---------------------------------------------------------- XDP4000X-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 05/25/03: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:36 AM - Re: Pioneer with Optical Out (Colin (DP Motorsport)) 2. 08:05 AM - Re: Pioneer with Optical Out (Sqxpert@aol.com) 3. 09:21 AM - Re: Pioneer with Optical Out (Doug Dobson) 4. 09:52 AM - Re: Pioneer with Optical Out (Colin (DP Motorsport)) 5. 01:37 PM - Re: Pioneer with Optical Out (Sqxpert@aol.com) 6. 02:20 PM - Re: Pioneer with Optical Out (Doug Dobson) 7. 05:28 PM - Re: Pioneer with Optical Out (Roland M) 8. 06:33 PM - Re: Pioneer with Optical Out (Doug Dobson) 9. 08:07 PM - Re: Pioneer with Optical Out (Sqxpert@aol.com) 10. 08:09 PM - Re: Pioneer with Optical Out (Sqxpert@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:36:57 AM PST US From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: Pioneer with Optical Out --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" oh well, not going down that route then -----Original Message----- From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Doug Dobson Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Pioneer with Optical Out --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Doug Dobson" The optical out simple transmits the digital signal in its purest form to be processed later. There is no way to control volume of an optical signal. So, yes you would need the 910 for all of its functions and the Pioneer would be a cd slot. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: Pioneer with Optical Out > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" > > Would the volume control not work on the Pioneer unit? Then i would only use > the C910 selection of presets? > > Colin > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bobby > Braun > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Pioneer with Optical Out > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Bobby Braun > > I'm still trying to think of why you would want to do that anyways. > You'd still need to use your c-910 for volume control, and selection of > crossover and sound presets, since these are all unilink controlled, along > with power on and off. So in essence, all you'd be using the pioneer for is > the actual soundstream, of which you could just as easily get from your > c910. > Sure, what you are thinking would work, but why? Just for a new look in > your dash? I don't think it's worth the pain. > > Bobby > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin" > To: > Subject: XDP4000X-List: Pioneer with Optical Out > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin" > > > > I was just thinking, I want a new HU but Sony doesnt do any that have > > an optical out anymore. Pioneer have units with optical outs on them, > > I was wondering if you could use one of them with the XDP-4000x? I > > know you need a unilink to turn the 4k on, so I was thinking about > > putting my C910 in the boot with the unilink connected and the optical > > out from the pioneer connected up to the 4k. > > > > Colin > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:05:09 AM PST US From: Sqxpert@aol.com Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Pioneer with Optical Out --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com yeah, seems like to much of a hassel to me also , i can t se spending the money on something like that , if you where going to , i would just get a p-9 set-up oooppps , i said the p word- lol anyways , if interested, if you check on the carsound forum, good friend of mine will shiffield has one for sale, just e-mail him, and let him know, hes a great guy, and can help you w/ anything you need tim koehle ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:21:31 AM PST US From: "Doug Dobson" Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Pioneer with Optical Out --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Doug Dobson" Your good friends name is Will Thorne. And if I'm not mistaken the P-9 combo was sold a week ago. Haven't seen any others for sale lately. ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Pioneer with Optical Out > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com > > yeah, seems like to much of a hassel to me also , i can t se spending the > money on something like that , if you where going to , i would just get a p-9 > set-up > > > oooppps , i said the p word- lol > > anyways , if interested, if you check on the carsound forum, good friend of > mine will shiffield has one for sale, > > just e-mail him, and let him know, hes a great guy, and can help you w/ > anything you need > > > tim koehle > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:52:44 AM PST US From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: Pioneer with Optical Out --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" I don't like the C910 or C90, IMHO, so wanted a different HU and the new Pioneer DEH-P77MP is so nice and if the volume on that unit had worked i would of went ahead with it but wont bother now. Colin ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:37:01 PM PST US From: Sqxpert@aol.com Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Pioneer with Optical Out --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com yeah, i allways get those 2 confused- lol- anyways got a quick question again, maybe kinda stupid but here it goes: im looking for a longer bus cable to run to my 4000x, from my c-90 anyone know where i can find such a bus cable? maybe @ radio shack-witch employes the stupidest, of the stupid! or any place online? thanks guys, and if will , you are reading this, sorry man lol tim koehle ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:20:46 PM PST US From: "Doug Dobson" Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Pioneer with Optical Out --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Doug Dobson" how long a cable do you need? ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:28:17 PM PST US From: "Roland M" Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Pioneer with Optical Out --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" >--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Doug Dobson" > > >The optical out simple transmits the digital signal in its purest form to >be >processed later. There is no way to control volume of an optical signal. >So, yes you would need the 910 for all of its functions and the Pioneer >would be a cd slot. > This statement is not really true. It is indeed possible to vary the volume/level of the signal in the S/PDIF format (whether it is optical or coaxial). There are many different kinds of equipment that allow the change of volume digially for the S/PDIF output stream. Examples include audio equipment such as MD decks that allow you to change the output level and computer USB sound devices (with optical outputs) that vary the volume as you change the volume control(s) in Windows... However, you're correct in that car HUs like these discussed do not do that--the digital processor is used to control volume and the output from the HU is a constant, 0dB reference level straight signal. Indeed using another HU and simply connecting to the input on the XDP unit would require all sound controls to be done through the Sony head making it a rather awkward setup... Roland M. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:33:52 PM PST US From: "Doug Dobson" Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Pioneer with Optical Out --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Doug Dobson" The sound is transmitted to the processor through the optical cable.. It is then processed by whatever electronics are used, be it a sound card or another digital processor. This is the main reason no one has done a stand alone all-in-one processor for the car. If you are adjusting the output through the optical out, you are using a form of dsp in the source. At that point you might as well do all of the processing ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:07:41 PM PST US From: Sqxpert@aol.com Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Pioneer with Optical Out --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com well the cable i have now, it seems like it will go to the back of my seat, and no longer than that , running off the c-90, i need it to go all the way back to the trunk , inside the tire well thanks doug tim koehle ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:09:43 PM PST US From: Sqxpert@aol.com Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Pioneer with Optical Out --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com ohh by the way , if you didn t know, it is a 95 chevy monte carlo thanks again doug tim koehle