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1. 01:29 AM - Re: XT-100DAB question (ToR)
2. 01:49 AM - Re: XT-100DAB question (Colin (DP Motorsport))
3. 03:08 AM - Re: XT-100DAB question (NOTGSXR@aol.com)
4. 03:09 AM - Re: XT-100DAB question (NOTGSXR@aol.com)
5. 04:10 AM - Re: XT-100DAB question (Daniel Botelho)
6. 04:25 AM - Re: XT-100DAB question (Pete)
7. 09:20 AM - Re: XT-100DAB question (NOTGSXR@aol.com)
8. 10:50 AM - Re: Re: XT-100DAB question ()
9. 11:20 AM - production, encoding and reproduction quality, pcm-CD vs mp3-CD vs atrac3-MD (ToR)
10. 09:33 PM - Re: XT-100DAB question (Roland M)
11. 09:36 PM - Re: XT-100DAB question (Roland M)
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "ToR" <calculathor@hotmail.com>
Technically speaking I would agree with you, but in practical terms I
guess only sensitive quality testing equipment could tell the
difference.
Also I would like be able to listen to crap mp3's too with a setup that
can produce high quality sound, with optical out in additional to
listening to high quality recorded cd's.
Or you would have to buy two changers
One with optical out with high quality reproduction
And another one for listening to ripped/downloaded mp3's etc.
I think one changer should be able to do all
But this is what sony wants
They remove external dsp's and add crappy hsx or whatever dsp they have
now
They remove optical out and XA-40D and give you analog only
They dont want people to get used to high quality sound
They want to be able to sell more and cheaper stuff
The same idea applies to many other house hold and other equipment in
our lives
Like tv's washing machines or cars.
It's very unlikely A 50 year old washing machine would breakdown easily
But now they have cooler looking *things* with better support&service so
they could make money through not only selling but afterwards also.
I think these are side effects of a consumer market
The market depends on people to consume
Most people in this list in one aspect actually a threat to the consumer
market, because we are old purists, insisting on how things should be.
We are damned with the knowledge of better quality audio.
It reminds me how a lot of people reacted to CD's when they first came
out, everyone was comparing them to LP's, people were arguing that with
LP's you can get a more realistic sound and people didn't want CD's to
take over LP's. which is true actually, when you're using high-end
equipment that is, but now, I'm pretty sure it would be quite hard to
convince anyone to switch to LP's because they have better quality.
People would say they hear clicks and they can not take it with them :)
So It's becoming less about quality and more about functionality.
Like being able to play downloaded mp3's
It would have been very nice if sony have thought of our kind and
engineered their equipment at least in a modifiable fashion, so that
purist or quality savvy people like us could at least modify/add parts
to get better quality.
But it would be against their philosophy because they want to get rid of
people like us :) they want people quality-dumb...
i also dont think it's coincidence that cdx-c90 has bad display or its
rotary volume thing gets loose after a while or mdx-400 has bad laser.
They dont want to give a complete-satisfaction-solution when they
could.
Remember technology is not about satisfying people's needs but to create
newer needs. Anyways, I bought the 10 mp3 changer with analog out and I
might buy and additional changer with optical out, maybe the
dvx100+unilink ctrl. (I know it's SNR is not that good too :) )
ToR.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-
> list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bobby
> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:47 PM
> To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
>
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Bobby" <mrblackc@msn.com>
>
> I highly doubt that there is a way to modify any of the changers
currenly
> out there that play mp3's to give a digital output, or vice versa. I
just
> doesn't seem like something that is easily do-able, unless you're a
Sony
> engineer that is, and they decided that it wasn't a necessity. I
guess I
> find myself stuck on this one question. Most of you, or at least alot
of
> you are running car stereos using a c90 or c910, and a 4000x. Have
any of
> you actually sat back and listened to the overall quality of sound
> reproduction of your top quality units while listening to a finely
> recorded
> CD? Then, after having heard your top quality system, how does it
sound
> or
> feel to go and listen to someone elses Pioneer or Kenwood, or whatever
> they
> decide to use? It's not fun, nor enjoyable. At least I don't think
so.
