wait.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Daniel for the help. Before I read your comment, I had
called
> > > Erin,
> > > > at
> > > > > Rolling Thunder in San Rafel CA, to pick his brain to possible
cure.
> He
> > > > > mentioned to reset the unit, and all should be well. And it was.
> > > > > WHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Back to the drawing board to programming the setting.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Tony
> > > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hey man,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Believe it or not, I was experiencing the same issue...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Try both of these:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1) Run the CDX-C910 without the Unilink cabling plugged in.
> > > > > > Reset deck. Just to make sure that the unilink cable isn't
> causing
> > > > issues.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2) Unplug the remote wire from the deck, and see if the deck
turns
> on
> > > at
> > > > all.
> > > > > > (I blew out my remote output long ago...you
> > > > > > might want to try the antenna remote versus the amp remote)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3) If you cannot get the deck running at all without any
> accessories,
> > > > there is
> > > > > > something really wrong with your deck.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > :-(
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please post your findings,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Daniel
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > > > > > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon AM 10:25:44 EST
> > > > > > > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > Subject: XDP4000X-List: Still in MAJOR Trouble, Please help
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks Chris for the response.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've have checked some of the essential connection of the
> processor.
> > > > I've have
> > > > > > > done well over 20,000 miles with the location of the processor
> and
> > > all
> > > > > > > connection to it without no problems.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've a routine of making sure all connection are sound within
> the
> > > > sound
> > > > > > system.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And the car was standing completely still, and I was into my
> second
> > > > hour of
> > > > > > > computer work until the crash.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > At this moment, the amp and 4000x turn on, but the display of
> the
> > > C910
> > > > does
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > see the 4000x.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ***I am still interested in reading to whether or not that the
> 4000x
> > > > has some
> > > > > > > type of RESET switch or button. Please advise.
> > > > > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > not to be down on you or anything- but you did go back ,
and
> > > check
> > > > all
> > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > coneections again , didn t you?
> > > > > > > > and , maybe you had a problem w/ the system totally
> crashingon
> > > you,
> > > > have
> > > > > > > > heard that happening before!!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > maybei don t know shit!- but just tring to kinda help out-
i
> just
> > > > got myne
> > > > > > > > the other day- but proablly won t see the car for a month or
2
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > i accually have a stupid qick question
> > > > > > > > anyone in here know if i need to run the octical- and the
> bus
> > > > cable - or
> > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > i just need to run the optical?
> > > > > > > > i know, kinda stupid- but just thought i would put it out
> there-
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > umm oh yeah- one other quick 1!!!!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > anyone ever remote mount there c-90
> > > > > > > > should it be pretty easy for me to do that?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > thanks again
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > tim koehle
> > > > > > > > sylvania ohio
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > 1
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > 1
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > 1
> >
> >
>
>
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Bobby" <mrblackc@msn.com>
I have a like new 210eq sitting in my closet, with box, manual, unilink
cable, well, everything that it came with if anyone's interested. This unit
is in mint shape, will take pictures if anyone is really that interested.
And just a note, the 210eq did come with 20 bit d/a's. Burr Brown 20 bit
d/a's in fact. I liked the unit, but obviously, when I bought a 4000x I had
to put it aside. Let me know if you're interested.
Bobby
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Beall" <tom@gehrtroberts.com>
Subject: Re: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Tom Beall" <tom@gehrtroberts.com>
>
> I could be wrong, but I don't think the 210 had 20-bit D/A converters. In
> fact, I'm pretty sure of that. I remember considering the 210 before
> purchasing my 4000x, and I got my information from Sony product
literature.
> Speaking of Sony product lit, does anyone know where I can buy or
download
> an operators manual for the 910 (prefer to download pdf). Also, is there
a
> training manual or some kind of dealer-only manual for the 4000x that can
be
> purchased or downloaded? As we all know, the consumer manual provided by
> Sony for the 4000x is a joke.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
> To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
>
>
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
> <colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
> >
> > The 210 doesn't have lesser DACs it U50D does (1bit). The 910/90 has
four
> > 20-bit and the 210 has six 20-bit. Am I wrong?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tom Beall
> > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> >
> >
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Tom Beall" <tom@gehrtroberts.com>
> >
> > Not only that, why settle for the inferior D/A converters in the 210.
It
> > just seems wrong to by-pass the D/A section in the 910 or 90 (i.e., four
> > 20-bit converters) and send your signal to the lesser processors in the
> 210.
