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1. 09:53 AM - Any C90 + XT40v users? (Woudsma, Mark)
2. 11:47 AM - Re: Any C90 + XT40v users? (Woudsma, Mark)
3. 12:32 PM - Re: alternative SQ affordable amps for tweet and mid (John Anderson)
4. 03:00 PM - Re: Re: alternative SQ affordable amps for tweet and mid (NOTGSXR@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Any C90 + XT40v users? |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Woudsma, Mark" <Mark.Woudsma@am.sony.com>
Hello 4000x'ers,
Recently I added an XT-40V tv tuner to my system consisting of a CDX-C90,
4000x and CDX-805.
The XT-40v was installed in the unilink bus between the changer and the
4000x. Everything works fine except one thing-
The LIST function. It seems that its backwards. Heres my dilema:
I wish to hide my c90 from view and only use its remote, along with the GUI
generated by the 40V and an in-dash LCD screen.
With my c90 connected, and a cd from the changer playing, the 40v displays
the list of all 10 discs in the changer. When I push LIST, the c90 faceplate
screen displays the list, but the 40v output screen then displays the
"spinning disc" graphic, plus the CD#, track # and track time. The output of
the 40v is reversed from what the c90 displays on its screen. To me this
seems backwards.
Does anyone else here have this same configuration???? Im wondering if this
is supposed to function this way, or is it a problem with the c90.
For comparison sake, I tested the c90 without the 4000x in the loop and the
same results were obtained. Also, I have an older XR-U800 deck laying
around (from the same era as the 40v) and hooked it up to test. The XR-U800
is the older style, and does not have a source or sound or list buttons, but
rather a "file" button that calls up the list on the 40v's output. With this
desk it works the right way.
I also tested this with a CDX-C7850, a ES deck that is a few years old, with
a source, list and sound button. It also was able to control the 40v, and it
also worked correctly. (when playing a cd from the changer, the 40v displays
the CD#, Track # and Track time, and so does the C7850's screen. When
pushing LIST, the 40v displays the LIST of the 10 CD's in the changer.
Thanks,
Mark W
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| Subject: | RE: Any C90 + XT40v users? |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Woudsma, Mark" <Mark.Woudsma@am.sony.com>
Hello 4000x'ers,
Recently I added an XT-40V tv tuner to my system consisting of a CDX-C90,
4000x and CDX-805.
The XT-40v was installed in the unilink bus between the changer and the
4000x. Everything works fine except one thing-
The LIST function. It seems that its backwards. Heres my dilema:
I wish to hide my c90 from view and only use its remote, along with the GUI
generated by the 40V and an in-dash LCD screen.
With my c90 connected, and a cd from the changer playing, the 40v displays
the list of all 10 discs in the changer. When I push LIST, the c90 faceplate
screen displays the list, but the 40v output screen switches from the list
to the display with the "spinning disc" graphic, plus the CD#, track # and
track time. The output of the 40v is reversed from what the c90 displays on
its screen. To me this seems backwards.
Does anyone else here have this same configuration???? Im wondering if this
is supposed to function this way, or is it a problem with the c90.
For comparison sake, I tested the c90 without the 4000x in the loop and the
same results were obtained. Also, I have an older XR-U800 deck laying
around (from the same era as the 40v) and hooked it up to test. The XR-U800
is the older style, and does not have a source or sound or list buttons, but
rather a "file" button that calls up the list on the 40v's output. With this
desk it works the right way.
I also tested this with a CDX-C7850, a ES deck that is a few years old, with
a source, list and sound button. It also was able to control the 40v, and it
also worked correctly. (when playing a cd from the changer, the 40v displays
the CD#, Track # and Track time, and so does the C7850's screen. When
pushing LIST, the 40v displays the LIST of the 10 CD's in the changer.
