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1. 06:55 AM - XT-100DAB question (ToR)
2. 07:06 AM - XCH-1000 unilink phone adaptor (ToR)
3. 07:28 AM - C90 and 4000x (aprintis@attbi.com)
4. 09:43 AM - Re: XT-100DAB question (Pete)
5. 10:20 AM - Re: XT-100DAB question (Colin (DP Motorsport))
6. 10:48 AM - XDP-4000X/210EQ optical question (ToR)
7. 11:05 AM - Re: XT-100DAB question (Pete)
8. 11:47 AM - Re: XDP-4000X/210EQ optical question (Roland M)
9. 11:48 AM - Re: XT-100DAB question (Colin (DP Motorsport))
10. 11:53 AM - Re: XT-100DAB question (Roland M)
11. 11:57 AM - Re: XT-100DAB question (Roland M)
12. 12:13 PM - Re: XT-100DAB question (Pete)
13. 12:25 PM - Re: XT-100DAB question (Colin (DP Motorsport))
14. 12:34 PM - Re: XT-100DAB question (Colin (DP Motorsport))
15. 12:41 PM - Re: XT-100DAB question (Colin (DP Motorsport))
16. 12:44 PM - Re: XT-100DAB question (ToR)
17. 01:39 PM - Re: XT-100DAB question (Pete)
18. 01:59 PM - Re: Re: XT-100DAB question ()
19. 02:14 PM - Re: XT-100DAB question (Colin (DP Motorsport))
20. 02:20 PM - Re: XT-100DAB question (Yippy234@aol.com)
21. 02:48 PM - Re: XT-100DAB question (Colin (DP Motorsport))
22. 03:00 PM - Re: XT-100DAB question (Yippy234@aol.com)
23. 03:07 PM - Re: XT-100DAB question (Colin (DP Motorsport))
24. 03:16 PM - frequency response tests for C90 (in croatian?) (ToR)
25. 05:00 PM - Re: XT-100DAB question (Doug Dobson)
26. 05:47 PM - Re: XT-100DAB question (Bobby)
27. 08:20 PM - Re: XT-100DAB question (Roland M)
28. 08:23 PM - Re: XT-100DAB question (Roland M)
29. 08:26 PM - Re: XT-100DAB question (Doug Dobson)
30. 08:27 PM - Re: XT-100DAB question (Roland M)
31. 08:30 PM - Re: XT-100DAB question (Daniel Botelho)
32. 08:30 PM - Re: XT-100DAB question (Roland M)
33. 09:03 PM - Re: XT-100DAB question (Mark Laird)
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| Subject: | XT-100DAB question |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "ToR" <calculathor@hotmail.com>
Pete, (or anyone who has the sony XT-100DAB tuner)
Could you tell me about the dab tuner and your system
What head unit are you using it with?
As what does it show up in the head unit? Ex(cd,tv,md,aux etc?)
Do you have any problems with it?
Where are you located?
How many channels are there in your area
Any problems with reception?
Are you happy with it and would you recommend it?
Also in the specs it says it is Dual Band receiver (Band III/L band), is
that enough? I mean I wonder if there are any broadcasts existing on
bands other than band III and L band?
I would appreciate any feedback on this
Thanks
ToR
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com Behalf Of Pete
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Pete" <dabrow@orange.net>
>
> I have the DAB tuner. It is expensive as it sells here for 480.00 at
> best! It has optical out which is great for the xdp-4000x and is of a
> high quality. All stations are free, the tuner was actually one of the
> first launched, it was developed before the dab broadcasts were up and
> running. It was intended to be used with the XES Z50 and that is why I
> believe it is so expensive.
>
> C90r's are hard to find, very occasionally they come up in Europe,
even
> then the sellers get a good price for them compare to the American
> prices.
>
> Pete
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| Subject: | XCH-1000 unilink phone adaptor |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "ToR" <calculathor@hotmail.com>
Does any one have any knowledge about this piece?
It's for connecting cell phone to unilink
Here's the link in japan
http://www.sony.jp/products/Models/Library/XCH-1000.html
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: aprintis@attbi.com
Hey Guy's,
Someone at Carsound forum is selling their C90 and 4000x. Just passing the
word.
http://www.carsound.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=20;t=001623
Check it out, Tony
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| Subject: | XT-100DAB question |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Pete" <dabrow@orange.net>
ToR,
I have the dab attached to the XDP-4000x as a changer. It is hooked up
optically via the toslink. The 4000x is used in conjunction to a c90r.
The dab allows you to plug a changer into it and has a digital input for
pass through to the xdp-4000x. So good news if you are using a changer
with optical output.
I have no real problems with it. It should be noted that it was designed
before dab was broadcast and is a 1st generation unit. Nothing really to
read into this as it is very good quality sound. Only problem I have is
I dont have the antenna on the outside of the car yet so my reception
is as good as useless.
When the antenna is on the roof it works really well and I have no
problems.
The text service for what you are currently listening too are supported
apparently but I have yet to get that information displayed as I believe
it should do.
I am located in England. Service is good in most areas.
There is a wide range of channels in my area, local and national, better
than I expected. Many stations that were broadcast in MW or even LW are
now broadcast in stereo that is nice.
I am happy with it but I bought it second hand and did not have to pay
the 480 (at best UK Price) so I'm happy. They are not very easy to find
second hand - I was lucky.
The bands I believe are ample as far as I know.
Basically, its an old high quality piece, that may lack in features
(supported wise and even ease of use). Sonically it is excellent and is
(I think) the only one available with digital out which makes it perfect
for the 4000x. It was designed to be used with the XES-Z50 system too,
so that speaks volumes!
Hope that helps,
Pete
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| Subject: | XT-100DAB question |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
Pete,
See how your selling your CDX-C90 and your 4000x well i have just bought a
4000x. Are you selling your DAB unit and changer as well? IF so i would be
interested.
Colin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Pete
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Pete" <dabrow@orange.net>
ToR,
I have the dab attached to the XDP-4000x as a changer. It is hooked up
optically via the toslink. The 4000x is used in conjunction to a c90r.
The dab allows you to plug a changer into it and has a digital input for
pass through to the xdp-4000x. So good news if you are using a changer
with optical output.
I have no real problems with it. It should be noted that it was designed
before dab was broadcast and is a 1st generation unit. Nothing really to
read into this as it is very good quality sound. Only problem I have is
I dont have the antenna on the outside of the car yet so my reception
is as good as useless.