> > The 4000x is the only way to go.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> > To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: RE: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> >
> >
> > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> > >
> > > I personally wouldn't ever buy the XDP-210.
> > >
> > > When I had mine setup in the car, it had an inherent hiss
> > > that wasn't noticeable, until I turned the volume past 40.
> > > (This was done with the CDX-C910)
> > >
> > > I mean, with a sound test CD, you could hear the hiss, and let's face
> it:
> > You shouldn't have ANY hiss on any Sony ES
> > > product when using an optical or analog cable. I was not impressed,
and
> > in the end, Sony of Canada bought back the unit, as they were not able
to
> > repair it to my satisfaction. They advised that it was a design flaw.
> > >
> > > That's why I can't recommend it. I'd just opt for the 4000x...
> > >
> > > Daniel
> > > >
> > > > From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
> > > > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 03:55:09 EST
> > > > To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
> > > > Subject: RE: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> > > >
> > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
> > <colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
> > > >
> > > > I don't really like the U50D but am desperate for a 210 or 4000. SO
if
> > you
> > > > want to sell it you know i am dieing for one.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> > > > dbotel6500@rogers.com
> > > > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > > > Subject: Re: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, no spare 4000x... ;-) If I end up waking up
> > > > in need of some dire $$$, I'd probably post it up here
> > > > first, but I do like the unit a lot.
> > > >
> > > > Mind you, those new head units definatly have me wondering
> > > > if I should step up, but I would be so disapointed in the sound
> quality
> > if
> > > > it wasn't there.
> > > >
> > > > I had a spare XDP-U50, but that's a sold deal...that
> > > > was a very clean sounding DSP!
> > > >
> > > > Daniel
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
> > > > > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 03:36:50 EST
> > > > > To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
> > > > > Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> > > > >
> > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
> > > > <colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
> > > > >
> > > > > You have a spare what X4000 or C910? If it is a 4000 want to sell
> it?
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > > [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> > > > > dbotel6500@rogers.com
> > > > > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > The reset usually works wonders! But then maybe you should
> > > > > be on the lookout for a spare unit, as I have one underneath
> > > > > my desk... ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Damn, maybe I should sell my 2 CDX-C910's and get a CDX-C90, but
> > everyone
> > > > > scares me with the dim display!
> > > > >
> > > > > Daniel
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > > > > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 02:15:22 EST
> > > > > > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > Subject: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ok, I really scared myself. I reset the head unit, and the head
> unit
> > > > sees
> > > > > the
> > > > > > DSP. I was relunctant to do so, because the last time I reset
the
> > head
> > > > > unit, it
> > > > > > fried itself. Resulting in a $270 repair bill and a 4 month
wait.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks Daniel for the help. Before I read your comment, I had
> called
> > > > Erin,
> > > > > at
> > > > > > Rolling Thunder in San Rafel CA, to pick his brain to possible
> cure.
> > He
> > > > > > mentioned to reset the unit, and all should be well. And it was.
> > > > > > WHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Back to the drawing board to programming the setting.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks Tony
> > > > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey man,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Believe it or not, I was experiencing the same issue...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Try both of these:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1) Run the CDX-C910 without the Unilink cabling plugged in.
> > > > > > > Reset deck. Just to make sure that the unilink cable isn't
> > causing
> > > > > issues.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2) Unplug the remote wire from the deck, and see if the deck
> turns
> > on
> > > > at
> > > > > all.
> > > > > > > (I blew out my remote output long ago...you
> > > > > > > might want to try the antenna remote versus the amp remote)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 3) If you cannot get the deck running at all without any
> > accessories,
> > > > > there is
> > > > > > > something really wrong with your deck.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > :-(
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please post your findings,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Daniel
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > > > > > > Date: 2003/03/24 Mon AM 10:25:44 EST
> > > > > > > > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > > > > > > > Subject: XDP4000X-List: Still in MAJOR Trouble, Please help
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks Chris for the response.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've have checked some of the essential connection of the
> > processor.
> > > > > I've have
> > > > > > > > done well over 20,000 miles with the location of the
processor
> > and
> > > > all
> > > > > > > > connection to it without no problems.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've a routine of making sure all connection are sound
within
> > the
> > > > > sound
> > > > > > > system.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And the car was standing completely still, and I was into my
> > second
> > > > > hour of
> > > > > > > > computer work until the crash.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > At this moment, the amp and 4000x turn on, but the display
of
> > the
> > > > C910
> > > > > does
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > see the 4000x.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ***I am still interested in reading to whether or not that
the
> > 4000x
> > > > > has some
> > > > > > > > type of RESET switch or button. Please advise.
> > > > > > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > not to be down on you or anything- but you did go back ,
> and
> > > > check
> > > > > all
> > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > coneections again , didn t you?
> > > > > > > > > and , maybe you had a problem w/ the system totally
> > crashingon
> > > > you,
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > heard that happening before!!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > maybei don t know shit!- but just tring to kinda help
out-
> i
> > just
> > > > > got myne
> > > > > > > > > the other day- but proablly won t see the car for a month
or
> 2
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > i accually have a stupid qick question
> > > > > > > > > anyone in here know if i need to run the octical- and the
> > bus
> > > > > cable - or
> > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > > i just need to run the optical?
> > > > > > > > > i know, kinda stupid- but just thought i would put it out
> > there-
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > umm oh yeah- one other quick 1!!!!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > anyone ever remote mount there c-90
> > > > > > > > > should it be pretty easy for me to do that?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > thanks again
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > tim koehle
> > > > > > > > > sylvania ohio
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 1
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > 1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > 1
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
>
>The reset usually works wonders! But then maybe you should
>be on the lookout for a spare unit, as I have one underneath
>my desk... ;-)
>
>Damn, maybe I should sell my 2 CDX-C910's and get a CDX-C90, but everyone
>scares me with the dim display!
>
>Daniel
>
The display on the C90 is worse than the C910? Really? I didn't think it
could get any worse than the CDX-C910/XR-C900 display. That one was pretty
bad in the daytime sun.
Roland M.
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
>Reply-To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
>To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
>Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:50:35 -0000
>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
><colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
>
>The XDP-210EQ does have 20-bit DACs it is the U50D that did not have 20-bit
>DACs.
>
>
Yes, but the 20-bit (? not sure if they are 20-bit or 24-bit) D/As in the
210EQ are not as good as the D/As in the C90 itself. That is why people say
not to use a C90 with a 210EQ--use the XDP-4kX or nothing.
The XDP-4000X has 24-bit D/As by the way. The Crystal Semiconductor D/As in
the 4000X are superior to the 210EQs D/As and are suitable for the C90.
I have also heard that the circuit design in the 4000X is far superior to
the 210EQ as well. This I would beleive simply because if you look at the
insides of the units (and at their MSRPs) you can see the difference.
I think the U50D also had 20-bit D/As but I can't be sure of that.
In any case, whether the difference in the D/As can be heard is another
debate. Like I said some say the circuitry in the 210EQ kills it for being
a good match for the C90--the D/A difference may not be audible but they
argue the rest of the processor creates an audible difference.
I guess using the 210EQ with the C90 creates one advantage in that the 3
D/As (Front/Rear/Sub) allow for xover and EQ to be done in the digital
domain as opposed to any crossover that the C90 does itself (does the C90
have any xover capability?) which has to be in the analog domain (if it is
different for the 3 outputs) because it uses a dual-D/A configuration for
the stereo pair, not for the output pairs.
I dunno if I would hear the difference, but personally if I had a C90 I
would rather have a 4000X.
Roland M.
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| Subject: | Re: Major Trouble |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Daniel Botelho <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
Sorry, Colin.
It's not just me! :-) And no, I'm not trying to start a flame war, but
the truth needs to be told. I'm not the only one
with this problem...
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=3804EF86.9F9A4274%40t-online.de&rnum=5&prev=/groups%3Fq%3DXDP-210eq%2Bnoise%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26scoring%3Dd
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=%25ikI2.9008%24uH4.2132897%40news2.mco&rnum=6&prev=/groups%3Fq%3DXDP-210eq%2Bnoise%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26scoring%3Dd
(Copy and paste above into browser)
It's a terrific unit, but works well if you keep the volume on your
headunit low...Take a dead -40db audio track,
burn it on a CD, and put it into the deck. Turn up the volume, and you
will hear a hiss...it's more noticeable after
40 on the volume control on my CDX-C910.
