---------------------------------------------------------- XDP4000X-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 01/11/04: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 11:50 AM - Utilization of a cdx-m650 (Tarik Karah) 2. 11:43 PM - Re: Utilization of a cdx-m650 (Roland M) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 11:50:35 AM PST US From: "Tarik Karah" Subject: XDP4000X-List: Utilization of a cdx-m650 --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Tarik Karah" Can one possibly use a cdx-m650 with a xdp-4000x ? Looking at the specs for the cdx-m650 via Crutchfield, says that it has DSP controls. But the real question is, to what extent ? Basically I would like to have a head unit where by, I do not have to worry about removing a faceplate all the time. Sure I would love a cdx-c90, but I get in and out of my truck all day long, and the prospect of removing the head unit all the time is not one I cherish. The cdx-m650 has that stealth all black face, which is non-removable. If I understand it correctly , the xdp-4000x controls everything from volume to the conversion of digital to analog. So with my changer's ( cdx-828 ) digital out going directly to my xdp-4000x , I have purity of signal. The head unit then hopefully just adjusts the eq, and adjusts the volume. Thanks Tarik ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:43:59 PM PST US From: "Roland M" Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: Utilization of a cdx-m650 --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" Yes, I'm pretty sure the CDX-M650 was the only Xplod unit that had DSP control. However it was discontinued quite some years ago, so I'm guessing you are looking at the Crutchfield "archives" site/pages? I think the (cassette) XR-M550 also had DSP Control but I can't be sure about that. I would add however that the M650 (and all Xplod models) dropped the ESP feature as well as had some degree of decline in quality. It was of the Xplod mobile ES series but that wasn't really as good as previous mobile ES products. The M650 may look good but it isn't the greatest in reliability really. If you can find a brand new one you might be a bit better off, as a used one will be, well, already used. I would recommend a CDX-C780, CDX-C7850 or CDX-C880 instead as the quality of those units is much higher, IMO. Of course they have completely different cosmetics/design... (As another note the CDX-C8850 though being the top of the line unit before the C90 the year before Xplod, should not be considered as it had HX DSP and therefore it dropped DSP Control. An excellent unit on its own but you cannot pair it with an XDP unit.) But, yes, the M650 should indeed control the XDP unit--any one of the 766EQ, U50D, 210EQ or 4000X should work. I once saw a competition vehicle featured in a car audio magazine that used the M650 paired with the 4000X. The PC programming aspect of the 4000X still requires a PC of course ;) Roland M. >From: "Tarik Karah" >Reply-To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com >To: >Subject: XDP4000X-List: Utilization of a cdx-m650 >Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 11:50:03 -0800 > >--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Tarik Karah" > >Can one possibly use a cdx-m650 with a xdp-4000x ? Looking at the specs for >the cdx-m650 via Crutchfield, says that it has DSP controls. But the real >question is, to what extent ? Basically I would like to have a head unit >where by, I do not have to worry about removing a faceplate all the time. >Sure I would love a cdx-c90, but I get in and out of my truck all day long, >and the prospect of removing the head unit all the time is not one I >cherish. The cdx-m650 has that stealth all black face, which is >non-removable. If I understand it correctly , the xdp-4000x controls >everything from volume to the conversion of digital to analog. So with my >changer's ( cdx-828 ) digital out going directly to my xdp-4000x , I have >purity of signal. The head unit then hopefully just adjusts the eq, and >adjusts the volume. > >Thanks >Tarik > Learn how to choose, serve, and enjoy wine at Wine @ MSN. http://wine.msn.com/