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1. 04:08 PM - Re: Utilization of a cdx-m650 (Tarik Karah)
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| Subject: | Re: Utilization of a cdx-m650 |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Tarik Karah" <karah@sbcglobal.net>
Thanks for the response. I appreciate the recommendation of the earlier,
higher grade ES line, but I think the non-removable face of the cdx-m650
really suits my needs. As to, if one can get one in good shape is another
question. As to the ESP feature, I believe that the only function I am going
to use the head unit for is, remote volume control of the xdp-4000x.
Thanks again !
Tarik
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: Utilization of a cdx-m650
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>
> Yes, I'm pretty sure the CDX-M650 was the only Xplod unit that had DSP
> control. However it was discontinued quite some years ago, so I'm
guessing
> you are looking at the Crutchfield "archives" site/pages? I think the
> (cassette) XR-M550 also had DSP Control but I can't be sure about that.
>
> I would add however that the M650 (and all Xplod models) dropped the ESP
> feature as well as had some degree of decline in quality. It was of the
> Xplod mobile ES series but that wasn't really as good as previous mobile
ES
> products.
>
> The M650 may look good but it isn't the greatest in reliability really.
If
> you can find a brand new one you might be a bit better off, as a used one
> will be, well, already used. I would recommend a CDX-C780, CDX-C7850 or
> CDX-C880 instead as the quality of those units is much higher, IMO. Of
> course they have completely different cosmetics/design... (As another
note
> the CDX-C8850 though being the top of the line unit before the C90 the
year
> before Xplod, should not be considered as it had HX DSP and therefore it
> dropped DSP Control. An excellent unit on its own but you cannot pair it
> with an XDP unit.)
>
> But, yes, the M650 should indeed control the XDP unit--any one of the
766EQ,
> U50D, 210EQ or 4000X should work. I once saw a competition vehicle
featured
> in a car audio magazine that used the M650 paired with the 4000X. The PC
> programming aspect of the 4000X still requires a PC of course ;)
>
> Roland M.
>
> >From: "Tarik Karah" <karah@sbcglobal.net>
> >Reply-To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> >To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: XDP4000X-List: Utilization of a cdx-m650
> >Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 11:50:03 -0800
> >
> >--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Tarik Karah" <karah@sbcglobal.net>
> >
> >Can one possibly use a cdx-m650 with a xdp-4000x ? Looking at the specs
for
> >the cdx-m650 via Crutchfield, says that it has DSP controls. But the real
> >question is, to what extent ? Basically I would like to have a head unit
> >where by, I do not have to worry about removing a faceplate all the time.
> >Sure I would love a cdx-c90, but I get in and out of my truck all day
long,
> >and the prospect of removing the head unit all the time is not one I
> >cherish. The cdx-m650 has that stealth all black face, which is
> >non-removable. If I understand it correctly , the xdp-4000x controls
> >everything from volume to the conversion of digital to analog. So with my
> >changer's ( cdx-828 ) digital out going directly to my xdp-4000x , I have
> >purity of signal. The head unit then hopefully just adjusts the eq, and
> >adjusts the volume.
> >
> >Thanks
> >Tarik
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: Utilization of a cdx-m650 |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>From: "Tarik Karah" <karah@sbcglobal.net>
>Reply-To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
>To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Utilization of a cdx-m650
>Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:08:07 -0800
>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Tarik Karah" <karah@sbcglobal.net>
>
>Thanks for the response. I appreciate the recommendation of the earlier,
>higher grade ES line, but I think the non-removable face of the cdx-m650
>really suits my needs. As to, if one can get one in good shape is another
>question. As to the ESP feature, I believe that the only function I am
>going
>to use the head unit for is, remote volume control of the xdp-4000x.
>Thanks again !
>Tarik
>
>
Hey no problem re the info :) Since you said you wouldn't be using the ESP
or using the M650 for anything other than controlling the XDP, then I'm
assuming you wouldn't be using the CD mechanism of the M650 at all? The
reason I ask is because (you may already know this but I'm not sure from
your answer) ESP is the Electronic Shock Protection for the CD section of
the HU. Since the M650 doesn't have this feature it will be susceptible to
skipping due to hard vibrations from the road. Some early Xplod-unit-owners
complained of skipping even during heavy bass notes :(
I realise you probably plan on using the CDX-828 most of the time for CD
playback but I would think that you might use the M650s CD unit at least
some of the time--so it might be something to consider.
If you really think you'll NEVER use the M650s CD section, you may want to
check into finding out about (and subsequently finding) an XR-M550.
Identical in looks and features to the M650 but has a cassette drive instead
of CD. I'm pretty sure it also supports DSP control--I'm not 100% sure but
I'm pretty sure. You may want to check into that. The reason? Well you'll
probably be able to get an XR-M550 a good bit cheaper than a CDX-M650. Then
again the M550 is even more rare than the M650 so the M650 might work out
better for you anyhow.
Just some additional points to ponder :)
Roland M.
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