I went thru a lot of trouble to prove this to a sony tech. I even went
thru the trouble of removing my headunit, and
wired it into his test bench. We tested both the DSP RCA outs as well
as the CDX-C910 outputs with my test disc,
as well as his sony test disc. We wired up the gear to an in-house
amplifier with a set of headphones. Sure enough, the CDX-C910 was dead
quiet at the RCA outputs, even with the volume cranked up to 60...but
once we hooked up the
XDP-210, after the volume was turned up at around 40, the low volume
hiss was audible, and after 49, it was pretty
loud.
The tech was even patient enough to wire in the XDP-U50, and that unit
did not exibit any of the noise problems that
the 210 was showing...at that point, he spoke with his supervisor, and 2
days later, Sony called me up, and advised that
since they were not able to correct the problem, they would buy it back.
(Now THAT'S customer service!)
Sure, if you were listening to music, you would not hear the hiss. This
is a given. However, when you spend $400-800
on some audio gear that has ultra-clean specs that aren't, that's a
crime. If I wanted hiss, I'd buy an xplod unit... :-)
My 2 cents,
Colin (DP Motorsport) wrote:
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
>
>I think you maybe had a faulty one, as I've heard a couple and there was no
>hiss whatsoever and was very impressed with it.
>
>Anyway i just want one a 210 or 4000 as i don't have either.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
>dbotel6500@rogers.com
>To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
>
>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
>
>I personally wouldn't ever buy the XDP-210.
>
>When I had mine setup in the car, it had an inherent hiss
>that wasn't noticeable, until I turned the volume past 40.
>(This was done with the CDX-C910)
>
>I mean, with a sound test CD, you could hear the hiss, and let's face it:
>You shouldn't have ANY hiss on any Sony ES
>product when using an optical or analog cable. I was not impressed, and in
>the end, Sony of Canada bought back the unit, as they were not able to
>repair it to my satisfaction. They advised that it was a design flaw.
>
>That's why I can't recommend it. I'd just opt for the 4000x...
>
>Daniel
>
>
>>From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
>>Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 03:55:09 EST
>>To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
>>Subject: RE: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
>>
>>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
>>
>>
><colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
>
>
>>I don't really like the U50D but am desperate for a 210 or 4000. SO if you
>>want to sell it you know i am dieing for one.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
>>dbotel6500@rogers.com
>>To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Re: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
>>
>>
>>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
>>
>>Sorry, no spare 4000x... ;-) If I end up waking up
>>in need of some dire $$$, I'd probably post it up here
>>first, but I do like the unit a lot.
>>
>>Mind you, those new head units definatly have me wondering
>>if I should step up, but I would be so disapointed in the sound quality if
>>it wasn't there.
>>
>>I had a spare XDP-U50, but that's a sold deal...that
>>was a very clean sounding DSP!
>>
>>Daniel
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
>>>Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 03:36:50 EST
>>>To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
>>>Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
>>>
>>>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
>>>
>>>
>><colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
>>
>>
>>>You have a spare what X4000 or C910? If it is a 4000 want to sell it?
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
>>>[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
>>>dbotel6500@rogers.com
>>>To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
>>>Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
>>>
>>>
>>>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
>>>
>>>:-)
>>>
>>>The reset usually works wonders! But then maybe you should
>>>be on the lookout for a spare unit, as I have one underneath
>>>my desk... ;-)
>>>
>>>Damn, maybe I should sell my 2 CDX-C910's and get a CDX-C90, but
>>>
>>>
>everyone
>
>
>>>scares me with the dim display!
>>>
>>>Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: aprintis@attbi.com
>>>>Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 02:15:22 EST
>>>>To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
>>>>Subject: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
>>>>
>>>>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
>>>>
>>>>Ok, I really scared myself. I reset the head unit, and the head unit
>>>>
>>>>
>>sees
>>
>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>>DSP. I was relunctant to do so, because the last time I reset the head
>>>>
>>>>
>>>unit, it
>>>
>>>
>>>>fried itself. Resulting in a $270 repair bill and a 4 month wait.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks Daniel for the help. Before I read your comment, I had called
>>>>
>>>>
>>Erin,
>>
>>
>>>at
>>>
>>>
>>>>Rolling Thunder in San Rafel CA, to pick his brain to possible cure.
>>>>
>>>>
>He
>
>
>>>>mentioned to reset the unit, and all should be well. And it was.
>>>>WHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>>Back to the drawing board to programming the setting.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks Tony
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>Hey man,
>>>>>
>>>>>Believe it or not, I was experiencing the same issue...
