XDP4000X-List Digest Archive

Mon 11/03/03


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 05:43 AM - Wanted - C90 (Pete)
     2. 07:37 AM - Clipping the output of a XDP-4000X (Christof Gommers)
     3. 10:16 AM - Re: Clipping the output of a XDP-4000X ()
     4. 04:12 PM - Re: Clipping the output of a XDP-4000X (Randy Visentine)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:43:34 AM PST US
    From: "Pete" <dabrow@orange.net>
    Subject: Wanted - C90
    --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Pete" <dabrow@orange.net> Hi, Anyone with a c90 for sale could you e-mail me with a price, picture and any relevant information. Thank you, Pete -----Original Message----- From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle Subject: XDP4000X-List: 2003 List Fund Raiser - Please Support Your Lists... --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> Dear Listers, During November of each year, I have a voluntary Email List Fund Raiser to support the continued operation, development, maintenance and upgrade of the Email Forums sponsored here. Your Contributions go directly into improvements in the systems that support the Lists and to pay for the Internet connectivity primarily dedicated to supporting the Lists. The traffic on the Lists continues to grow and the numbers are nothing short of impressive! Here are some statistics that show how much traffic the Lists generated this year alone: * 11/01/2002 - 10/31/2003 o Web server hits: 10,446,780 (870,565/mo) o Incoming Email Posts: 58,918 (4,909/mo) List-related upgrades this year have been plentiful, and List performance has substantially improved as a result. Upgrades and enhancements this year have included: * Internet Connection upgrade to a full, commercial-grade T1 Line! * New Web Server platform - Dual 3Ghz Xeon with 2Gb Ram and U320 SCSI! * Upgrade of Email Server platform - Dual 1.7 Ghz Xeon with 1Gb Ram! * All new SPAM Filtering Appliance - filters about 98% of the unwanted SPAM! * All new, web-base List Chat Room society! As you can well imagine, this year's upgrades translate into a fair amount of cash outlay on my part and this annual List Fund Raiser is the sole means by which I fund these upgrades. Unlike most of the other "list servers" on the Web these days, I have a strict *no-commercial-advertisement policy* on the Matronics Lists and associated List web sites. I was again approached by a number of vendors recently with advertising deals that have been very tempting. My commitment to providing a grass-roots, non-commercial environment prevailed, however! Commercialism on the Internet seems to be increasing exponentially every year, with more and more SPAM and pop up ads, not to mention the ever increasing Virus attacks. My goal with the Matronics List Service is to provide all members The best news this year is that, with the gracious help of Andy Gold and The Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), I have been able to significantly expand the lineup of fantastic Gift offers to support the List Fund Raiser! In all, there are eight awesome free gifts this year ranging from List Archive CD's to Flight Computers with qualifying Contribution levels. Those great Jeppesen Flight Bags that were so popular last year are even back! A special thanks goes out to Andy Gold again this year for his very kind and generous support of the Lists. Thanks Andy, for these great incentives!! Over the next month I'll be posting a few reminder messages about the List Fund Raiser, and I ask for your patience and understanding during the process. Remember that the Lists are *completely* funded through the generous Contributions of its members. That's it! There's no support from a bloated advertising budget or deep pockets somewhere. Its all made possible through YOUR thoughtful and generous support! To make your List Contribution using a Visa or MasterCard, PalPal, or with a personal check, please go to the URL link below. Here you can find additional details on this year's great free Gifts as well as information on the various methods of payment. Contributions in the $20, $30, $50, $75, and $100 range are common. The Contribution web page is kind of long this year with the details of each of the gifts, so please scroll all the way down! SSL Secure Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contributions I would like to thank everyone who supports the Lists this year! Your Contributions truly make it all possible!! Thank you!! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft


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    Time: 07:37:33 AM PST US
    From: Christof Gommers <christof.gommers@easynet.be>
    Subject: Clipping the output of a XDP-4000X
    --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Christof Gommers <christof.gommers@easynet.be> Is it still possible to get the outputs clipping if you are using the optical input on the XDP-4000X (for instance if you set the EQ at +12dB) or is the internal power supply big enough so this can not occur? Just wondering if it is possible or not. Christof.


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    Time: 10:16:09 AM PST US
    From: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
    Subject: Re: Clipping the output of a XDP-4000X
    --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com> Hi there, I do not think it is possible to clip the inputs, since the optical ins/outs should be balanced... I know that when I had the deck cranked at full volume, the audio did not distort in terms of digital distortion. When one overloads typical digital devices, you will get hard distortion that sounds horrible. (Such as recording analog onto a standalone DAT/CD-R deck) I never got it with this DSP Daniel > > From: Christof Gommers <christof.gommers@easynet.be> > Date: 2003/11/03 Mon AM 10:37:43 EST > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com > Subject: XDP4000X-List: Clipping the output of a XDP-4000X > > 1


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    Time: 04:12:42 PM PST US
    From: Randy Visentine <jvisentine@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Clipping the output of a XDP-4000X
    --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Randy Visentine <jvisentine@yahoo.com> If you have a 16bit optical signal at 0dBfs on a CD, and BOOST the EQ by 12dB, and then add more gain in the output section, I am fairly confident you would end up with more than 20 bits (the output converters are 20 bit), causing digital distortion. I don't know the formula for bit-to-dynamic range specs, but I think going from 16 to 24 bit ends up with around 24 dB more headroom, so 20 bit would be more like 12dB gain over a 16 bit signal. Anyway you look at it, digital distortion is not pretty. I don't believe the analog out could be clipped, as the 20 bit D/A's have a finite maximum output level, but I do believe you could run out of bits internally. I have never had any issues with this, but I believe that is why some Sony HUs have a selectable analog output level - I think the 210EQ and XUD-50 are more susceptible to this clipping with a hot analog input with lots of internal digital gain - and that is why the selectable output level is avalible. The Optical outs are at a fixed level (the CD's linear datastream). Later, Randy V. __________________________________




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