> What puzzles me is then, why, having chosen the route of purchasing
truly
> high quality stereo equipment, would you want to install and listen to
mp3
> audio with this equipment? I honestly have a hard time even burning a
cd
> with an mp3 recorded onto it, if I plan on listening to it in my car.
> Honestly, if you haven't had the chance, take the time to listen to an
> actual mp3 burned onto a cd as cd audio (it will sound exactly the
same as
> it would had it been played in an mp3 changer, if not a little better
> since
> you would be using optical. As much as most people seem to like the
idea
> of
> mp3's because of $ and availability, they really don't seem to realize
> what
> they're listening to. It's crap! If you really listen to the music,
you
> can hear how layered it is. The highs are very fake, they're there,
but
> they have no depth. They tend to sound very 'tin'ny and lifeless, and
have
> no direction at all. They seem to mess up the rest of the directional
> value
> of the mids since the stereo effect is so compressed. I guess I could
go
> on
> and on about all the things I hate about listening to mp3's on a nice
> system, but really, I don't think the issue is big enough to toil
over.
> If
> you want to listen to mp3's in your car, buy an mp3 changer, who cares
> whether it's optically connected or not, you're not listening to clean
> sound
> anyways.
>
> Bobby
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
> To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
>
>
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
> <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
> >
> > the CDX-838 plays MP3s? DOes it have an optical output?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> > Yippy234@aol.com
> > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.comed
> > Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
> >
> >
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Yippy234@aol.com
> >
> > I have a cdx-838, the red one and I'm always ripping MP3 to the CD
> format
> > and
> > it plays fine. I am looking to do the same, modifying the CDX-757MX
so I
> can
> > carry a bigger list. I have to order the service manual before I go
any
> > further.
> >
> >
>
>
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
Agreed MP3s don't sound as good, but i have quite a lot of unrealised tracks
in MP3 that i have no way of getting the originals. Also i would quite like
to have the majority of my CDs in MP3 format so easy of use during long
journeys and have the option to put originals in the changer too with good
quality from my crystal DACs.
I'm now thinking of getting an MDLP changer rather than using MP3s as 99% of
MD stuff has optical connections but then the first MDLP changers does not
have this.
Colin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of ToR
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "ToR" <calculathor@hotmail.com>
Technically speaking I would agree with you, but in practical terms I
guess only sensitive quality testing equipment could tell the
difference.
Also I would like be able to listen to crap mp3's too with a setup that
can produce high quality sound, with optical out in additional to
listening to high quality recorded cd's.
Or you would have to buy two changers
One with optical out with high quality reproduction
And another one for listening to ripped/downloaded mp3's etc.
I think one changer should be able to do all
But this is what sony wants
They remove external dsp's and add crappy hsx or whatever dsp they have
now
They remove optical out and XA-40D and give you analog only
They dont want people to get used to high quality sound
They want to be able to sell more and cheaper stuff
The same idea applies to many other house hold and other equipment in
our lives
Like tv's washing machines or cars.
It's very unlikely A 50 year old washing machine would breakdown easily
But now they have cooler looking *things* with better support&service so
they could make money through not only selling but afterwards also.
I think these are side effects of a consumer market
The market depends on people to consume
Most people in this list in one aspect actually a threat to the consumer
market, because we are old purists, insisting on how things should be.
We are damned with the knowledge of better quality audio.
It reminds me how a lot of people reacted to CD's when they first came
out, everyone was comparing them to LP's, people were arguing that with
LP's you can get a more realistic sound and people didn't want CD's to
take over LP's. which is true actually, when you're using high-end
equipment that is, but now, I'm pretty sure it would be quite hard to
convince anyone to switch to LP's because they have better quality.
People would say they hear clicks and they can not take it with them :)
So It's becoming less about quality and more about functionality.
Like being able to play downloaded mp3's
It would have been very nice if sony have thought of our kind and
engineered their equipment at least in a modifiable fashion, so that
purist or quality savvy people like us could at least modify/add parts
to get better quality.
