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1. 07:55 AM - Re: no target unit! (Sqxpert@aol.com)
2. 12:11 PM - Re: Phatbox and other changers ? (Dick Brussee)
3. 12:17 PM - Re: Re: I have done some research with the Phatbox (Dick Brussee)
4. 02:05 PM - Re: Re: I have done some research with the (Matt Dralle)
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| Subject: | Re: no target unit! |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Sqxpert@aol.com
got everything to work last night ,
now on to the tuneing,
thanks for everyones help
tim koehle
p.s. it was the cable afterall
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| Subject: | Re: Phatbox and other changers ? |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Dick Brussee" <djpbruss@xs4all.nl>
I have a C30 and a U40D and (at home) a U40. But when I connect it, the cd
changer is starting to load a cd but never stops with that sound. So it
sounds like it is loading a cd for hours. (CDX-M70)
My CDX-828 does not function at all when I connect the phatbox.
So I meant : on what input is the phatbox, c30, xdp4000, etc.
I have got a few tips from Matt which I will try out...
Let's say this isn't the last thing you've heard of it ;)
Dick Brussee
The Netherlands
> >I have the phatbox finally working on my "simple" setup. It's a great
> >machine ! The thing is : do you guys have an extra CD changer or any
> >changer
> >connected to the system with the phatbox ? If so : how did you connect
that
> >?
> >
> >Dick Brussee
>
> Unless the PhatBox has a UniLink "pass-thru" then adding another changer
> would be just like adding any two or more changers to a UniLink system...
> You require either any of the following Multi-Changer Adapters (MCAs):
> XA-C30 (connect up to 3 changers, current model), XA-U40 (connect up to 4
> changers, past model), XA-U20 (connect up to 2 changers, past model). Or
if
> you could ever find a Blaupunkt "CDC-BRIDGE" for cheap it is the same as
the
> XA-U40. (That is what I did and it only cost $5 US!!! :)
>
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| Subject: | Re: I have done some research with the Phatbox |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Dick Brussee" <djpbruss@xs4all.nl>
By the way Matt : why DO you have two XPD-4000X's. And what is connected to
it ? Seperate left and right DSP ?
First I have to rebuild my car. I want the Phatbox not near my subwoofer
(hey, it's a harddisk and I know harddisks from my work. They suddenly stop
living)
I know that harddisks will survive better when they are horizontally, not
vertical, so I would like this one in my glove compartiment. (I only wear
gloves when I'm on my bike and only when it's winter)
Thanks for now and I will let you know every step of the way.
BTW : why does the List function not work with the Phatbox ? I always use
that with the minidisc or with CD-Text CD's.
Best regards,
Dick Brussee
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com>
Subject: XDP4000X-List: Re: I have done some research with the Phatbox
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
>
> Hi Dick,
>
> You might want to write Mike Woo at Phatnoise directly. He is the
firmware
> engineer that I worked with on the updates for the C90/4000x. He was
> always very responsive. His email address is: mwoo@phatnoise.com
>
> I've included a couple of PDFs links of my system. Ignore the comments on
> the drawings; most were to support the dialog I was having at the time
with
> Mike regarding the Firmware.
>
> http://www.matronics.com/xdp4000x/CorvetteSystem.pdf
> http://www.matronics.com/xdp4000x/XA-C30_Wiring_Version_2.pdf
>
> The drawings do give you a good idea of the complexity of the
> system. About the only thing I've found that doesn't really work is
adding
> the third CD Changer into the system. I think there is just too much
stuff
> on the system at that point and things work somewhat unreliably.
>
> Sounds to me like there is a confliction with your particular model of CD
> Changer and the Phatbox. The Unilink protocol is a weird one (to say the
> least), and it's amazing it works at all, frankly. The Phatbox and the CD
> Changer may be dukeing it out for the slave 0 position.
>
> Mike might be able to get his hands on a CD Changer similar to yours to do
> some testing. Or, he might ask to have you send it to him for testing. I
> sent Mike a 4000x, and a XA-300 to get things working on my system. He
was
> really good about getting right on the work and then sending the units
back
> when he was done.
>
> Keep me and the List up to date on your progress.
>
> Matt Dralle
>
>
> At 04:09 AM 7/25/2003 Friday, you wrote:
> >Hello Matt,
> >
> >This is what I sent to Phatnoise :
> >
> >As soon as I connect the phatbox with other changers, the phatbox is the
> >boss and all changer go in a hangup or do nothing at all. I have tried to
> >reset my headunit : no change. As soon as I remove the unilink from the
> >phatbox, the CD changer starts to live again. What is going on and what
> >can I do. Is there a problem with the Phat-cable Cas-001 Sony-60 ? Do I
> >have the wrong cable ?
> >
> >I'm using a CDX-C90R and a XDP 4000X. When I connect it directly to the
> >headunit, It works, but there is no sound (very soft) When I connect an
> >extra CD changer, the changer goes in hangup (does nothing at all)So
> >something goes wrong in the communication with the Sony stuf.
> >
> >I hope you know what to do
> >Kind regards,
> >
> >Dick Brussee
>
>
> Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
> 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
> http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
>
>
> There's three sides to every story, babe. There's your's;
> there's mine; and there's the cold, hard truth...