Thanks,
Mark W
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| Subject: | RE: alternative SQ affordable amps for tweet and mid |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <jbanderson69@hotmail.com>
Scott,
thanks for the feedback on the A/D/S amps. does anyone else have a
recommendation for either a four channel or 2 x two channel amps that could
replace my current 4x50 model?
regards,
John
Time: 07:52:33 AM PST US
From: "John Anderson" <jbanderson69@hotmail.com>
Subject: XDP4000X-List: re: ppi art amps for tweet and mid
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "John Anderson"
<jbanderson69@hotmail.com>
List members,
have any of you used an PPI art amp in your installs? I am looking for an
alternative to the Brax X1400 i am using in my system for tweets and mids
w/out a serious loss in SQ, and someone mentioned the PPI Art series as a
good alternative. I know that you can get good deals on these units on Ebay,
but I would really like some feedback from someone who has heard one.
I also have been told that the ADS PQ20 and PS5 would be pretty good and
that Harman Kardon, Adcom, Simfoni and Genesis as well as the early Xtants
are good choices too.
Does anyone have specific model recommendations to look for? my amp rack
space is about 9.25" wide and about 20" long. I would need 4 channels of
amplification for a dyn 340 system tweet and mid-dome woof. I wanted to use
the X1400 in another car b/c it is a bit overkill for the tweets and mid
power-wise, but I don't want to lose a ton of SQ and I know that SQ is
pretty important when it comes to tweets. I will keep the X2400 for use on
the woofer and sub and hopefully the XDP4k would not have any problems w/the
change in amp(s).
regards,
John
_______________________________ Message 3
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Time: 09:02:25 AM PST US
From: Scott Walters <scott@packetpushers.com>
Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: re: ppi art amps for tweet and mid
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Scott Walters <scott@packetpushers.com>
On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, John Anderson wrote:
> I also have been told that the ADS PQ20 and PS5 would be pretty good and
>
> space is about 9.25" wide and about 20" long. I would need 4 channels of
> amplification for a dyn 340 system tweet and mid-dome woof. I wanted to
use
I am currently using the PQ15 and PQ20 for my dyn 340's. 4000 high pass
to PQ15 bridged (2x80) to the dyn 360a xover to the tweet/mid, and 4000
low pass to the PQ20 bridged (2x160) to the dyn woofers.
I've done the tri amplification to the dyns and there is more 'detail' but
coherency is lost in the tweet/mid. Plus I've popped my tweeters adjusting
gain (apparently the dyn tweets are sensitive to this without an impedance
cap/crossover)
I don't like the PQ20 bridged to the woofers. Seems at higher volumes
they can 'lose control of the woofer' and I get pops. At one point I ran
the lowpass from the 4000 into my JL amp and then highpassed 40-45Hz, and
it got rid of the pops, but the line output of the JL can't touch the 4000
and I lost the umph. I've also tried 2x80, but the Dyn woofers need more
to sing . . . .
The ADS amps are great value SQ, but I don't think they shine when they
are bridged. But since you are tri-amping you won't have that problem. The
PQ20 might be more overkill though for the tweet/mid, but given the price
(I got mine for 225 ebay), i doubt you'll stay up at night . . .
I am looking to go brax/zapco 4 channel . . .
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| Subject: | Re: RE: alternative SQ affordable amps for tweet and mid |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: NOTGSXR@aol.com
In a message dated 4/8/04 3:37:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jbanderson69@hotmail.com writes:
Scott,
thanks for the feedback on the A/D/S amps. does anyone else have a
recommendation for either a four channel or 2 x two channel amps that could
replace my current 4x50 model?
regards,
John
Honestly, to me the A/D/S PQ 20 is one of the best amps you can get hands
down...... I have 2 that i refuse to sell........ one is in my car now, the other
on the shelf.. I have owned aprobably 12 A/D/S amps..... 3 PH 15's, 3 PQ
20's, A P640.2, a P650, a P2110, 2 P4100's, a PQ 10....... and i think thats
it....... and the PQ 20's are among my favorites...... the newer series P650's
absolutely suck....... IMHO, After using it for a month, i went back to a PH 15
that i've had for over 10 years..... now i will be using 2 P 4100's and a JBL
BPx 2200.1 :)
I am selling the P2110 and a PPI PC2600 (chrome) though..........
Dan
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