But it would be against their philosophy because they want to get rid of
people like us :) they want people quality-dumb...
i also dont think it's coincidence that cdx-c90 has bad display or its
rotary volume thing gets loose after a while or mdx-400 has bad laser.
They dont want to give a complete-satisfaction-solution when they
could.
Remember technology is not about satisfying people's needs but to create
newer needs. Anyways, I bought the 10 mp3 changer with analog out and I
might buy and additional changer with optical out, maybe the
dvx100+unilink ctrl. (I know it's SNR is not that good too :) )
ToR.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-
> list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bobby
> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:47 PM
> To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
>
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Bobby" <mrblackc@msn.com>
>
> I highly doubt that there is a way to modify any of the changers
currenly
> out there that play mp3's to give a digital output, or vice versa. I
just
> doesn't seem like something that is easily do-able, unless you're a
Sony
> engineer that is, and they decided that it wasn't a necessity. I
guess I
> find myself stuck on this one question. Most of you, or at least alot
of
> you are running car stereos using a c90 or c910, and a 4000x. Have
any of
> you actually sat back and listened to the overall quality of sound
> reproduction of your top quality units while listening to a finely
> recorded
> CD? Then, after having heard your top quality system, how does it
sound
> or
> feel to go and listen to someone elses Pioneer or Kenwood, or whatever
> they
> decide to use? It's not fun, nor enjoyable. At least I don't think
so.
> What puzzles me is then, why, having chosen the route of purchasing
truly
> high quality stereo equipment, would you want to install and listen to
mp3
> audio with this equipment? I honestly have a hard time even burning a
cd
> with an mp3 recorded onto it, if I plan on listening to it in my car.
> Honestly, if you haven't had the chance, take the time to listen to an
> actual mp3 burned onto a cd as cd audio (it will sound exactly the
same as
> it would had it been played in an mp3 changer, if not a little better
> since
> you would be using optical. As much as most people seem to like the
idea
> of
> mp3's because of $ and availability, they really don't seem to realize
> what
> they're listening to. It's crap! If you really listen to the music,
you
> can hear how layered it is. The highs are very fake, they're there,
but
> they have no depth. They tend to sound very 'tin'ny and lifeless, and
have
> no direction at all. They seem to mess up the rest of the directional
> value
> of the mids since the stereo effect is so compressed. I guess I could
go
> on
> and on about all the things I hate about listening to mp3's on a nice
> system, but really, I don't think the issue is big enough to toil
over.
> If
> you want to listen to mp3's in your car, buy an mp3 changer, who cares
> whether it's optically connected or not, you're not listening to clean
> sound
> anyways.
>
> Bobby
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
> To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
>
>
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
> <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
> >
> > the CDX-838 plays MP3s? DOes it have an optical output?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> > Yippy234@aol.com
> > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.comed
> > Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
> >
> >
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Yippy234@aol.com
> >
> > I have a cdx-838, the red one and I'm always ripping MP3 to the CD
> format
> > and
> > it plays fine. I am looking to do the same, modifying the CDX-757MX
so I
> can
> > carry a bigger list. I have to order the service manual before I go
any
> > further.
> >
> >
>
>
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: NOTGSXR@aol.com
In a message dated 3/27/03 8:48:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, mrblackc@msn.com
writes:
> I highly doubt that there is a way to modify any of the changers currenly
> out there that play mp3's to give a digital output, or vice versa. I just
> doesn't seem like something that is easily do-able, unless you're a Sony
> engineer that is, and they decided that it wasn't a necessity. I guess I
> find myself stuck on this one question. Most of you, or at least alot of
> you are running car stereos using a c90 or c910, and a 4000x. Have any of
> you actually sat back and listened to the overall quality of sound
> reproduction of your top quality units while listening to a finely recorded
> CD? Then, after having heard your top quality system, how does it sound or
> feel to go and listen to someone elses Pioneer or Kenwood, or whatever they
> decide to use? It's not fun, nor enjoyable. At least I don't think so.
> What puzzles me is then, why, having chosen the route of purchasing truly
> high quality stereo equipment, would you want to install and listen to mp3
> audio with this equipment? I honestly have a hard time even burning a cd
> with an mp3 recorded onto it, if I plan on listening to it in my car.