>
> Don Henley
> Long Way Home, 1982
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: I have done some research with the |
Phatbox
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
I have a 4000x for the front and another for the rear. That way I can
adjust the EQs separately. Even though I have exactly the same brand and
type of speakers in the front and the back, the dynamics of the mounting
and enclosure volumes are significantly different. Just made sense to have
two 4000x. Well, that and its pretty cool... :-)
Regarding the CD Changers, I have hooked the Phatbox up with both 838 and
848 changers with no problems. What if you just put in a single C30 and
connect the changer to one port and the Phatbox to another? Try putting
the Phatbox on the #1 input (or is that output?) on the C30. Used to be
that the Phatbox had to be on the #1 port. I thought that that had been
fixed in the Phatbox firmware, though.
Yeah, the List function doesn't work which is kind of a bummer.
Another thing I really wish the Phatbox did was create the Track and Title
display data from the ID3v1/2 tags instead of the filenames. I have a
Creative Jukebox 3 and it automatically reads this data when it displays
tracks and albums. Not a big deal I guess, but it seems like a simple
enough modification in the Phatmanager.
Anyway, keep us posted on your progress...
Matt
At 12:20 PM 7/26/2003 Saturday, you wrote:
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Dick Brussee" <djpbruss@xs4all.nl>
>
>By the way Matt : why DO you have two XPD-4000X's. And what is connected to
>it ? Seperate left and right DSP ?
>
>First I have to rebuild my car. I want the Phatbox not near my subwoofer
>(hey, it's a harddisk and I know harddisks from my work. They suddenly stop
>living)
>
>I know that harddisks will survive better when they are horizontally, not
>vertical, so I would like this one in my glove compartiment. (I only wear
>gloves when I'm on my bike and only when it's winter)
>
>Thanks for now and I will let you know every step of the way.
>
>BTW : why does the List function not work with the Phatbox ? I always use
>that with the minidisc or with CD-Text CD's.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Dick Brussee
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com>
>To: "Dick Brussee" <dbsoft@xs4all.nl>
>Subject: XDP4000X-List: Re: I have done some research with the Phatbox
>
>
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
> >
> > Hi Dick,
> >
> > You might want to write Mike Woo at Phatnoise directly. He is the
>firmware
> > engineer that I worked with on the updates for the C90/4000x. He was
> > always very responsive. His email address is: mwoo@phatnoise.com
> >
> > I've included a couple of PDFs links of my system. Ignore the comments on
> > the drawings; most were to support the dialog I was having at the time
>with
> > Mike regarding the Firmware.
> >
> > http://www.matronics.com/xdp4000x/CorvetteSystem.pdf
> > http://www.matronics.com/xdp4000x/XA-C30_Wiring_Version_2.pdf
> >
> > The drawings do give you a good idea of the complexity of the
> > system. About the only thing I've found that doesn't really work is
>adding
> > the third CD Changer into the system. I think there is just too much
>stuff
> > on the system at that point and things work somewhat unreliably.
> >
> > Sounds to me like there is a confliction with your particular model of CD
> > Changer and the Phatbox. The Unilink protocol is a weird one (to say the
> > least), and it's amazing it works at all, frankly. The Phatbox and the CD
> > Changer may be dukeing it out for the slave 0 position.
> >
> > Mike might be able to get his hands on a CD Changer similar to yours to do
> > some testing. Or, he might ask to have you send it to him for testing. I
> > sent Mike a 4000x, and a XA-300 to get things working on my system. He
>was
> > really good about getting right on the work and then sending the units
>back
> > when he was done.
> >
> > Keep me and the List up to date on your progress.
> >
> > Matt Dralle
> >
> >
> > At 04:09 AM 7/25/2003 Friday, you wrote:
> > >Hello Matt,
> > >
> > >This is what I sent to Phatnoise :
> > >
> > >As soon as I connect the phatbox with other changers, the phatbox is the
> > >boss and all changer go in a hangup or do nothing at all. I have tried to
> > >reset my headunit : no change. As soon as I remove the unilink from the
> > >phatbox, the CD changer starts to live again. What is going on and what
> > >can I do. Is there a problem with the Phat-cable Cas-001 Sony-60 ? Do I
> > >have the wrong cable ?
> > >
> > >I'm using a CDX-C90R and a XDP 4000X. When I connect it directly to the
> > >headunit, It works, but there is no sound (very soft) When I connect an
> > >extra CD changer, the changer goes in hangup (does nothing at all)So
> > >something goes wrong in the communication with the Sony stuf.
> > >
> > >I hope you know what to do
> > >Kind regards,
> > >
> > >Dick Brussee
> >
> >
> > Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
> > 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
> > http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
> >
> >
> > There's three sides to every story, babe. There's your's;
> > there's mine; and there's the cold, hard truth...
> >
> > Don Henley
> > Long Way Home, 1982
> >
> >
>
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
There's three sides to every story, babe. There's your's;
there's mine; and there's the cold, hard truth...
Don Henley
Long Way Home, 1982
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