When the antenna is on the roof it works really well and I have no
problems.
The text service for what you are currently listening too are supported
apparently but I have yet to get that information displayed as I believe
it should do.
I am located in England. Service is good in most areas.
There is a wide range of channels in my area, local and national, better
than I expected. Many stations that were broadcast in MW or even LW are
now broadcast in stereo that is nice.
I am happy with it but I bought it second hand and did not have to pay
the 480 (at best UK Price) so I'm happy. They are not very easy to find
second hand - I was lucky.
The bands I believe are ample as far as I know.
Basically, its an old high quality piece, that may lack in features
(supported wise and even ease of use). Sonically it is excellent and is
(I think) the only one available with digital out which makes it perfect
for the 4000x. It was designed to be used with the XES-Z50 system too,
so that speaks volumes!
Hope that helps,
Pete
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| Subject: | XDP-4000X/210EQ optical question |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "ToR" <calculathor@hotmail.com>
Does anyone know if;
Would it be possible to trick the pre amp to take optical in, when let's
say an analog cd changer is connected and chosen to play, and then
manually feeding some optical source to the changer optical input?
Or if I have an external analog to digital converter hooked up to the
changer line out and feed it to XDP? (I know it wouldn't make sense in
quality but I have something else in mind, I'll explain later)
Or If I have a hand held device that has optical out, would it be
possible to feed its output to the XDP and switch between master and
changer inputs?
In both cases when a changer is connected and not?
Thanks
ToR.
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| Subject: | XT-100DAB question |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Pete" <dabrow@orange.net>
Colin,
No longer selling them anymore, I just need a changer either the XES-C1
or the cdx-848x and the 10 disc mp3 changer as well.
Only wish was that the xdp-4000x had some better x-over points, it could
be much better in that respect.
Good to hear you went for the 4000x, good choice over the 210.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colin (DP
Motorsport)
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
<colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
Pete,
See how your selling your CDX-C90 and your 4000x well i have just bought
a
4000x. Are you selling your DAB unit and changer as well? IF so i would
be
interested.
Colin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Pete
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Pete" <dabrow@orange.net>
ToR,
I have the dab attached to the XDP-4000x as a changer. It is hooked up
optically via the toslink. The 4000x is used in conjunction to a c90r.
The dab allows you to plug a changer into it and has a digital input for
pass through to the xdp-4000x. So good news if you are using a changer
with optical output.
I have no real problems with it. It should be noted that it was designed
before dab was broadcast and is a 1st generation unit. Nothing really to
read into this as it is very good quality sound. Only problem I have is
I dont have the antenna on the outside of the car yet so my reception
is as good as useless.
When the antenna is on the roof it works really well and I have no
problems.
The text service for what you are currently listening too are supported
apparently but I have yet to get that information displayed as I believe
it should do.
I am located in England. Service is good in most areas.
There is a wide range of channels in my area, local and national, better
than I expected. Many stations that were broadcast in MW or even LW are
now broadcast in stereo that is nice.
I am happy with it but I bought it second hand and did not have to pay
the 480 (at best UK Price) so I'm happy. They are not very easy to find
second hand - I was lucky.
The bands I believe are ample as far as I know.
Basically, its an old high quality piece, that may lack in features
(supported wise and even ease of use). Sonically it is excellent and is
(I think) the only one available with digital out which makes it perfect
for the 4000x. It was designed to be used with the XES-Z50 system too,
so that speaks volumes!
Hope that helps,
Pete
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| Subject: | Re: XDP-4000X/210EQ optical question |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>From: "ToR" <calculathor@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
>To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: XDP4000X-List: XDP-4000X/210EQ optical question
>Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 13:46:57 -0500
>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "ToR" <calculathor@hotmail.com>
>
>Does anyone know if;
>Would it be possible to trick the pre amp to take optical in, when let's
>say an analog cd changer is connected and chosen to play, and then
>manually feeding some optical source to the changer optical input?
>Or if I have an external analog to digital converter hooked up to the
>changer line out and feed it to XDP? (I know it wouldn't make sense in
>quality but I have something else in mind, I'll explain later)
>Or If I have a hand held device that has optical out, would it be
>possible to feed its output to the XDP and switch between master and
>changer inputs?
>In both cases when a changer is connected and not?
>Thanks
>ToR.
No you can't do that. Well you could do it if you had a changer with
optical output and the switch was set to optical on the changer, BUT you
would have to sacrifice the audio from the changer. You could always use
some kind of passive Toslink switcher and press the buttons on it to change
the source when you put the HU in changer mode.
The XDP units will ONLY look for an optical signal if the switch on the
respective unit (CD changer, HU, etc.) is set to digital. That is why the
units have a switch for analog/digital (the C90 uses a software switch, but
all other units have a physical switch on them).
When the switch on a changer is set to digital both the optical out and the
analog outs work, however the XDP will then use the digital input for that
device when it is selected. If the switch is set to analog (or it is an
analog only changer) the XDP will automatically revert to using the analog
inputs.
Other than the way I described (with a manual Toslink switcher) there is no
other way to get digital input into an XDP unit.
The only other thing I can think of is the XA-300... It has a USB digital
audio input (for PCs and Laptops) but it doesn't have optical out, only
analog. So using it would yeild the XA-300 doing the D/A and then the XDP
doing A/D-D/A on it like any other analog source. Also the XA-300 doesn't
have Toslink input, only USB digital and analog inputs.
Roland M.
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| Subject: | XT-100DAB question |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
Cheers Pete glad i went for the 4000x too.
Yea downloaded the software today, crossover points could be better. Anyone
know anything about the Beta 3 version?
Question on the MP3 changer can you use it with a HeadUnit that does not
have MP3?
Also when using the optical cable and the bus lead do you need to run the
RCAs for the radio?
BTW Pete I can get you the changer at a good price new 200 including
delivery.
Colin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Pete
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Pete" <dabrow@orange.net>
Colin,
No longer selling them anymore, I just need a changer either the XES-C1
or the cdx-848x and the 10 disc mp3 changer as well.
Only wish was that the xdp-4000x had some better x-over points, it could
be much better in that respect.
Good to hear you went for the 4000x, good choice over the 210.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colin (DP
Motorsport)
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
<colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
Pete,
See how your selling your CDX-C90 and your 4000x well i have just bought
a
4000x. Are you selling your DAB unit and changer as well? IF so i would
be
interested.