> Honestly, if you haven't had the chance, take the time to listen to an
> actual mp3 burned onto a cd as cd audio (it will sound exactly the same as
> it would had it been played in an mp3 changer, if not a little better since
> you would be using optical. As much as most people seem to like the idea
> of
> mp3's because of $ and availability, they really don't seem to realize what
> they're listening to. It's crap! If you really listen to the music, you
> can hear how layered it is. The highs are very fake, they're there, but
> they have no depth. They tend to sound very 'tin'ny and lifeless, and have
> no direction at all. They seem to mess up the rest of the directional
> value
> of the mids since the stereo effect is so compressed. I guess I could go
> on
> and on about all the things I hate about listening to mp3's on a nice
> system, but really, I don't think the issue is big enough to toil over. If
> you want to listen to mp3's in your car, buy an mp3 changer, who cares
> whether it's optically connected or not, you're not listening to clean
> sound
> anyways.
>
> Bobby
I wholeheartedly agree............ listening to an mp3 in my car with the
C910 and XDP4k turned my stomach the first time i ever listened to it.... it
was ripped at 320 as well.......... btw..... this also was the last time an
mp3 was played in my car..... perhaps i am just a little more critical than
most people..... However, accurate speakers (Focal) and high quality audio
components like the C910 and XDP-4000X i can't for the life of me think they
were meant for mp3's.... They reproduce every sound..... (ok, probably not
every sound, but you get my point) and your amplifier amplifies this signal
its receiving..... why would we ever want to send a less than accurate signal
with other "noise" introduced (or taken away) through these components..... i
will never know. I think 8 Tracks sounded better than mp3's...... thats
just my .02 cents.....
Dan
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: NOTGSXR@aol.com
In a message dated 3/27/03 11:24:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mdx400@hotmail.com writes:
> However I've heard the CDX-91 is picky with some CD-Rs and if it is older it
>
> might not be able to play them well from a weakened laser (which would
> still
> likely read reguar CDs no doubt).
I havn't yet had a problem with my CDX-91 and CDR's..... I usually use Sony
CDR's not that that matters... perahaps i am just lucky??
Dan
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Daniel Botelho <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
Dan,
I have to ask: What software are you using for making MP3's? If you
downloaded a 320k MP3,
and expected it to sound good, well depending on what software was used
to create the MP3,
it can still sound like shit.
Xing MP3 creating software is notorious for making bad sounding MP3's.
You need to use a high
quality codec, and a decent quality CD ripper to get CD-Quality audio
from MP3's. I could send
you some that I've made, and you would not tell the difference. If you
used Exact audio copy ver .91
and the LAME codec set for 256K, you'd be set to go.
Which MP3 changer are you using?
Daniel
>
>I wholeheartedly agree............ listening to an mp3 in my car with the
>C910 and XDP4k turned my stomach the first time i ever listened to it.... it
>was ripped at 320 as well.......... btw..... this also was the last time an
>mp3 was played in my car..... perhaps i am just a little more critical than
>most people..... However, accurate speakers (Focal) and high quality audio
>components like the C910 and XDP-4000X i can't for the life of me think they
>were meant for mp3's.... They reproduce every sound..... (ok, probably not
>every sound, but you get my point) and your amplifier amplifies this signal
>its receiving..... why would we ever want to send a less than accurate signal
>with other "noise" introduced (or taken away) through these components..... i
>will never know. I think 8 Tracks sounded better than mp3's...... thats
>just my .02 cents.....
>
>Dan
>
>
>
>
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Pete" <dabrow@orange.net>
The BEST way to achieve perfect MP3's is to use this guide (see below).
The results are very good. This way uses variable bitrate lame encoder
(In conjunction with the Sony mp3 changers - I do not know how well it
will work). You can set up a constant bitrate mode if you need to.
This method though provides the best audio extraction giving you the
opportunity to maximise the mp3's quality.
I have been using EAC for a while and it is slow at times but it is the
best. Seeing as we have some of the best equipment, it makes sense to
get the best rip possible.
