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1. 04:51 AM - Re: Re: Any C90 + XT40v users? (Drem Z)
2. 07:03 AM - Re: Re: alternative SQ affordable amps for tweet and (Scott Walters)
3. 03:15 PM - Re: Re: alternative SQ affordable amps for tweet and mid (NOTGSXR@aol.com)
4. 03:53 PM - Re: Re: alternative SQ affordable amps for tweet and mid (JSujo@aol.com)
5. 11:08 PM - Re: Re: Any C90 + XT40v users? (Roland M)
6. 11:17 PM - Re: Any C90 + XT40v users? (Roland M)
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| Subject: | RE: Any C90 + XT40v users? |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Drem Z" <dremgragen@hotmail.com>
I have a C90, 4kX, and XT40V in my setup with a PS2 and mine is very buggy.
The list function while playing a CD in the C90 only displays CDTEXT on the C90
screen, not my LCD.
My the audio source select doesn't work correctly. When I press my Source button
to move to Auxilary, the sound from my PS2 doesn't work. Then when Ichange the
audio source(while watching auxilary video) to CD for dual-source, it pulls
audio from the CD Changer input (I don't have a CD Changer), so NOW I get my
audio from my PS2 -because I input the audio output from PS2 into the changer
input. Then when I press Source again to move back to the Auxilary sound, the
PS2 sound works, still, on the CD Changer input (on the 4kX). I have to bypass
the XT40V for audio because it adds terrible hiss and signal loss to the stream;
it is incredibly bad. I'm wondering if I was sold a maintenence-needy XT40V...
:/ I HATE having to have my remote with me to listen to my auxilary sound
(by having to change the audio source a few times to get the signal), because
my tiny Civic honestly doesn't have anywhere to set the remote while not in use
.
-Brody
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From: "Woudsma, Mark" Mark.Woudsma@am.sony.com
Subject: XDP4000X-List: RE: Any C90 + XT40v users?
-- XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Woudsma, Mark" Mark.Woudsma@am.sony.com
Hello 4000x'ers,
Recently I added an XT-40V tv tuner to my system consisting of a CDX-C90,
4000x and CDX-805.
The XT-40v was installed in the unilink bus between the changer and the
4000x. Everything works fine except one thing-
The LIST function. It seems that its backwards. Heres my dilema:
I wish to hide my c90 from view and only use its remote, along with the GUI
generated by the 40V and an in-dash LCD screen.
With my c90 connected, and a cd from the changer playing, the 40v displays
the list of all 10 discs in the changer. When I push LIST, the c90 faceplate
screen displays the list, but the 40v output screen switches from the list
to the display with the "spinning disc" graphic, plus the CD#, track # and
track time. The output of the 40v is reversed from what the c90 displays on
its screen. To me this seems backwards.
Does anyone else here have this same configuration???? Im wondering if this
is supposed to function this way, or is it a problem with the c90.
For comparison sake, I tested the c90 without the 4000x in the loop and the
same results were obtained. Also, I have an older XR-U800 decklaying
around (from the same era as the 40v) and hooked it up to test. The XR-U800
is the older style, and does not have a source or sound or list buttons, but
rather a "file" button that calls up the list on the 40v's output. With this
desk it works the right way.
I also tested this with a CDX-C7850, a ES deck that is a few years old, with
a source, list and sound button. It also was able to control the 40v, and it
also worked correctly. (when playing a cd from the changer, the 40v displays
the CD#, Track # and Track time, and so does the C7850's screen.When
pushing LIST, the 40v displays the LIST of the 10 CD's in the changer.
Thanks,
Mark W
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| Subject: | Re: RE: alternative SQ affordable amps for tweet and |
mid
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Scott Walters <scott@packetpushers.com>
On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 NOTGSXR@aol.com wrote:
> Honestly, to me the A/D/S PQ 20 is one of the best amps you can get hands
> down......
do you run it bridged?
what are you driving with it?
--
Scott Walters
-PacketPusher
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| Subject: | Re: RE: alternative SQ affordable amps for tweet and mid |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: NOTGSXR@aol.com
In a message dated 4/9/04 10:03:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
scott@packetpushers.com writes:
On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 NOTGSXR@aol.com wrote:
> Honestly, to me the A/D/S PQ 20 is one of the best amps you can get hands
> down......
do you run it bridged?
what are you driving with it?
I didn't run it bridged..... Last i used it for a pair of Focal TN-51 tweets
and a pair of Focal 4k 3202 mids........ never ran into any trouble or was
never dissatisfied with it......
Dan
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| Subject: | Re: RE: alternative SQ affordable amps for tweet and mid |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: JSujo@aol.com
try to find some ADCOM amps,,,very very good sound.
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| Subject: | RE: Any C90 + XT40v users? |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>From: "Drem Z" <dremgragen@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
>To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: RE: Any C90 + XT40v users?
>Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 11:51:24 +0000
>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Drem Z" <dremgragen@hotmail.com>
>
>
>I have a C90, 4kX, and XT40V in my setup with a PS2 and mine is very buggy.
>
>
>The list function while playing a CD in the C90 only displays CDTEXT on the
>C90 screen, not my LCD.