Colin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Pete
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Pete" <dabrow@orange.net>
ToR,
I have the dab attached to the XDP-4000x as a changer. It is hooked up
optically via the toslink. The 4000x is used in conjunction to a c90r.
The dab allows you to plug a changer into it and has a digital input for
pass through to the xdp-4000x. So good news if you are using a changer
with optical output.
I have no real problems with it. It should be noted that it was designed
before dab was broadcast and is a 1st generation unit. Nothing really to
read into this as it is very good quality sound. Only problem I have is
I dont have the antenna on the outside of the car yet so my reception
is as good as useless.
When the antenna is on the roof it works really well and I have no
problems.
The text service for what you are currently listening too are supported
apparently but I have yet to get that information displayed as I believe
it should do.
I am located in England. Service is good in most areas.
There is a wide range of channels in my area, local and national, better
than I expected. Many stations that were broadcast in MW or even LW are
now broadcast in stereo that is nice.
I am happy with it but I bought it second hand and did not have to pay
the 480 (at best UK Price) so I'm happy. They are not very easy to find
second hand - I was lucky.
The bands I believe are ample as far as I know.
Basically, its an old high quality piece, that may lack in features
(supported wise and even ease of use). Sonically it is excellent and is
(I think) the only one available with digital out which makes it perfect
for the 4000x. It was designed to be used with the XES-Z50 system too,
so that speaks volumes!
Hope that helps,
Pete
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| Subject: | XT-100DAB question |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Pete" <dabrow@orange.net>
>
>Colin,
>
>No longer selling them anymore, I just need a changer either the XES-C1
>or the cdx-848x and the 10 disc mp3 changer as well.
>
>
>Pete
Just as a note, I would point out that the CDX-828, 838 and 848X are all
identical changers except the fact that the 848X looks like a Transformer
(toy) and is red. The 838 and 828 are identical except the 838 is red. The
848X MIGHT play CD-RW but I don't think so. If it doesn't, it is identical
inside to the CDX-828 and CDX-838. That may help you in finding a changer
(unless you really want the design of an 848X that is).
Also you probably know this (?) but just be aware that the ID3 tags
(eventhough the MX changer reads them) don't display with a C90 and an MX
changer (e.g. CDX-747MX and CDX-70MX). The MP3s play fine but you get only
filenames (cut off at 8 chars or something), no ID3 dispay.
Roland M.
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| Subject: | XT-100DAB question |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
><colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
>
>
>Question on the MP3 changer can you use it with a HeadUnit that does not
>have MP3?
>
Yes, as long as it has UniLink. But on older units (including the C90) the
ID3 tags will NOT display (instead you get filenames cut off at 8 letters I
think). It is also difficult to skip tracks somewhat as there is no
skipping 10 or 100 tracks at once--you have to go one by one!
>Also when using the optical cable and the bus lead do you need to run the
>RCAs for the radio?
>
>BTW Pete I can get you the changer at a good price new 200 including
>delivery.
>
>Colin
Yes you do need to run regular RCAs for the radio.
Roland M.
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| Subject: | XT-100DAB question |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Pete" <dabrow@orange.net>
For the FM radio, you need the (front) analogue rca lead as well as the
optical for the cd.
The mp3 changer decodes the mp3 audio in the changer and is compatible
with the c90r, text is displayed as well up to a point.
Which changer is it the cdx-848x?
Hope that helps Colin.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colin (DP
Motorsport)
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
<colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
Cheers Pete glad i went for the 4000x too.
Yea downloaded the software today, crossover points could be better.
Anyone
know anything about the Beta 3 version?
Question on the MP3 changer can you use it with a HeadUnit that does not
have MP3?
Also when using the optical cable and the bus lead do you need to run
the
RCAs for the radio?
BTW Pete I can get you the changer at a good price new 200 including
delivery.
Colin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Pete
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Pete" <dabrow@orange.net>
Colin,
No longer selling them anymore, I just need a changer either the XES-C1
or the cdx-848x and the 10 disc mp3 changer as well.
Only wish was that the xdp-4000x had some better x-over points, it could
be much better in that respect.
Good to hear you went for the 4000x, good choice over the 210.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colin (DP
Motorsport)
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
<colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
Pete,
See how your selling your CDX-C90 and your 4000x well i have just bought
a
4000x. Are you selling your DAB unit and changer as well? IF so i would
be
interested.
Colin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Pete
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Pete" <dabrow@orange.net>
ToR,
I have the dab attached to the XDP-4000x as a changer. It is hooked up
optically via the toslink. The 4000x is used in conjunction to a c90r.
The dab allows you to plug a changer into it and has a digital input for
pass through to the xdp-4000x. So good news if you are using a changer
with optical output.
I have no real problems with it. It should be noted that it was designed
before dab was broadcast and is a 1st generation unit. Nothing really to
read into this as it is very good quality sound. Only problem I have is
I dont have the antenna on the outside of the car yet so my reception
is as good as useless.
When the antenna is on the roof it works really well and I have no
problems.
The text service for what you are currently listening too are supported
apparently but I have yet to get that information displayed as I believe
it should do.
I am located in England. Service is good in most areas.
There is a wide range of channels in my area, local and national, better
than I expected. Many stations that were broadcast in MW or even LW are
now broadcast in stereo that is nice.
I am happy with it but I bought it second hand and did not have to pay
the 480 (at best UK Price) so I'm happy. They are not very easy to find
second hand - I was lucky.
The bands I believe are ample as far as I know.
Basically, its an old high quality piece, that may lack in features
(supported wise and even ease of use). Sonically it is excellent and is
(I think) the only one available with digital out which makes it perfect
for the 4000x. It was designed to be used with the XES-Z50 system too,
so that speaks volumes!
Hope that helps,
Pete
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
BTW Pete that is the 6 disk, didn't know Sony did a 10 disk MP3 changer
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Colin (DP
Motorsport)
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
<colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
Cheers Pete glad i went for the 4000x too.
Yea downloaded the software today, crossover points could be better. Anyone
know anything about the Beta 3 version?
Question on the MP3 changer can you use it with a HeadUnit that does not
have MP3?
Also when using the optical cable and the bus lead do you need to run the
RCAs for the radio?
BTW Pete I can get you the changer at a good price new 200 including
delivery.
Colin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Pete
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Pete" <dabrow@orange.net>
Colin,
No longer selling them anymore, I just need a changer either the XES-C1
or the cdx-848x and the 10 disc mp3 changer as well.
Only wish was that the xdp-4000x had some better x-over points, it could
be much better in that respect.
