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1. 09:42 AM - OT: Hilarious (Lord Dremgragen)
2. 10:12 AM - Re: OT: Hilarious (Scott Thibault)
3. 05:21 PM - A question for the pro's. (Steven Kephart)
4. 10:09 PM - Re: A question for the pro's. (Roland M)
5. 10:18 PM - Re: Double sided sticker under joystick (Roland M)
6. 11:07 PM - Re: A question for the pro's. (Steven Kephart)
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Lord Dremgragen" <dremgragen@hotmail.com>
Check out this link, it's got a hilarious clip. I had to share it with
everybody. :)
http://www.waveworks.net/mac.html
-Brody Z.
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Subject: | Re: OT: Hilarious |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Scott Thibault <tbone7467@yahoo.com>
I saw that a while back and it was quite funny
Lord Dremgragen <dremgragen@hotmail.com> wrote:--> XDP4000X-List message posted
by: "Lord Dremgragen"
Check out this link, it's got a hilarious clip. I had to share it with
everybody. :)
http://www.waveworks.net/mac.html
-Brody Z.
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Subject: | A question for the pro's. |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Steven Kephart" <kephart@charter.net>
My CD player (CDXC-880) just recently went out. It
stopped tracking CD's. The solution to this is to buy a
CD changer (If anyone has one for sale, please let me
know).
This got me thinking. I personally NEVER listen to the
radio. In fact, the antenna isn't even hooked up to my
head unit. From what I understand, when we have the 4000X
hooked up to our head units, it disables the head unit's
pre-amp and becomes the new pre-amp. Since I am not using
the head units CD player or radio, the only thing it is
good for is displaying the information and the use of
certain buttons.
I had an interesting idea that is beyond the scope of my
abilities, but may not be for some here. My question to
you is, can you easily take the face plate, the circuitry
in the head unit that controls it, and the output to the
processor and remove that from the head unit's enclosure?
That way we could do away with the head unit completely
and mount the faceplate somewhere else in a much more
compact location. Controls would still function on it,
but also the wired and wireless remotes would be still
hopefully useful. In fact with using the remotes, you
would possibly only need the display itself.
If this is easily possible, could someone describe how to
do this to me? If this works, I think it would be of
benifit to many of us. I will understand if this isn't
something easily done.
Thanks,
Steven Kephart
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Subject: | Re: A question for the pro's. |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Steven Kephart" <kephart@charter.net>
>
>My CD player (CDXC-880) just recently went out. It
>stopped tracking CD's. The solution to this is to buy a
>CD changer (If anyone has one for sale, please let me
>know).
>
>I had an interesting idea that is beyond the scope of my
>abilities, but may not be for some here. My question to
>you is, can you easily take the face plate, the circuitry
>in the head unit that controls it, and the output to the
>processor and remove that from the head unit's enclosure?
> That way we could do away with the head unit completely
>and mount the faceplate somewhere else in a much more
>compact location. Controls would still function on it,
>but also the wired and wireless remotes would be still
>hopefully useful. In fact with using the remotes, you
>would possibly only need the display itself.
>
>If this is easily possible, could someone describe how to
>do this to me? If this works, I think it would be of
>benifit to many of us. I will understand if this isn't
>something easily done.
>
>Thanks,
>Steven Kephart
>_-
First off sorry to hear your C880 stopped reading discs--those units were
quite good and didn't have many problems really... You could always replace
the pickup--I think a unit in the C880 era/class has a pickup that is
between $60-$75. If you don't know or have equipment to install and
calibrate it though, it may not be worth the bother. It is probably still
covered under Sony's flat-rate ($125 US) repair program but you could
probably get a used one for less than that.
That said, your idea about relocating the faceplate and related electronics
has been done before! I've seen someone who took a Pioneer unit and
relocated the FP to his rearview mirror! However he had to leave the HU in
place (but he did still use it to load CDs and for the radio though). He
merely did some extending of the connections of the ribbon cable/faceplate
connector via some careful wiring and then mounted took the faceplate out of
its casing and mounted it within the rearview mirror.
I suppose you could strip some of the additional electronics you didn't
need, like the tuner "front-end" and CD drive/pickup/loading assembly. Most
of the main circuit board (which likely includes the internal amps) would
have to be kept intact though. I'd say you'd probably be able to get away
with stripping everything but the main board (which should include the power
supply I think) and display inverter, and of course the faceplate itself.