>
Well that's an easy one. The 40V isn't capable of displaying CD-TEXT. It
is capable of displaying only CustomFile and MD Text information. It may
just be the C90 but I'm pretty sure the 40V cannot do CD-TEXT. The only
difference betweent the U400V and the 40V was the ability to display MD-Text
(the older U400V and U500V could not).
>
>My the audio source select doesn't work correctly. When I press my Source
>button to move to Auxilary, the sound from my PS2 doesn't work. Then when
>Ichange the audio source(while watching auxilary video) to CD for
>dual-source, it pulls audio from the CD Changer input (I don't have a CD
>Changer), so NOW I get my audio from my PS2 -because I input the audio
>output from PS2 into the changer input. Then when I press Source again to
>move back to the Auxilary sound, the PS2 sound works, still, on the CD
>Changer input (on the 4kX). I have to bypass the XT40V for audio because it
>adds terrible hiss and signal loss to the stream; it is incredibly bad. I'm
>wondering if I was sold a maintenence-needy XT40V... :/ I HATE having to
>have my remote with me to listen to my auxilary sound (by having to change
>the audio source a few times to get the signal), because my tiny Civic
>honestly doesn't have anywhere to set the remote while not in use
> .
You are talking about the AUX input on the 40V, correct? And not on an
XA-107 or XA-300? In that case it sounds to me like the AUX input is
working correctly. There should be analog RCAs going from the TV tuner to
the XDPs SLAVE analog input. But wouldn't you have to have it setup that
way to get audio from the TV tuner? Maybe I'm misunderstanding something?
Do you mean that when you have analog RCAs connected from the TV tuners
output to the XDP's Slave input you get no audio when inputting something to
the AUX input on the TV tuner? If that is the case then yes it isn't
working correctly.
As for the hiss/signal loss, I'm thinking you might have some sort of a
ground loop issue between the TV tuner and the PS2. This often occurs when
you use inverters (probably how you're powering the PS2?). Why it doesn't
happen with the XDP but does happen with the TV tuner, well that's as
mysterious as why you get ground loops in the first place, lol. Perhaps
your TV tuner has a defect though, I'm not sure. Because if you did have a
TV tuner and an analog CD changer and you needed to get audio from the TV
tuner, the changer would have to go through the TV tuner no matter what.
(Unless you had a source selector and wired it "downstream" of the TV tuner
instead of using the 40Vs UniLink "pass-thru" and/or wiring the MCA before
the tuner.)
Roland M.
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| Subject: | Any C90 + XT40v users? |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Woudsma, Mark"
><Mark.Woudsma@am.sony.com>
>
>
>The LIST function. It seems that its backwards. Heres my dilema:
>
>I wish to hide my c90 from view and only use its remote, along with the GUI
>generated by the 40V and an in-dash LCD screen.
>
>With my c90 connected, and a cd from the changer playing, the 40v displays
>the list of all 10 discs in the changer. When I push LIST, the c90
>faceplate
>screen displays the list, but the 40v output screen then displays the
>"spinning disc" graphic, plus the CD#, track # and track time. The output
>of
>the 40v is reversed from what the c90 displays on its screen. To me this
>seems backwards.
>
>Does anyone else here have this same configuration???? Im wondering if this
>is supposed to function this way, or is it a problem with the c90.
>
>I also tested this with a CDX-C7850, a ES deck that is a few years old,
>with
>a source, list and sound button. It also was able to control the 40v, and
>it
>also worked correctly. (when playing a cd from the changer, the 40v
>displays
>the CD#, Track # and Track time, and so does the C7850's screen. When
>pushing LIST, the 40v displays the LIST of the 10 CD's in the changer.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark W
Funny that you say it works backwards, because personally I wish it worked
that way with all units! LOL!
Your TV tuner is functioning correctly... Apparently that is how the C90
and TV tuner work together. And yes it is opposite to pretty much every
other unit with TV Control.
I was kind of upset that if the TV tuner is connected and you press LIST you
don't get anything on the display of the HU--it ONLY goes to the monitor(s).
On the C90 the LIST function remains on the C90 but doesn't go the
monitor(s). Really I don't understand why Sony didn't make it go on BOTH.
It makes a lot more sense like that.
I've tried it with both my C7850 and [XR-]C9100 and both do the same
thing--LIST on the TV tuner but nothing on the HU :(
Anyway it seems to be a C90 only thing because the C7850 is actually a year
or two newer than the C90 (eventhough the C7850 difffers only slightly fromt
the C780 which was the same year as the C90 I believe). I don't know how
the (few) Xplod units that have TV Control handle the tuner but I think it
is just like every other unit.
This is one of the few things I found counter-intuitive about UniLink. Why
Sony didn't let you have LIST-up on both the HU and the monitor is beyond
me. Just doesn't make sense, especially since in some locales (actually
probably most) you aren't [legally] allowed to have a video screen in sight
of the driver while the vehicle is in motion. So if you have any other unit
than a C90 and you have the TV tuner, and you can't see the screen(s) you
also can't what is in the changer via LIST-up :(
Roland M.
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