Good to hear you went for the 4000x, good choice over the 210.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colin (DP
Motorsport)
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
<colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
Pete,
See how your selling your CDX-C90 and your 4000x well i have just bought
a
4000x. Are you selling your DAB unit and changer as well? IF so i would
be
interested.
Colin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Pete
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Pete" <dabrow@orange.net>
ToR,
I have the dab attached to the XDP-4000x as a changer. It is hooked up
optically via the toslink. The 4000x is used in conjunction to a c90r.
The dab allows you to plug a changer into it and has a digital input for
pass through to the xdp-4000x. So good news if you are using a changer
with optical output.
I have no real problems with it. It should be noted that it was designed
before dab was broadcast and is a 1st generation unit. Nothing really to
read into this as it is very good quality sound. Only problem I have is
I dont have the antenna on the outside of the car yet so my reception
is as good as useless.
When the antenna is on the roof it works really well and I have no
problems.
The text service for what you are currently listening too are supported
apparently but I have yet to get that information displayed as I believe
it should do.
I am located in England. Service is good in most areas.
There is a wide range of channels in my area, local and national, better
than I expected. Many stations that were broadcast in MW or even LW are
now broadcast in stereo that is nice.
I am happy with it but I bought it second hand and did not have to pay
the 480 (at best UK Price) so I'm happy. They are not very easy to find
second hand - I was lucky.
The bands I believe are ample as far as I know.
Basically, its an old high quality piece, that may lack in features
(supported wise and even ease of use). Sonically it is excellent and is
(I think) the only one available with digital out which makes it perfect
for the 4000x. It was designed to be used with the XES-Z50 system too,
so that speaks volumes!
Hope that helps,
Pete
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
Cheers Roland,
I don't mind the file names only but do you know if you can use folders and
skip the folders?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Roland M
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
><colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
>
>
>Question on the MP3 changer can you use it with a HeadUnit that does not
>have MP3?
>
Yes, as long as it has UniLink. But on older units (including the C90) the
ID3 tags will NOT display (instead you get filenames cut off at 8 letters I
think). It is also difficult to skip tracks somewhat as there is no
skipping 10 or 100 tracks at once--you have to go one by one!
>Also when using the optical cable and the bus lead do you need to run the
>RCAs for the radio?
>
>BTW Pete I can get you the changer at a good price new 200 including
>delivery.
>
>Colin
Yes you do need to run regular RCAs for the radio.
Roland M.
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
Cheers Pete!!
The changer is CDXT70MX
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Pete
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Pete" <dabrow@orange.net>
For the FM radio, you need the (front) analogue rca lead as well as the
optical for the cd.
The mp3 changer decodes the mp3 audio in the changer and is compatible
with the c90r, text is displayed as well up to a point.
Which changer is it the cdx-848x?
Hope that helps Colin.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colin (DP
Motorsport)
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
<colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
Cheers Pete glad i went for the 4000x too.
Yea downloaded the software today, crossover points could be better.
Anyone
know anything about the Beta 3 version?
Question on the MP3 changer can you use it with a HeadUnit that does not
have MP3?
Also when using the optical cable and the bus lead do you need to run
the
RCAs for the radio?
BTW Pete I can get you the changer at a good price new 200 including
delivery.
Colin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Pete
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Pete" <dabrow@orange.net>
Colin,
No longer selling them anymore, I just need a changer either the XES-C1
or the cdx-848x and the 10 disc mp3 changer as well.
Only wish was that the xdp-4000x had some better x-over points, it could
be much better in that respect.
Good to hear you went for the 4000x, good choice over the 210.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colin (DP
Motorsport)
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
<colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
Pete,
See how your selling your CDX-C90 and your 4000x well i have just bought
a
4000x. Are you selling your DAB unit and changer as well? IF so i would
be
interested.
Colin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Pete
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Pete" <dabrow@orange.net>
ToR,
I have the dab attached to the XDP-4000x as a changer. It is hooked up
optically via the toslink. The 4000x is used in conjunction to a c90r.
The dab allows you to plug a changer into it and has a digital input for
pass through to the xdp-4000x. So good news if you are using a changer
with optical output.
I have no real problems with it. It should be noted that it was designed
before dab was broadcast and is a 1st generation unit. Nothing really to
read into this as it is very good quality sound. Only problem I have is
I dont have the antenna on the outside of the car yet so my reception
is as good as useless.
When the antenna is on the roof it works really well and I have no
problems.
The text service for what you are currently listening too are supported
apparently but I have yet to get that information displayed as I believe
it should do.
I am located in England. Service is good in most areas.
There is a wide range of channels in my area, local and national, better
than I expected. Many stations that were broadcast in MW or even LW are
now broadcast in stereo that is nice.
I am happy with it but I bought it second hand and did not have to pay
the 480 (at best UK Price) so I'm happy. They are not very easy to find
second hand - I was lucky.
The bands I believe are ample as far as I know.
Basically, its an old high quality piece, that may lack in features
(supported wise and even ease of use). Sonically it is excellent and is
(I think) the only one available with digital out which makes it perfect
for the 4000x. It was designed to be used with the XES-Z50 system too,
so that speaks volumes!
Hope that helps,
Pete
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "ToR" <calculathor@hotmail.com>
I bought a new CDX-757mx from eBay for $138.99
It's a 10 disk MP3 changer
No digital out.
Crutchfield says : This unit will play pre-recorded CDs and finalized
CD-R and CD-RW discs. It will also playback CD-R and CD-RW discs encoded
with MP3 files, and is CD Text and ID3 tag capable.
Here's the link for detailed info at crutchfield
http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/S-YutpkDl2WjM/ProdView.asp?a=&s=0&cc01&g=600&id=detailed_info&i=158CDX757M
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
<colin@dp-
> motorsport.co.uk>
>
> BTW Pete that is the 6 disk, didn't know Sony did a 10 disk MP3
changer
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Colin
(DP
> Motorsport)
> To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
>
>
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
> <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
>
> Cheers Pete glad i went for the 4000x too.
>
> Yea downloaded the software today, crossover points could be better.
> Anyone
> know anything about the Beta 3 version?
>
> Question on the MP3 changer can you use it with a HeadUnit that does
not
> have MP3?
>
> Also when using the optical cable and the bus lead do you need to run
the
> RCAs for the radio?
>
> BTW Pete I can get you the changer at a good price new 200 including
> delivery.