>>>>>
>>>>>Try both of these:
>>>>>
>>>>>1) Run the CDX-C910 without the Unilink cabling plugged in.
>>>>>Reset deck. Just to make sure that the unilink cable isn't causing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>issues.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>2) Unplug the remote wire from the deck, and see if the deck turns
>>>>>
>>>>>
>on
>
>
>>at
>>
>>
>>>all.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>(I blew out my remote output long ago...you
>>>>>might want to try the antenna remote versus the amp remote)
>>>>>
>>>>>3) If you cannot get the deck running at all without any
>>>>>
>>>>>
>accessories,
>
>
>>>there is
>>>
>>>
>>>>>something really wrong with your deck.
>>>>>
>>>>>:-(
>>>>>
>>>>>Please post your findings,
>>>>>
>>>>>Daniel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>From: aprintis@attbi.com
>>>>>>Date: 2003/03/24 Mon AM 10:25:44 EST
>>>>>>To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
>>>>>>Subject: XDP4000X-List: Still in MAJOR Trouble, Please help
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks Chris for the response.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I've have checked some of the essential connection of the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>processor.
>
>
>>>I've have
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>done well over 20,000 miles with the location of the processor and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>all
>>
>>
>>>>>>connection to it without no problems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I've a routine of making sure all connection are sound within the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>sound
>>>
>>>
>>>>>system.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>And the car was standing completely still, and I was into my
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>second
>
>
>>>hour of
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>computer work until the crash.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At this moment, the amp and 4000x turn on, but the display of the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>C910
>>
>>
>>>does
>>>
>>>
>>>>>not
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>see the 4000x.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>***I am still interested in reading to whether or not that the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>4000x
>
>
>>>has some
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>type of RESET switch or button. Please advise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>not to be down on you or anything- but you did go back , and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>check
>>
>>
>>>all
>>>
>>>
>>>>>your
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>coneections again , didn t you?
>>>>>>>and , maybe you had a problem w/ the system totally crashingon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>you,
>>
>>
>>>have
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>heard that happening before!!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>maybei don t know shit!- but just tring to kinda help out- i
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>just
>
>
>>>got myne
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>the other day- but proablly won t see the car for a month or 2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i accually have a stupid qick question
>>>>>>>anyone in here know if i need to run the octical- and the bus
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>cable - or
>>>
>>>
>>>>>do
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>i just need to run the optical?
>>>>>>>i know, kinda stupid- but just thought i would put it out
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>there-
>
>
>>>>>>>umm oh yeah- one other quick 1!!!!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>anyone ever remote mount there c-90
>>>>>>>should it be pretty easy for me to do that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>thanks again
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>tim koehle
>>>>>>>sylvania ohio
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>1
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>1
>
>
>
>
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Daniel Botelho <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
*grin*
Yes, the CDX-C910 is bad in the sun...but the C90 is worse...
I'm sure some people will agree with this...I love the 90 for it's
modern display and dot matrix text, but if I can only read it at night,
it's kinda useless...
But I'd be curious to hear what anyone else has to say though...
Daniel
Roland M wrote:
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>
>
>
>>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
>>
>>The reset usually works wonders! But then maybe you should
>>be on the lookout for a spare unit, as I have one underneath
>>my desk... ;-)
>>
>>Damn, maybe I should sell my 2 CDX-C910's and get a CDX-C90, but everyone
>>scares me with the dim display!
>>
>>Daniel
>>
>>
>>
>
>The display on the C90 is worse than the C910? Really? I didn't think it
>could get any worse than the CDX-C910/XR-C900 display. That one was pretty
>bad in the daytime sun.
>
>Roland M.
>
>
>
>
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Daniel Botelho <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
Software updates on the XDP4k???
I wish there was an update...those blasted crossover curves,
dammit!...kinda reminds me of the cursed gated shifters in the
ferrari's.... ;-)
Daniel
aprintis@attbi.com wrote:
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
>
>Well, I knew that the C910 is a tempermental beast when I bought it. For a hobby,
car
>stereo equipment can be very expensive (especially once you factor in installation
>charges). I did quite alot of research before picking on this one. If, I had a
couple more
>bucks, I would step up to the C90. For the ratio of sound quality and expenditures,
C910
>is not that bad. Compared to spending $4000 for a Alpine F1, now that is the BOMB
of
>car stereo equipment.