Check it out here, a good guide...
http://www.chrismyden.com/nuke/modules.php?op=modload&name=Elite_DAE&fil
e=painless
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
Botelho
Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Daniel Botelho
<dbotel6500@rogers.com>
Dan,
I have to ask: What software are you using for making MP3's? If you
downloaded a 320k MP3,
and expected it to sound good, well depending on what software was used
to create the MP3,
it can still sound like shit.
Xing MP3 creating software is notorious for making bad sounding MP3's.
You need to use a high
quality codec, and a decent quality CD ripper to get CD-Quality audio
from MP3's. I could send
you some that I've made, and you would not tell the difference. If you
used Exact audio copy ver .91
and the LAME codec set for 256K, you'd be set to go.
Which MP3 changer are you using?
Daniel
>
>I wholeheartedly agree............ listening to an mp3 in my car with
the
>C910 and XDP4k turned my stomach the first time i ever listened to
it.... it
>was ripped at 320 as well.......... btw..... this also was the last
time an
>mp3 was played in my car..... perhaps i am just a little more
critical than
>most people..... However, accurate speakers (Focal) and high quality
audio
>components like the C910 and XDP-4000X i can't for the life of me think
they
>were meant for mp3's.... They reproduce every sound..... (ok, probably
not
>every sound, but you get my point) and your amplifier amplifies this
signal
>its receiving..... why would we ever want to send a less than accurate
signal
>with other "noise" introduced (or taken away) through these
components..... i
>will never know. I think 8 Tracks sounded better than mp3's......
thats
>just my .02 cents.....
>
>Dan
>
>
>
>
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: NOTGSXR@aol.com
In a message dated 3/28/03 7:11:32 AM Eastern Standard Time,
dbotel6500@rogers.com writes:
> Dan,
>
> I have to ask: What software are you using for making MP3's? If you
> downloaded a 320k MP3,
> and expected it to sound good, well depending on what software was used
> to create the MP3,
> it can still sound like shit.
>
> Xing MP3 creating software is notorious for making bad sounding MP3's.
> You need to use a high
> quality codec, and a decent quality CD ripper to get CD-Quality audio
> from MP3's. I could send
> you some that I've made, and you would not tell the difference. If you
> used Exact audio copy ver .91
> and the LAME codec set for 256K, you'd be set to go.
>
> Which MP3 changer are you using?
>
> Daniel
Alrighty..... perhaps my methods are not perfect...... I actually used
MusicMatch software....... To burn the CD that is........ i downloaded the
mp3's so i have no clue what they were burned with...... The mp3's were
transfered back to CD Audio or a wav file i believe........ apparently this
is not the best way huh?????? :)
Dan
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
Ok, so there are a few things to clear up here.
1) As you mentioned, not all MP3's are created equal. I'd try and source some
decent MP3's either using newsgroups, or some other way, but musicmatch is hardly
hi-fi, being on the same level as kazaa. Most people use either Xing, musicmatch,
or nero, and those programs are not aiming for audio quality, but they
boast high speed ripping. High speed ins't quality audio
2) You can convert MP3 to .WAV audio, but for the few of us,
we have an MP3 changer that allows you to burn the .MP3 files
onto a CD without creating a .WAV file. This allows you to store 100-200 MP3 songs
on a CD, and play it in the MP3 changer...
If you do look for MP3 songs, try and get songs that are above 160k...anything
below 160k MP3 sounds like crap and underwater. The songs have no dynamics at
all...
>
>
> Alrighty..... perhaps my methods are not perfect...... I actually used
> MusicMatch software....... To burn the CD that is........ i downloaded the
> mp3's so i have no clue what they were burned with...... The mp3's were
> transfered back to CD Audio or a wav file i believe........ apparently this
> is not the best way huh?????? :)
>
> Dan
>
>
>
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| Subject: | production, encoding and reproduction quality, pcm-CD vs |
mp3-CD vs atrac3-MD
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "ToR" <calculathor@hotmail.com>
You're talking the opposite way
When you make a regular cd from mp3's, it's a waste of space. If you
have an mp3 changer that is. The question is how to create good sounding
mp3-cd's from uncompressed (regular) cd's. aka ripping.