>
> Colin
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Pete
> To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
>
>
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Pete" <dabrow@orange.net>
>
> Colin,
>
> No longer selling them anymore, I just need a changer either the
XES-C1
> or the cdx-848x and the 10 disc mp3 changer as well.
>
> Only wish was that the xdp-4000x had some better x-over points, it
could
> be much better in that respect.
>
> Good to hear you went for the 4000x, good choice over the 210.
>
> Pete
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colin
(DP
> Motorsport)
> To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
>
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
> <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
>
> Pete,
>
> See how your selling your CDX-C90 and your 4000x well i have just
bought
> a
> 4000x. Are you selling your DAB unit and changer as well? IF so i
would
> be
> interested.
>
> Colin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Pete
> To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
>
>
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Pete" <dabrow@orange.net>
>
> ToR,
>
> I have the dab attached to the XDP-4000x as a changer. It is hooked up
> optically via the toslink. The 4000x is used in conjunction to a c90r.
>
> The dab allows you to plug a changer into it and has a digital input
for
> pass through to the xdp-4000x. So good news if you are using a changer
> with optical output.
>
> I have no real problems with it. It should be noted that it was
designed
> before dab was broadcast and is a 1st generation unit. Nothing really
to
> read into this as it is very good quality sound. Only problem I have
is
> I dont have the antenna on the outside of the car yet so my reception
> is as good as useless.
>
> When the antenna is on the roof it works really well and I have no
> problems.
>
> The text service for what you are currently listening too are
supported
> apparently but I have yet to get that information displayed as I
believe
> it should do.
>
> I am located in England. Service is good in most areas.
>
> There is a wide range of channels in my area, local and national,
better
> than I expected. Many stations that were broadcast in MW or even LW
are
> now broadcast in stereo that is nice.
>
> I am happy with it but I bought it second hand and did not have to pay
> the 480 (at best UK Price) so I'm happy. They are not very easy to
find
> second hand - I was lucky.
>
> The bands I believe are ample as far as I know.
>
> Basically, its an old high quality piece, that may lack in features
> (supported wise and even ease of use). Sonically it is excellent and
is
> (I think) the only one available with digital out which makes it
perfect
> for the 4000x. It was designed to be used with the XES-Z50 system too,
> so that speaks volumes!
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Pete
>
>
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Pete" <dabrow@orange.net>
Colin,
Yeah you would be best getting it from America. They are something like
$140 on ebay new (10 disc). A bit of a bargain compared to our prices
even with shipping and possible tax/vat.
The cdx-757MX is the 10 disc. Shame it doesn't have optical out.
Does anybody know how to make an optical out for the 757MX changer? That
would be good.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colin (DP
Motorsport)
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
<colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
BTW Pete that is the 6 disk, didn't know Sony did a 10 disk MP3 changer
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Colin (DP
Motorsport)
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
<colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
Cheers Pete glad i went for the 4000x too.
Yea downloaded the software today, crossover points could be better.
Anyone
know anything about the Beta 3 version?
Question on the MP3 changer can you use it with a HeadUnit that does not
have MP3?
Also when using the optical cable and the bus lead do you need to run
the
RCAs for the radio?
BTW Pete I can get you the changer at a good price new 200 including
delivery.
Colin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Pete
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Pete" <dabrow@orange.net>
Colin,
No longer selling them anymore, I just need a changer either the XES-C1
or the cdx-848x and the 10 disc mp3 changer as well.
Only wish was that the xdp-4000x had some better x-over points, it could
be much better in that respect.
Good to hear you went for the 4000x, good choice over the 210.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colin (DP
Motorsport)
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
<colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
Pete,
See how your selling your CDX-C90 and your 4000x well i have just bought
a
4000x. Are you selling your DAB unit and changer as well? IF so i would
be
interested.
Colin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Pete
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Pete" <dabrow@orange.net>
ToR,
I have the dab attached to the XDP-4000x as a changer. It is hooked up
optically via the toslink. The 4000x is used in conjunction to a c90r.
The dab allows you to plug a changer into it and has a digital input for
pass through to the xdp-4000x. So good news if you are using a changer
with optical output.
I have no real problems with it. It should be noted that it was designed
before dab was broadcast and is a 1st generation unit. Nothing really to
read into this as it is very good quality sound. Only problem I have is
I dont have the antenna on the outside of the car yet so my reception
is as good as useless.
When the antenna is on the roof it works really well and I have no
problems.
The text service for what you are currently listening too are supported
apparently but I have yet to get that information displayed as I believe
it should do.
I am located in England. Service is good in most areas.
There is a wide range of channels in my area, local and national, better
than I expected. Many stations that were broadcast in MW or even LW are
now broadcast in stereo that is nice.
I am happy with it but I bought it second hand and did not have to pay
the 480 (at best UK Price) so I'm happy. They are not very easy to find
second hand - I was lucky.
The bands I believe are ample as far as I know.
Basically, its an old high quality piece, that may lack in features
(supported wise and even ease of use). Sonically it is excellent and is
(I think) the only one available with digital out which makes it perfect
for the 4000x. It was designed to be used with the XES-Z50 system too,
so that speaks volumes!
Hope that helps,
Pete
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
Hi there,
I use a CDX-T70MX on my set, and basically when it
reads an MP3 CD, it plays the track one by one...no
directory selection or anything like that on my CDX-C910,
which is pre CD-Text...no text either of what track is
playing, but that's due to the fact that my deck
doesn't support the text. (Yeah, it's a pain to get to
track 120...)
With the CDX-C90, you will have track selection, not
sure about the directory selection though. ID3 tracks
are not displayed.
Hope this helps,
Daniel
>
> From: "ToR" <calculathor@hotmail.com>
> Date: 2003/03/27 Thu PM 03:43:54 EST
> To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
>
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "ToR" <calculathor@hotmail.com>
>
> I bought a new CDX-757mx from eBay for $138.99
> It's a 10 disk MP3 changer
> No digital out.
>
> Crutchfield says : This unit will play pre-recorded CDs and finalized
> CD-R and CD-RW discs. It will also playback CD-R and CD-RW discs encoded
> with MP3 files, and is CD Text and ID3 tag capable.
>
> Here's the link for detailed info at crutchfield
>
> http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/S-YutpkDl2WjM/ProdView.asp?a=&s=0&cc01&g=600&id=detailed_info&i=158CDX757M
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
> <colin@dp-
> > motorsport.co.uk>
> >
> > BTW Pete that is the 6 disk, didn't know Sony did a 10 disk MP3
> changer
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Colin
> (DP
> > Motorsport)
> > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
> >
> >
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
> > <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
> >
> > Cheers Pete glad i went for the 4000x too.