>
>I feel that Sony has completely MISS THE BOAT for the ES customers. They should
>provide us 4000x users patch software that expands the crossover capablities that
we
>are desperate need for a nominal fee. There by keeping us happy and loyal. If
they
>weren't interested themselves, with their expertise in development, they could
be finished
>in quick snap. Then, sell the rights and infrastructue to a interested party or
to Matronics.
>
>But, what do I know. I am poor, dreaming, Sony Sap, who is stuck at a crossover
point of
>793hz wanting to go down to 600hz.
>
>Tony
>
>
>>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
>>
>>:-)
>>
>>The reset usually works wonders! But then maybe you should
>>be on the lookout for a spare unit, as I have one underneath
>>my desk... ;-)
>>
>>Damn, maybe I should sell my 2 CDX-C910's and get a CDX-C90, but everyone scares
>>me with the dim display!
>>
>>Daniel
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: aprintis@attbi.com
>>>Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 02:15:22 EST
>>>To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
>>>Subject: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
>>>
>>>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
>>>
>>>Ok, I really scared myself. I reset the head unit, and the head unit sees the
>>>DSP. I was relunctant to do so, because the last time I reset the head unit,
>>>
>>>
>>it
>>
>>
>>>fried itself. Resulting in a $270 repair bill and a 4 month wait.
>>>
>>>Thanks Daniel for the help. Before I read your comment, I had called Erin, at
>>>Rolling Thunder in San Rafel CA, to pick his brain to possible cure. He
>>>mentioned to reset the unit, and all should be well. And it was.
>>>WHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>>Back to the drawing board to programming the setting.
>>>
>>>Thanks Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
>>>>
>>>>Hey man,
>>>>
>>>>Believe it or not, I was experiencing the same issue...
>>>>
>>>>Try both of these:
>>>>
>>>>1) Run the CDX-C910 without the Unilink cabling plugged in.
>>>>Reset deck. Just to make sure that the unilink cable isn't causing issues.
>>>>
>>>>2) Unplug the remote wire from the deck, and see if the deck turns on at
>>>>
>>>>
>>all.
>>
>>
>>>>(I blew out my remote output long ago...you
>>>>might want to try the antenna remote versus the amp remote)
>>>>
>>>>3) If you cannot get the deck running at all without any accessories, there
>>>>
>>>>
>>is
>>
>>
>>>>something really wrong with your deck.
>>>>
>>>>:-(
>>>>
>>>>Please post your findings,
>>>>
>>>>Daniel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>From: aprintis@attbi.com
>>>>>Date: 2003/03/24 Mon AM 10:25:44 EST
>>>>>To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
>>>>>Subject: XDP4000X-List: Still in MAJOR Trouble, Please help
>>>>>
>>>>>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks Chris for the response.
>>>>>
>>>>>I've have checked some of the essential connection of the processor. I've
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>have
>>
>>
>>>>>done well over 20,000 miles with the location of the processor and all
>>>>>connection to it without no problems.
>>>>>
>>>>>I've a routine of making sure all connection are sound within the sound
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>system.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>And the car was standing completely still, and I was into my second hour
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>of
>>
>>
>>>>>computer work until the crash.
>>>>>
>>>>>At this moment, the amp and 4000x turn on, but the display of the C910
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>does
>>
>>
>>>>not
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>see the 4000x.
>>>>>
>>>>>***I am still interested in reading to whether or not that the 4000x has
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>some
>>
>>
>>>>>type of RESET switch or button. Please advise.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>not to be down on you or anything- but you did go back , and check all
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>your
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>coneections again , didn t you?
>>>>>>and , maybe you had a problem w/ the system totally crashingon you,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>have
>>
>>
>>>>>>heard that happening before!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>maybei don t know shit!- but just tring to kinda help out- i just got
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>myne
>>
>>
>>>>>>the other day- but proablly won t see the car for a month or 2
>>>>>>
>>>>>>i accually have a stupid qick question
>>>>>>anyone in here know if i need to run the octical- and the bus cable -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>or
>>
>>
>>>>do
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>i just need to run the optical?
>>>>>>i know, kinda stupid- but just thought i would put it out there-
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>umm oh yeah- one other quick 1!!!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>anyone ever remote mount there c-90
>>>>>>should it be pretty easy for me to do that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>thanks again
>>>>>>
>>>>>>tim koehle
>>>>>>sylvania ohio
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Major Trouble |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Bobby" <mrblackc@msn.com>
I don't know for sure about the c910, but I know that the c90 counts upwards
from -75 db to 0 db, getting louder the closer you get to 0. How is it that
you are hearing more noise at the level 49 as opposed to the level of 45?
