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1. 04:02 AM - Sony P1 compatibility and Sony changer questions (Justin Baron)
2. 04:18 AM - Re: Sony P1 compatibility and Sony changer questions (Yippy234@aol.com)
3. 06:31 AM - Re: Sony P1 compatibility and Sony changer questions (Doug Dobson)
4. 05:27 PM - part # for copper... (Hyo68@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Sony P1 compatibility and Sony changer questions |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Justin Baron <justinjbaron@attbi.com>
Hi All,
Haven't posted here since mid-2001. I have some questions about a product
I just purchased - XES-P1. I know it's not an xdp4k, but you guys seem to
know some things about XES gear.
First off, does anyone know if the P1's analog output clips at full
volume? Does anyone know if the outputs of the X1 clip at full volume,
when used with the P1? I'll eventually measure this myself, but I'm curious.
I've yet to find definitive information about the usage of the P1 with the
XT-XM1 tuner. Some reports say that the P1 cannot be used to control the
XT-XM1 whatsoever. Some reports are that general functionality such as
station changing and station number display are available. I believe the
P1 has limited ability to display text such as track or cd info from any
device. Does anyone have specific experience with the P1 and XM
tuner? How does the P1 refer to the tuner when connected via
unilink/analog - "Aux"?
About changers. How does the C1 stack up against newer changers that
offered optical output? Are there any optical-out changers that cannot be
used with the P1 for any reason? I understand that I'd have only limited
text display, but are there any other caveats to consider with any
changers? Of all optical-out changers, are any of decidedly higher quality
than the others? Anyone have a list of optical-out changers from yesterday
and today?
Finally - I will eventually want to install a CD unit in the dash for easy
disc changes. Since the P1 will always be adjusted independently of
whatever CD unit I use, I don't really need a Sony CD unit. Does anyone
know if there are any high-quality dash-mounted cd transports from any
manufacturer with optical output? I'd prefer a transport only, with no
tuner. Nak makes such units but I believe they all use coaxial digital
outputs...
Thanks for any and all information!
Justin
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| Subject: | Re: Sony P1 compatibility and Sony changer questions |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Yippy234@aol.com
I have my XES-P1/X1 combo working fine with my amplifiers gains turned about
halfway (tweeters) and threequarters of the way (midbasses) turned up. I also
did some level matching using the built-in level adjustments. It plays fine
when I crank it full blast. The tuner which runs through analog has a bit of
a level difference but gets load all the same.
I had the C1 working but it was skipping too much so I set it aside. I now
have a CDX-838 and that has been working like a champ. Rarely skips even when
I bottom out and I do play lots of CDRs. One nice feature on the later
generations of buffered CD players is that when on CD is finished the next CD
almosts begins right away. I think the buffer loads it before the actually CD
is loaded.
As far as the XM tuner I wondered about that myself, I don't think I'll ever
get XM unless I could get a tuner with a digital out.
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| Subject: | Re: Sony P1 compatibility and Sony changer questions |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Doug Dobson" <dougdobson@chartermi.net>
All outputs I've measured are very clean right up to full volume, where some
distortion is visible on an oscilloscope, but VERY minimal. This is the
case with all of the PHs and the Axis that I have.
Not too sure about XM compatibility. I will try to test today. The P1 can
control MD changers and that is how most non-XM receivers see XM, so it is a
possibility.
As far as optical out changers, any unilink changer will work fine with the
P1, and as far as I remember, only unilink changers had optical outs. CD
text will not display on the P1, but of course you will be able to name 110
of your cd.s with each of all but the cheapest changers, and none of the
optical out changers were "cheap". The C1 is by far the best design and
best sounding changer Sony has ever made. Its 45 bit noise shaping
circuitry is to credit here. Of course it is also much larger and much
slower than any current or more recent changer.
This is, by no means a full list, but CDX-C1, CDX-404, CDX-U606( NOT the
1999 model CDX-606), CDX-91, CDX-805, CDX-828, CDX-838, CDX-848
----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin Baron" <justinjbaron@attbi.com>
Subject: XDP4000X-List: Sony P1 compatibility and Sony changer questions
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Justin Baron <justinjbaron@attbi.com>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Haven't posted here since mid-2001. I have some questions about a product
> I just purchased - XES-P1. I know it's not an xdp4k, but you guys seem to
> know some things about XES gear.
>
> First off, does anyone know if the P1's analog output clips at full
> volume? Does anyone know if the outputs of the X1 clip at full volume,
> when used with the P1? I'll eventually measure this myself, but I'm
curious.
>
> I've yet to find definitive information about the usage of the P1 with the
> XT-XM1 tuner. Some reports say that the P1 cannot be used to control the
> XT-XM1 whatsoever. Some reports are that general functionality such as
> station changing and station number display are available. I believe the
> P1 has limited ability to display text such as track or cd info from any
> device. Does anyone have specific experience with the P1 and XM
> tuner? How does the P1 refer to the tuner when connected via
> unilink/analog - "Aux"?
>
> About changers. How does the C1 stack up against newer changers that
> offered optical output? Are there any optical-out changers that cannot be
> used with the P1 for any reason? I understand that I'd have only limited
> text display, but are there any other caveats to consider with any
> changers? Of all optical-out changers, are any of decidedly higher
quality
> than the others? Anyone have a list of optical-out changers from
yesterday
> and today?
>
> Finally - I will eventually want to install a CD unit in the dash for easy
> disc changes. Since the P1 will always be adjusted independently of
> whatever CD unit I use, I don't really need a Sony CD unit. Does anyone
> know if there are any high-quality dash-mounted cd transports from any
> manufacturer with optical output? I'd prefer a transport only, with no
> tuner. Nak makes such units but I believe they all use coaxial digital
> outputs...
>
> Thanks for any and all information!
>
> Justin
>
>
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| Subject: | part # for copper... |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Hyo68@aol.com
Does anyone know the part # for the copper piece that holds the xa adapter in
place? Thanks!
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