> >
> > Yea downloaded the software today, crossover points could be better.
> > Anyone
> > know anything about the Beta 3 version?
> >
> > Question on the MP3 changer can you use it with a HeadUnit that does
> not
> > have MP3?
> >
> > Also when using the optical cable and the bus lead do you need to run
> the
> > RCAs for the radio?
> >
> > BTW Pete I can get you the changer at a good price new 200 including
> > delivery.
> >
> > Colin
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Pete
> > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
> >
> >
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Pete" <dabrow@orange.net>
> >
> > Colin,
> >
> > No longer selling them anymore, I just need a changer either the
> XES-C1
> > or the cdx-848x and the 10 disc mp3 changer as well.
> >
> > Only wish was that the xdp-4000x had some better x-over points, it
> could
> > be much better in that respect.
> >
> > Good to hear you went for the 4000x, good choice over the 210.
> >
> > Pete
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colin
> (DP
> > Motorsport)
> > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
> >
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
> > <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
> >
> > Pete,
> >
> > See how your selling your CDX-C90 and your 4000x well i have just
> bought
> > a
> > 4000x. Are you selling your DAB unit and changer as well? IF so i
> would
> > be
> > interested.
> >
> > Colin
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Pete
> > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
> >
> >
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Pete" <dabrow@orange.net>
> >
> > ToR,
> >
> > I have the dab attached to the XDP-4000x as a changer. It is hooked up
> > optically via the toslink. The 4000x is used in conjunction to a c90r.
> >
> > The dab allows you to plug a changer into it and has a digital input
> for
> > pass through to the xdp-4000x. So good news if you are using a changer
> > with optical output.
> >
> > I have no real problems with it. It should be noted that it was
> designed
> > before dab was broadcast and is a 1st generation unit. Nothing really
> to
> > read into this as it is very good quality sound. Only problem I have
> is
> > I dont have the antenna on the outside of the car yet so my reception
> > is as good as useless.
> >
> > When the antenna is on the roof it works really well and I have no
> > problems.
> >
> > The text service for what you are currently listening too are
> supported
> > apparently but I have yet to get that information displayed as I
> believe
> > it should do.
> >
> > I am located in England. Service is good in most areas.
> >
> > There is a wide range of channels in my area, local and national,
> better
> > than I expected. Many stations that were broadcast in MW or even LW
> are
> > now broadcast in stereo that is nice.
> >
> > I am happy with it but I bought it second hand and did not have to pay
> > the 480 (at best UK Price) so I'm happy. They are not very easy to
> find
> > second hand - I was lucky.
> >
> > The bands I believe are ample as far as I know.
> >
> > Basically, its an old high quality piece, that may lack in features
> > (supported wise and even ease of use). Sonically it is excellent and
> is
> > (I think) the only one available with digital out which makes it
> perfect
> > for the 4000x. It was designed to be used with the XES-Z50 system too,
> > so that speaks volumes!
> >
> > Hope that helps,
> >
> > Pete
> >
> >
>
>
>
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
Yea if the CDX-757MX had an optical output i'd deffo buy it. However i don't
like the big xplod sticker all over it but i'm sure i could get that off.
Still might buy it, don't think a 10 disk MP3 in the UK.
Does anyone know part numbers for changers that have an optical output and
play CDRs
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Pete
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Pete" <dabrow@orange.net>
Colin,
Yeah you would be best getting it from America. They are something like
$140 on ebay new (10 disc). A bit of a bargain compared to our prices
even with shipping and possible tax/vat.
The cdx-757MX is the 10 disc. Shame it doesn't have optical out.
Does anybody know how to make an optical out for the 757MX changer? That
would be good.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colin (DP
Motorsport)
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
<colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
BTW Pete that is the 6 disk, didn't know Sony did a 10 disk MP3 changer
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Colin (DP
Motorsport)
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
<colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
Cheers Pete glad i went for the 4000x too.
Yea downloaded the software today, crossover points could be better.
Anyone
know anything about the Beta 3 version?
Question on the MP3 changer can you use it with a HeadUnit that does not
have MP3?
Also when using the optical cable and the bus lead do you need to run
the
RCAs for the radio?
BTW Pete I can get you the changer at a good price new 200 including
delivery.
Colin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Pete
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Pete" <dabrow@orange.net>
Colin,
No longer selling them anymore, I just need a changer either the XES-C1
or the cdx-848x and the 10 disc mp3 changer as well.
Only wish was that the xdp-4000x had some better x-over points, it could
be much better in that respect.
Good to hear you went for the 4000x, good choice over the 210.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colin (DP
Motorsport)
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
<colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
Pete,
See how your selling your CDX-C90 and your 4000x well i have just bought
a
4000x. Are you selling your DAB unit and changer as well? IF so i would
be
interested.
Colin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Pete
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Pete" <dabrow@orange.net>
ToR,
I have the dab attached to the XDP-4000x as a changer. It is hooked up
optically via the toslink. The 4000x is used in conjunction to a c90r.
The dab allows you to plug a changer into it and has a digital input for
pass through to the xdp-4000x. So good news if you are using a changer
with optical output.
I have no real problems with it. It should be noted that it was designed
before dab was broadcast and is a 1st generation unit. Nothing really to
read into this as it is very good quality sound. Only problem I have is
I dont have the antenna on the outside of the car yet so my reception
is as good as useless.
When the antenna is on the roof it works really well and I have no
problems.
The text service for what you are currently listening too are supported
apparently but I have yet to get that information displayed as I believe
it should do.
I am located in England. Service is good in most areas.
There is a wide range of channels in my area, local and national, better
than I expected. Many stations that were broadcast in MW or even LW are
now broadcast in stereo that is nice.
I am happy with it but I bought it second hand and did not have to pay
the 480 (at best UK Price) so I'm happy. They are not very easy to find
second hand - I was lucky.
The bands I believe are ample as far as I know.
Basically, its an old high quality piece, that may lack in features
(supported wise and even ease of use). Sonically it is excellent and is
(I think) the only one available with digital out which makes it perfect
for the 4000x. It was designed to be used with the XES-Z50 system too,
so that speaks volumes!
Hope that helps,
Pete
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Yippy234@aol.com
I have a cdx-838, the red one and I'm always ripping MP3 to the CD format and
it plays fine. I am looking to do the same, modifying the CDX-757MX so I can
carry a bigger list. I have to order the service manual before I go any
further.