I've owned a c910 and a c90(currently) and used a 210eq with both units. I
might be wrong here, it's been a long time since I've used a c910, it might
count the other way, but in neither setup did I have any of the problems
that you described. The only things I noticed about the unit were the
unclean and distorted mids that were uncontrollable by the selectable
frequencies. I thought that the overall noise floor was very low, even
during the quiet parts of music. I find myself wondering if you maybe you
were just really unlucky or if something else factored in, because I was
overall pretty happy with the sound quality of the 210eq. In fact, even
after switching over to the 4000x, there are still some things I find that I
miss about the ease of use of the 210eq. I'll be the first to admit that to
4000x is superior to the 210eq in sound quality in every way. From the
audible peaks, the noise floor, to the overall cleanliness of the sound as a
whole. But I think it's almost unfair to look at the 210 eq in such a way.
For people on a budget, at the time, and even now, the unit is still a cut
above the competition in it's class as far as I'm concerned. But, that's
just my opinion.
Bobby
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Botelho" <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Daniel Botelho
<dbotel6500@rogers.com>
>
> Software updates on the XDP4k???
>
> I wish there was an update...those blasted crossover curves,
> dammit!...kinda reminds me of the cursed gated shifters in the
> ferrari's.... ;-)
>
> Daniel
>
> aprintis@attbi.com wrote:
>
> >--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
> >
> >Well, I knew that the C910 is a tempermental beast when I bought it. For
a hobby, car
> >stereo equipment can be very expensive (especially once you factor in
installation
> >charges). I did quite alot of research before picking on this one. If, I
had a couple more
> >bucks, I would step up to the C90. For the ratio of sound quality and
expenditures, C910
> >is not that bad. Compared to spending $4000 for a Alpine F1, now that is
the BOMB of
> >car stereo equipment.
> >
> >I feel that Sony has completely MISS THE BOAT for the ES customers. They
should
> >provide us 4000x users patch software that expands the crossover
capablities that we
> >are desperate need for a nominal fee. There by keeping us happy and
loyal. If they
> >weren't interested themselves, with their expertise in development, they
could be finished
> >in quick snap. Then, sell the rights and infrastructue to a interested
party or to Matronics.
> >
> >But, what do I know. I am poor, dreaming, Sony Sap, who is stuck at a
crossover point of
> >793hz wanting to go down to 600hz.
> >
> >Tony
> >
> >
> >>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> >>
> >>:-)
> >>
> >>The reset usually works wonders! But then maybe you should
> >>be on the lookout for a spare unit, as I have one underneath
> >>my desk... ;-)
> >>
> >>Damn, maybe I should sell my 2 CDX-C910's and get a CDX-C90, but
everyone scares
> >>me with the dim display!
> >>
> >>Daniel
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: aprintis@attbi.com
> >>>Date: 2003/03/24 Mon PM 02:15:22 EST
> >>>To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> >>>Subject: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
> >>>
> >>>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
> >>>
> >>>Ok, I really scared myself. I reset the head unit, and the head unit
sees the
> >>>DSP. I was relunctant to do so, because the last time I reset the head
unit,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>it
> >>
> >>
> >>>fried itself. Resulting in a $270 repair bill and a 4 month wait.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks Daniel for the help. Before I read your comment, I had called
Erin, at
> >>>Rolling Thunder in San Rafel CA, to pick his brain to possible cure. He
> >>>mentioned to reset the unit, and all should be well. And it was.
> >>>WHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >>>
> >>>Back to the drawing board to programming the setting.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks Tony
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> >>>>
> >>>>Hey man,
> >>>>
> >>>>Believe it or not, I was experiencing the same issue...
> >>>>
> >>>>Try both of these:
> >>>>
> >>>>1) Run the CDX-C910 without the Unilink cabling plugged in.
> >>>>Reset deck. Just to make sure that the unilink cable isn't causing
issues.
> >>>>
> >>>>2) Unplug the remote wire from the deck, and see if the deck turns on
at
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>all.
> >>
> >>
> >>>>(I blew out my remote output long ago...you
> >>>>might want to try the antenna remote versus the amp remote)
> >>>>
> >>>>3) If you cannot get the deck running at all without any accessories,
there
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>is
> >>
> >>
> >>>>something really wrong with your deck.
