---------------------------------------------------------- XDP4000X-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 07/12/03: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:15 PM - Re: Sony DVX-100 Changer... (Matt Dralle) 2. 09:04 PM - DVD changer from sony... (leo g. divinagracia iii) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:15:44 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Sony DVX-100 Changer... --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Matt Dralle Hi Roland, Thank you for the detailed reply. I had no idea that that changer wasn't Unilink-native. I went back and reread the web site info and it indeed doesn't mention unilink or connection to head units. Its interesting that there is a unilink adapter available - for an extra 100 bucks. But, at $1100, the unit is getting a little on the pricey side. Why does an extra $100 suddenly make it pricey? I don't know; it just seemed like a lot of money all of a sudden. Anyway, if someone had a wad of cash to blow, it seems like it would be a fun project to see if you could get this baby working with the 4000x. Although more expensive, it does seem like an interesting alternative to the Phatbox. Matt Dralle At 10:35 PM 7/11/2003 Friday, you wrote: >--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" > > >--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle) > > > > > >Second, I noted that it mentioned a "Optical Digital Output: The > >DVX-100 has an optical digital output that can be linked to a DTS/Dolby > >Digital processor." Does this happen to output 48k, PCM if you play a > >DVD with MP3's on it (thus compatible with the optical input on the > >4000x)? > > > >Anyone on the List played with one of these and particularly with regard > >to the 4000x? > > > >Thanks! > > > >Matt Dralle > > > > > >Matt, while I've never used that unit and can't answer most of your >questions, I can answer a few of them. (By the way when I say "UniLink >adapter" in the course of this email I mean the adapter that is available >for that changer to make it into a UniLink controlled changer.) > >About the optical output there are two things to think about. One is that >the XDP will NEVER use either of its digital inputs unless (as I described >in the last discussion of the PhatBox) it gets the signal from the master >(in the case of the HU input) or the slave (in the case of the changer >input) VIA UNILINK telling it that the particular device is in digital >output mode. If it does not get that signal it would NOT use the digital >input. You could use a toslink switcher and use the "trick" mode of having >a changer with digital output selected and then change the optical feed over >to the other device (in this case the DVD changer) but that is a hassle at >best. > >To get the optical output working seamlessly you would need the $100 UniLink >adapter for that changer that should be available now from Sony. Now if >that adapter allows for a digital "switch" position the XDP will gladly >accept the digital signal from the DVX and use it. If it does not offer >that facility you are out of luck as far as seamless integration goes. > >The second thing you have to look at is what you described. Most DVD >players have an option to put their ouput to either DolbyDigital/DTS (aka >MPEG) output while playing DVDs or PCM output (available for DolbyDigital >tracks only unless the player has a built in DTS decoder which the DVX does >not). Obviously the XDP is not compatible with an MPEG digital stream so >the DVX would also have to have a setting to change its output to PCM for >DVDs in order for it to work. I'm confident it would have this setting, >however you wouldn't be able to use PCM for DTS soundtracks like I >mentioned. (This is in addition to the stuff I said about their being a >digital "switch" on the XA UniLink adapter for the DVX). > >As for MP3 CDs the same applies again... Some DVD players allow PCM output >of MP3 CDs and some offer no digital ouput for MP3 discs at all. Others >have the choice between outputting raw MP3 data or PCM through the digital >outputs. So long as the DVX had the option to set MP3 output to PCM digital >(or it did this by default) that would be what you're looking for. > >Keep in mind, AGAIN, for the digital INPUT on the XDP to work/be active, the >slave (in this case the UniLink adapter for the DVX) would have to indicate >it is in digital mode. If the adapter did not allow this you would have to >implement the switcharoo on the optical cable but this would also require >you NOT to be using the UniLink adapter because you'd have to fool it into >thinking it was on a digital changer instead. > >I don't know if the UniLink adapter allows the UniLink Audio Mode to be >indicated to the master as digital or not, but I have the inkling that it >wouldn't somehow because Sony always mucks things up like that. > >This might sound confusing, and I apologise if it does but to everything I >know about XDP units and DVD players this is how it is. > >Roland M. > > Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft There's three sides to every story, babe. There's your's; there's mine; and there's the cold, hard truth... Don Henley Long Way Home, 1982 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:04:22 PM PST US From: "leo g. divinagracia iii" Subject: XDP4000X-List: DVD changer from sony... --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "leo g. divinagracia iii" FWIW, last CES, i grilled the sony droids there. well the thing needs a $300 unilink adapter. so i dont know if the specs changed or the price went down... -- ----------------------- Leo G. Divinagracia III ldivinag@csuhayward.edu