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
the CDX-838 plays MP3s? DOes it have an optical output?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Yippy234@aol.com
Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Yippy234@aol.com
I have a cdx-838, the red one and I'm always ripping MP3 to the CD format
and
it plays fine. I am looking to do the same, modifying the CDX-757MX so I can
carry a bigger list. I have to order the service manual before I go any
further.
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Yippy234@aol.com
Let me rephrase, I convert MP3s back into the CD format using EZ CD creator.
It does play CDRs without a problem. If you have pops and skips from the
source these will carry over.
I've had this changer for 2 years and it hardly ever gives me any problems.
Because of the buffer, it has skipped only a handful of times. I drive a
lowered car through bumpy roads all the time too. I have it hooked up
optically to my first generation XES system.
If I can get a CDX-757MX modified with an optical out so that it can play
MP3s, I'm going to swap this changer out.
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
Anyone know of a MiniDisk changer that has an optical output and LP feature?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Yippy234@aol.com
Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Yippy234@aol.com
I have a cdx-838, the red one and I'm always ripping MP3 to the CD format
and
it plays fine. I am looking to do the same, modifying the CDX-757MX so I can
carry a bigger list. I have to order the service manual before I go any
further.
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| Subject: | frequency response tests for C90 (in croatian?) |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "ToR" <calculathor@hotmail.com>
I found this page looking around
It has frequency response test results for cdx-c90
Written in kroatian but still could be understood by looking at the
graphs
http://caodo.co.kr/board/community/review/review_list_detail_03.asp
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Doug Dobson" <dougdobson@chartermi.net>
The only minidisc changer I know of with a toslink out was the MDX-65 from
1999. Don't remember much about it otherwise.
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| Subject: | Re: XT-100DAB question |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Bobby" <mrblackc@msn.com>
I highly doubt that there is a way to modify any of the changers currenly
out there that play mp3's to give a digital output, or vice versa. I just
doesn't seem like something that is easily do-able, unless you're a Sony
engineer that is, and they decided that it wasn't a necessity. I guess I
find myself stuck on this one question. Most of you, or at least alot of
you are running car stereos using a c90 or c910, and a 4000x. Have any of
you actually sat back and listened to the overall quality of sound
reproduction of your top quality units while listening to a finely recorded
CD? Then, after having heard your top quality system, how does it sound or
feel to go and listen to someone elses Pioneer or Kenwood, or whatever they
decide to use? It's not fun, nor enjoyable. At least I don't think so.
What puzzles me is then, why, having chosen the route of purchasing truly
high quality stereo equipment, would you want to install and listen to mp3
audio with this equipment? I honestly have a hard time even burning a cd
with an mp3 recorded onto it, if I plan on listening to it in my car.
Honestly, if you haven't had the chance, take the time to listen to an
actual mp3 burned onto a cd as cd audio (it will sound exactly the same as
it would had it been played in an mp3 changer, if not a little better since
you would be using optical. As much as most people seem to like the idea of
mp3's because of $ and availability, they really don't seem to realize what
they're listening to. It's crap! If you really listen to the music, you
can hear how layered it is. The highs are very fake, they're there, but
they have no depth. They tend to sound very 'tin'ny and lifeless, and have
no direction at all. They seem to mess up the rest of the directional value
of the mids since the stereo effect is so compressed. I guess I could go on
and on about all the things I hate about listening to mp3's on a nice
system, but really, I don't think the issue is big enough to toil over. If
you want to listen to mp3's in your car, buy an mp3 changer, who cares
whether it's optically connected or not, you're not listening to clean sound
anyways.
Bobby
----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
<colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
>
> the CDX-838 plays MP3s? DOes it have an optical output?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> Yippy234@aol.com
> To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.comed
> Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
>
>
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Yippy234@aol.com
>
> I have a cdx-838, the red one and I'm always ripping MP3 to the CD format
> and
> it plays fine. I am looking to do the same, modifying the CDX-757MX so I
can
> carry a bigger list. I have to order the service manual before I go any
> further.
>
>
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| Subject: | XT-100DAB question |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Pete" <dabrow@orange.net>
>
>Colin,
>The cdx-757MX is the 10 disc. Shame it doesn't have optical out.
>
>Does anybody know how to make an optical out for the 757MX changer? That
>would be good.
>
>Pete
The optical out would require a couple small circuit boards from the
CDX-828/838/848X changer but actually connecting that part might not be that
hard. What would be harder to do is to get that switch in there that
switches the unit from analog to digital for the XDP to know (and for the
optical to turn on).
However though the CDX-757MX looks the same as the other 10-disc changers,
the chipset might be different; and, depending on how MP3s are processed it
might not be possible to get at a digital signal in that changer :(
Roland M.
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
><colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
>
>Yea if the CDX-757MX had an optical output i'd deffo buy it. However i
>don't
>like the big xplod sticker all over it but i'm sure i could get that off.
>
>Still might buy it, don't think a 10 disk MP3 in the UK.
>
>Does anyone know part numbers for changers that have an optical output and
>play CDRs
>
Well EVERY CD player should play CD-Rs, technically speaking. Even a Sony
CDP-200 (I think that was the model number) a friend once had would play CDs
and that was the second home CD player deck that Sony ever produced so it
was circa 1984 or something! It was picky with some CD-Rs though...
However I've heard the CDX-91 is picky with some CD-Rs and if it is older it
might not be able to play them well from a weakened laser (which would still
likely read reguar CDs no doubt).
Anyhow, the later optical out changers CDX-805, CDX-828, CDX-838 and
CDX-848X should all play CD-Rs without problems. The won't play CD-RW
though.
Roland M.
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| Subject: | Re: XT-100DAB question |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Doug Dobson" <dougdobson@chartermi.net>
You really don't need the switch there if you convert it for yourself. Why
would you switch to analog?
Not too sure of current designs, but Sony changers and decks used to be
quite easy and inexpensive to convert to optical out.
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
><colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
>
>Anyone know of a MiniDisk changer that has an optical output and LP
>feature?
>
No there isn't one, AFAIK but the MDX-66XLP *should* be modifiable... You
will likely need some parts from and MDX-65 and the service manual for both.
I think the internals should be similar enough to implement the switch and
optical emitter and boards from the 65 in the 66XLP.
I can't be 100% sure so it would be a good idea to get both service manuals
and take a look before attempting it.