> >>>>
> >>>>:-(
> >>>>
> >>>>Please post your findings,
> >>>>
> >>>>Daniel
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>From: aprintis@attbi.com
> >>>>>Date: 2003/03/24 Mon AM 10:25:44 EST
> >>>>>To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> >>>>>Subject: XDP4000X-List: Still in MAJOR Trouble, Please help
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Thanks Chris for the response.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I've have checked some of the essential connection of the processor.
I've
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>have
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>done well over 20,000 miles with the location of the processor and
all
> >>>>>connection to it without no problems.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I've a routine of making sure all connection are sound within the
sound
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>system.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>And the car was standing completely still, and I was into my second
hour
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>of
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>computer work until the crash.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>At this moment, the amp and 4000x turn on, but the display of the
C910
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>does
> >>
> >>
> >>>>not
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>see the 4000x.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>***I am still interested in reading to whether or not that the 4000x
has
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>some
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>type of RESET switch or button. Please advise.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>not to be down on you or anything- but you did go back , and check
all
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>your
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>coneections again , didn t you?
> >>>>>>and , maybe you had a problem w/ the system totally crashingon you,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>have
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>heard that happening before!!!!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>maybei don t know shit!- but just tring to kinda help out- i just
got
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>myne
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>the other day- but proablly won t see the car for a month or 2
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>i accually have a stupid qick question
> >>>>>>anyone in here know if i need to run the octical- and the bus
cable -
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>or
> >>
> >>
> >>>>do
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>i just need to run the optical?
> >>>>>>i know, kinda stupid- but just thought i would put it out there-
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>umm oh yeah- one other quick 1!!!!!!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>anyone ever remote mount there c-90
> >>>>>>should it be pretty easy for me to do that?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>thanks again
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>tim koehle
> >>>>>>sylvania ohio
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>1
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>1
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Major Trouble |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: NOTGSXR@aol.com
In a message dated 3/24/03 11:10:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,
dbotel6500@rogers.com writes:
> *grin*
>
> Yes, the CDX-C910 is bad in the sun...but the C90 is worse...
>
> I'm sure some people will agree with this...I love the 90 for it's
> modern display and dot matrix text, but if I can only read it at night,
> it's kinda useless...
>
> But I'd be curious to hear what anyone else has to say though...
>
> Daniel
>
Kinda makes me glad i have a 910 :)
Dan
P.S. How are the PQ 20's doing? :)
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
>Reply-To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
>To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RE: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
>Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:59:26 -0000
>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
><colin@DP-Motorsport.co.uk>
>
>The 210 doesn't have lesser DACs it U50D does (1bit). The 910/90 has four
>20-bit and the 210 has six 20-bit. Am I wrong?
Sort of. The C90 and C910 have "dual D/A converters". Each only has 2
AFAIK. This means one D/A is used for the left and one D/A is used for the
right channel. I don't remember how many bit the D/As are in the HUs but
I'm thinking it was 20-bit in the C910 and 24-bit in the C90, if I am wrong
they are probably 24-bit in both. Does anyone know the model # of the D/As
in the C910? In the C90?
The XDP-210EQ has 3 D/As, one per output PAIR. (Front/Rear/Sub). The
XDP-4000X has 4 D/As, again one per output PAIR. (A/B/C/D which can be used
in a variety of ways like FrontHigh/FrontMid/FrontMidbass/Sub or
FH/FM/Rear/Sub, etc.). The 4000X's D/As are 24-bit Delta Sigma design made
by Crystal Semiconductor, as I said in the last post.
Roland M.
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| Subject: | Re: Major Trouble |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>From: Daniel Botelho <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
>Reply-To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
>To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Major Trouble
>Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 23:07:22 -0500
>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Daniel Botelho <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
>Sure, if you were listening to music, you would not hear the hiss. This
>is a given. However, when you spend $400-800
>on some audio gear that has ultra-clean specs that aren't, that's a
>crime. If I wanted hiss, I'd buy an xplod unit... :-)
>
>My 2 cents,
>
>Colin (DP Motorsport) wrote:
>
Ha! :D As I always like to point out, the XDP-4000X IS and Xplod unit! :D
That is what the "X" is there for. I see your point and everything, but
this was just a little humour :)
Roland M.
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