You would definitely want a service manual for the unit though to make sure
you aren't taking out any vital components.
It isn't EASILY done but it isn't overly difficult either. It just takes
some electronics/electrical knowhow and possibly construction of a housing
and location to put the faceplate electronics and a place to safely hide the
mainboard electronics. It isn't something I'd personally care to do, but
yes it is very possible to perform this "mod" to your HU.
Roland M.
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Subject: | Re: Double sided sticker under joystick |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
Sony recommends attaching both the sticky foam tape and using the screws.
However I'm sure using the screws does a fine job anyway. The later
versions of the wired remote included not only the small double-sided foam
tape but also included a strange looking rather large patch of rubber (with
double sided tape) that was PART OF (attached to) the mounting base rubber
covering. Anyone that has this later remote will know what I am talking
about...
Anyhow if the original "question asker" is still looking for double sided
tape you can use a variety of 3M products that would work. One is the 3M
"mounting squares" that are a double sided foam tape which comes in squares
(I've seen this in Canada at Staples/Business Depot) they are rated to hold
up to 2lbs I think. The others are 3M "Command" adhesive strips which are
rated to hold more weight but have a thinner foam in between the sticky
sides. Also 3M has what they call "outdoor mounting tape" which comes in a
roll and looks quite rugged. It has a red peel-away and grey foam. The
latter two products I've seen at Home Depot, by the way.
In any case, however, I would recommend using the screws. So really I'd say
you could use the screws all by themselves or both the screws and the foam
tape. But I wouldn't go with just the tape because I'm willing to bet it
would just come off after time/use.
Roland M.
>From: Randy Visentine <jvisentine@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
>To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Double sided sticker under joystick
>Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 19:35:24 -0700 (PDT)
>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Randy Visentine <jvisentine@yahoo.com>
>
>I'm sure this is obvious, but you can attatch the
>joystick with screws as well (as I did)...
>
>Later
>
>Randy V.
>
>
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Subject: | Re: A question for the pro's. |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Steven Kephart" <kephart@charter.net>
"First off sorry to hear your C880 stopped reading
discs--those units were quite good and didn't have many
problems really..."
Thanks. I bought it about 5 years ago, and it has been a
good head unit. It's kinda a cross between the 910 and 90
in that it had some features the 90 later included.
I don't know if it would help, but you can check out my
install here:
http://www.sounddomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=304268
"You could always replace the pickup--I think a unit in
the C880 era/class has a pickup that is between $60-$75.
If you don't know or have equipment to install and
calibrate it though, it may not be worth the bother."
Getting to the CD part is real simple. I noticed it just
plugs into the main board fairly easy. But calibrating it
wouldn't be something I could do.
I thought about trying to find someone who has this head
unit (or similar if it would work) that has lost their
face plate, and instead bought a new head unit. That
means they have the part I need. If it isn't the same
model number, then I could possibly take out the CD player
portion on it and put it into my head unit. But trying to
find one might be very difficult. Do you know if other
models CD portion will work in my case?
Also, I know of a place that might sell just the CD
section. It is pacparts.com or Pacific Coast Parts. But
I don't know what the part is that I would need. Anyone
know what it would be?
"It is probably still covered under Sony's flat-rate ($125
US) repair program but you could probably get a used one
for less than that."
Yeah, after shipping it probably wouldn't be worth it.
But it may. Thanks for the suggestion.
"That said, your idea about relocating the faceplate and
related electronics has been done before! I've seen
someone who took a Pioneer unit and relocated the FP to
his rearview mirror! However he had to leave the HU in
place (but he did still use it to load CDs and for the
radio though). He merely did some extending of the
connections of the ribbon cable/faceplate connector via
some careful wiring and then mounted took the faceplate
out of its casing and mounted it within the rearview
mirror."
Yeah, I have seen that done before as well, and
contimplated doing it myself. What I am thinking now
would be more extreme. I wanted to pretty much eliminate
the head unit totally. Since the processor is the
pre-amp, remotes control it, changer is the CD player, all
that is left is a very large (volume) display. If I could
just mount the face plate and not worry about the other
stuff, then that would be awesome. I was even thinking of
maybe using a LCD screen as the display if that is
possible. Does anyone here know?
"You would definitely want a service manual for the unit
though to make sure you aren't taking out any vital
components."
I just noticed one listed at that Pacific Coast Parts
place. If you know of another place to get one, please
let me know.
Thanks for the help so far.
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