Also I have no idea how much the parts would cost from the 65.
Roland M.
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| Subject: | Re: XT-100DAB question |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Daniel Botelho <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
Hi bobby,
Here's all that I can come up with in regards to MP3 quality.
Sure, there are some really bad MP3 recordings out there. This is a given.
However, what I've been doing for the last little while is making my own MP3
recordings, digitally extracting the tracks from my original CD's, and
encoding
them using the LAME encoder @ 256Kbit in CBR (The Sony CD MP3 changer
doesn't like VBR much.... )
You know what? You will not tell the difference. I've tried this over
and over
again, and to be honest, the MP3 changers do a damn good job reproducing
audio thru the analog outputs.
Of course, we're also not talking about an ideal enviroment. I know
that in my car,
the outside noises interfere with the music anyway. (To really hear the
system, you
have to have the car shut off... ;-)
Seriously, I've heard really *bad* souinding MP3's, and to be honest, if
you want to
hear the difference, you need to make your own.
I have a terrific link at work that had 150 or so audiophiles listen to
different MP3's
and compared them in a double-blind test with the originals, using
headphones,
and ultra-high-end equipment.
In the end, there were about 6 people that could tell the difference
using 192K VBR...
Don't knock it until you tried it! ;-)
Daniel
Bobby wrote:
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Bobby" <mrblackc@msn.com>
>
>I highly doubt that there is a way to modify any of the changers currenly
>out there that play mp3's to give a digital output, or vice versa. I just
>doesn't seem like something that is easily do-able, unless you're a Sony
>engineer that is, and they decided that it wasn't a necessity. I guess I
>find myself stuck on this one question. Most of you, or at least alot of
>you are running car stereos using a c90 or c910, and a 4000x. Have any of
>you actually sat back and listened to the overall quality of sound
>reproduction of your top quality units while listening to a finely recorded
>CD? Then, after having heard your top quality system, how does it sound or
>feel to go and listen to someone elses Pioneer or Kenwood, or whatever they
>decide to use? It's not fun, nor enjoyable. At least I don't think so.
>What puzzles me is then, why, having chosen the route of purchasing truly
>high quality stereo equipment, would you want to install and listen to mp3
>audio with this equipment? I honestly have a hard time even burning a cd
>with an mp3 recorded onto it, if I plan on listening to it in my car.
>Honestly, if you haven't had the chance, take the time to listen to an
>actual mp3 burned onto a cd as cd audio (it will sound exactly the same as
>it would had it been played in an mp3 changer, if not a little better since
>you would be using optical. As much as most people seem to like the idea of
>mp3's because of $ and availability, they really don't seem to realize what
>they're listening to. It's crap! If you really listen to the music, you
>can hear how layered it is. The highs are very fake, they're there, but
>they have no depth. They tend to sound very 'tin'ny and lifeless, and have
>no direction at all. They seem to mess up the rest of the directional value
>of the mids since the stereo effect is so compressed. I guess I could go on
>and on about all the things I hate about listening to mp3's on a nice
>system, but really, I don't think the issue is big enough to toil over. If
>you want to listen to mp3's in your car, buy an mp3 changer, who cares
>whether it's optically connected or not, you're not listening to clean sound
>anyways.
>
>Bobby
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
>To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
>
>
>
>
>>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
>>
>>
><colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
>
>
>>the CDX-838 plays MP3s? DOes it have an optical output?
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
>>Yippy234@aol.com
>>To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.comed
>>Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
>>
>>
>>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Yippy234@aol.com
>>
>>I have a cdx-838, the red one and I'm always ripping MP3 to the CD format
>>and
>>it plays fine. I am looking to do the same, modifying the CDX-757MX so I
>>
>>
>can
>
>
>>carry a bigger list. I have to order the service manual before I go any
>>further.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: XT-100DAB question |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Doug Dobson"
><dougdobson@chartermi.net>
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>You really don't need the switch there if you convert it for yourself. Why
>would you switch to analog?
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>Not too sure of current designs, but Sony changers and decks used to be
>quite easy and inexpensive to convert to optical out.
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You need the switch because the position of the switch is how the XDP unit
determines whether to use the optical in or the analog in. Whatever mode
the HU or changer tells the XDP it is in (via UniLink), depending on the
switch setting is the input the XDP uses.
A changer or HU that doesn't have an optical out would always "tell" the XDP
that it is in analog mode and therefore the XDP unit would only look for a
signal on the analog inputs.
Roland M.
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| Subject: | XT-100DAB question |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Mark Laird" <mark_laird@hotmail.com>
If you encode mp3s at at least 192 kbps, you can't hear the difference. The
human ear isn't sensitive enough.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bobby
Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Bobby" <mrblackc@msn.com>
I highly doubt that there is a way to modify any of the changers currenly
out there that play mp3's to give a digital output, or vice versa. I just
doesn't seem like something that is easily do-able, unless you're a Sony
engineer that is, and they decided that it wasn't a necessity. I guess I
find myself stuck on this one question. Most of you, or at least alot of
you are running car stereos using a c90 or c910, and a 4000x. Have any of
you actually sat back and listened to the overall quality of sound
reproduction of your top quality units while listening to a finely recorded
CD? Then, after having heard your top quality system, how does it sound or
feel to go and listen to someone elses Pioneer or Kenwood, or whatever they
decide to use? It's not fun, nor enjoyable. At least I don't think so.
What puzzles me is then, why, having chosen the route of purchasing truly
high quality stereo equipment, would you want to install and listen to mp3
audio with this equipment? I honestly have a hard time even burning a cd
with an mp3 recorded onto it, if I plan on listening to it in my car.
Honestly, if you haven't had the chance, take the time to listen to an
actual mp3 burned onto a cd as cd audio (it will sound exactly the same as
it would had it been played in an mp3 changer, if not a little better since
you would be using optical. As much as most people seem to like the idea of
mp3's because of $ and availability, they really don't seem to realize what
they're listening to. It's crap! If you really listen to the music, you
can hear how layered it is. The highs are very fake, they're there, but
they have no depth. They tend to sound very 'tin'ny and lifeless, and have
no direction at all. They seem to mess up the rest of the directional value
of the mids since the stereo effect is so compressed. I guess I could go on
and on about all the things I hate about listening to mp3's on a nice
system, but really, I don't think the issue is big enough to toil over. If
you want to listen to mp3's in your car, buy an mp3 changer, who cares
whether it's optically connected or not, you're not listening to clean sound
anyways.
Bobby
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