Also additional to this subject, I've checked the atrac3 codec. It's
pretty good compared to mp3's. (which is the latest codec for MD's)
There is an atrac3 codec available for wav files. You can check it your
self on your pc, google it.
atrac3-MD gives less space then mp3-CD but maybe thats better than
pulling your hair going to 87th track on your mp3-CD.
I find MD a good alternative to mp3-CD because you can record easily
from radio etc with a push of a button at home and also take it with you
with a portable MD player. If you're not downloading a lot of mp3's from
internet, and if you're ripping from cd's and have an MD recorder at
home, MD might be a better choice.
!!To get best audio quality use PCM encoded CD's produced by your
trusted production house and listen with CDX-848x (102dB SNR) and
connect optical spdif to XDP-4000x :)
ToR
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-
> list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of NOTGSXR@aol.com
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 12:19 PM
> To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: XT-100DAB question
>
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: NOTGSXR@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 3/28/03 7:11:32 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> dbotel6500@rogers.com writes:
>
> > Dan,
> >
> > I have to ask: What software are you using for making MP3's? If
you
> > downloaded a 320k MP3,
> > and expected it to sound good, well depending on what software was
used
> > to create the MP3,
> > it can still sound like shit.
> >
> > Xing MP3 creating software is notorious for making bad sounding
MP3's.
> > You need to use a high
> > quality codec, and a decent quality CD ripper to get CD-Quality
audio
> > from MP3's. I could send
> > you some that I've made, and you would not tell the difference. If
you
> > used Exact audio copy ver .91
> > and the LAME codec set for 256K, you'd be set to go.
> >
> > Which MP3 changer are you using?
> >
> > Daniel
>
>
> Alrighty..... perhaps my methods are not perfect...... I actually
used
> MusicMatch software....... To burn the CD that is........ i
downloaded
> the
> mp3's so i have no clue what they were burned with...... The mp3's
were
> transfered back to CD Audio or a wav file i believe........ apparently
> this
> is not the best way huh?????? :)
>
> Dan
>
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| Subject: | XT-100DAB question |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
><colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
>
>I'm now thinking of getting an MDLP changer rather than using MP3s as 99%
>of
>MD stuff has optical connections but then the first MDLP changers does not
>have this.
>
>Colin
The way you worded that, it just seems like you are either hoping or
thinking that they will release another MDLP changer with optical out? That
is EXTREMELY unlikely because of the fact that they no longer produce/sell
external DSPs like the 4000X or 210EQ. Also the MDX-65 was the only MD
changer in the lineup for several years. The only reason they made the
MDX-66XLP was for MDLP. Since they no longer sell any DSPs they also
removed the optical out circuitry from the 66XLP to save a few bucks.
The MDX-66XLP might very well be the last Sony mobile MD changer we ever see
from Sony. The design is proven (the MDX-60/61/62 and 65 were all based on
the same basic mechanism), and reliable; and since MD is relatively
unpopular as it is (particularly in North America) they will continue with
that changer for quite a while.
Your best bet is to try to mod a 66XLP for optical out.
Roland M.
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| Subject: | Re: XT-100DAB question |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: NOTGSXR@aol.com
>
>In a message dated 3/27/03 11:24:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>mdx400@hotmail.com writes:
>
> > However I've heard the CDX-91 is picky with some CD-Rs and if it is
>older it
> >
> > might not be able to play them well from a weakened laser (which would
> > still
> > likely read reguar CDs no doubt).
>
>
>I havn't yet had a problem with my CDX-91 and CDR's..... I usually use
>Sony
>CDR's not that that matters... perahaps i am just lucky??
>
>
>Dan
Nah, I doubt that it is just luck. Like I said CD-Rs should play in ANY CD
player... I did hear a few people saying that theirs gave them probs with
CD-Rs but it is probably their "unluckiness" in that their changer's pickup
doesn't do to well with CD-R (probably because of age, dirty lens, etc.).
Roland M.
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