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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Bobby Braun" <bobbybraun@comcast.net>
On numerous occasions I've heard of people on this forum that state that
Zapco amps are some of the highest quality amps made. I've just been
briefly looking on ebay at what is offered from Zapco, and I can't honestly
say that I understand where this quality is coming from. Most of the amps
listed sound like something you'd find at a local Radio Shack. I don't know
all too much about the different brand names and differing quality of
amplifiers on the market but would anyone care to take this any further? Any
amp recommendations?
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| Subject: | Re: High end amplifiers? |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Bobby Braun" <bobbybraun@comcast.net>
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>On numerous occasions I've heard of people on this forum that state that
>Zapco amps are some of the highest quality amps made. I've just been
>briefly looking on ebay at what is offered from Zapco, and I can't honestly
>say that I understand where this quality is coming from. Most of the amps
>listed sound like something you'd find at a local Radio Shack. I don't
>know
>all too much about the different brand names and differing quality of
>amplifiers on the market but would anyone care to take this any further?
>Any
>amp recommendations?
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Well how can you say that they "sound like something you'd find at Radio
Shack" when you only say you were "looking on eBay"??? Last time I checked
you couldn't audition an amp online :P
Anyhow, seriously, I don't want to start an argument here but I've never
thought Zapco amps were anything too special myself anyway... Zapco amps
are very expensive, and IMO too expensive for what you get. They are very
good amps but there are lots of amps out there as good or better that cost
less if you ask me. The main thing Zapco has going for them is the
Symbi-Link high voltage/balanced interconnect system. Still even with that,
however, you have to convert the RCAs to Symbi-Link at some point in the
game (preferrably before the cable(s) run any kind of distance).
I've seen a few test reports on Zapco amps and they perform marvelously on
the test bench but they aren't the greatest. For example on more than one
test report I noticed some things not stated in the text but clearly shown
in the performance numbers. For example I've seen Zapco amps with some
strange phase numbers--the channels being a lot more that just a few degrees
out. These kind of little things go unnoticed usually but when you compare
them overall to other amps tested by the same publication you'll see other
amps perform just as well and have no strange phase errors at all AND they
cost much less than the equivalent Zapco amps.
Just one example with the phase error, but really it points to something
larger. Why do these amps cost so much if they can't positively outperform
other amps that cost hundreds less? They are very well built and have high
quality components, no doubt; but all I'm saying is the audio quality from
them? Isn't really "better" than a lot of other amps out there, and this,
proven by test numbers not subjectiveness.
I don't want to start a big uproar here. Zapco makes great amps. I just
think you can get stuff just as great for less money.
Just my $0.02
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