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1. 07:06 AM - Re: XM options? (Bobby Braun)
2. 09:16 AM - Re: XM options? (Matt Dralle)
3. 05:36 PM - Re: XDP-210EQ Relay on Remote problem... (Roland M)
4. 05:42 PM - Re: XM options? (Roland M)
5. 05:44 PM - Re: SQXPERT (Roland M)
6. 05:50 PM - Re: XM options? (Roland M)
7. 06:24 PM - Re: SQXPERT (Pete)
8. 08:54 PM - Re: SQXPERT (Roland M)
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Bobby Braun" <bobbybraun@comcast.net>
Hey, that's great! I looked into it a bit and it even looks like I'll have
no problem keeping my current changer in the car too, but will I be able to
keep my optical connection from the changer?
Since the XM tuner would be connected via analog rca cable, will the unilink
bus system be smart enough to differentiate which component uses optical,
and which is running analog?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: XM options?
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
>
> I assume you are referring to XM Radio? Sony has a Unilink XM Radio box
> called the XT-XM1 that works GREAT with the C90/4000x. You just plug it
> into the Unilink bus and it shows up like a MD Changer with 150 or so
> "discs", each one being a XM Radio station.
>
> There are a fair number XT-XM1's on EBay right now. Slick, clean
> installation. I've heard that Sony has discontinued them.
>
> That being said, about to come out (end of July) is a new version of the
XM
> Radio for the Unilink bus (I don't think its made by Sony). Its a little
> different in that there is the basic Radio for $99 then you have to buy
the
> correct "interface module" for it for another $50. They will have
> interface modules for Alpine and Sony. Check out www.crutchfield.com for
> details.
>
> Matt
>
> PS - I LOVE my XT-XM1 XM Radio receivers with my Sony C90. Awesome.
>
>
> At 11:00 PM 6/23/2004 Wednesday, you wrote:
> >--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Bobby Braun"
<bobbybraun@comcast.net>
> >
> >Ok, so are there any 100% compatible XM radio options for the c90/4000x
> >combo? If so great, what are they, if not, what are our other options and
> >their drawbacks, how well can it be integrated? I've been thinking of
maybe
> >taking a look at the XM offerings out there, but I'm nowhere near ready
to
> >rid myself of my 4000x...
> >
> >
>
>
> Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
> 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
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>
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Yup! Works great. Seems that the HU determines which input to use
(optical or line-level) at initialization and remembers it. Just plug it
all together, press the Reset button on the HU and you're good to go...
Matt
At 07:06 AM 6/24/2004 Thursday, you wrote:
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Bobby Braun" <bobbybraun@comcast.net>
>
>Hey, that's great! I looked into it a bit and it even looks like I'll have
>no problem keeping my current changer in the car too, but will I be able to
>keep my optical connection from the changer?
>
>Since the XM tuner would be connected via analog rca cable, will the unilink
>bus system be smart enough to differentiate which component uses optical,
>and which is running analog?
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com>
>To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: XM options?
>
>
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
> >
> > I assume you are referring to XM Radio? Sony has a Unilink XM Radio box
> > called the XT-XM1 that works GREAT with the C90/4000x. You just plug it
> > into the Unilink bus and it shows up like a MD Changer with 150 or so
> > "discs", each one being a XM Radio station.
> >
> > There are a fair number XT-XM1's on EBay right now. Slick, clean
> > installation. I've heard that Sony has discontinued them.
> >
> > That being said, about to come out (end of July) is a new version of the
>XM
> > Radio for the Unilink bus (I don't think its made by Sony). Its a little
> > different in that there is the basic Radio for $99 then you have to buy
>the
> > correct "interface module" for it for another $50. They will have
> > interface modules for Alpine and Sony. Check out www.crutchfield.com for
> > details.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > PS - I LOVE my XT-XM1 XM Radio receivers with my Sony C90. Awesome.
> >
> >
> > At 11:00 PM 6/23/2004 Wednesday, you wrote:
> > >--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Bobby Braun"
><bobbybraun@comcast.net>
> > >
> > >Ok, so are there any 100% compatible XM radio options for the c90/4000x
> > >combo? If so great, what are they, if not, what are our other options and
> > >their drawbacks, how well can it be integrated? I've been thinking of
>maybe
> > >taking a look at the XM offerings out there, but I'm nowhere near ready
>to
> > >rid myself of my 4000x...
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
> > 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
> > http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
> >
> >
>
>
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
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| Subject: | XDP-210EQ Relay on Remote problem... |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>From: "Colin (DP Motorsport)" <colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
>Reply-To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
>To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: XDP-210EQ Relay on Remote problem...
>Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 17:44:30 +0100
>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Colin (DP Motorsport)"
><colin@dp-motorsport.co.uk>
>
>I'd imagine from what your saying there is something wrong with the
>relay.
>
>Does the light come on in the 210 when there is no live connceted to the
>relay?
>
Yeah your first thought was my first as well, so I tried another
relay--unfortunately the result was the same :(
The power light comes on, on the 210EQ as soon as you connect one side of
the coil to the remote output on the 210EQ and the other side of the coil to
ground. (Coil pins are 85 and 86, it doesn't matter if I reverse the sides
connected to remote and ground either.)
If you remove the ground from the other side of the coil the light goes out;
or if you remove the remote from the other side the light goes out as well.
And yes the HU is off, the ignition is off, so it isn't that. I don't get
it really... It doesn't happen when directly connected to the amps but it
does once a relay coil is connected to it. It's like the light comes on to
tell you you've wired something wrong, like an error message.
I don't understand what could be wrong with connecting the (dead-when-off)
remote terminal to one side and ground to the other side. When the remote
powers up to 12V when the system is on it should activate the coil and
therefore make 87 continuous with 30. And there shouldn't be any side
effects. I wonder if the remote terminal is really going to ground or 0V
when the XDP turns off? I didn't try to measure the voltage but that's a
thought. Though I still don't see why/how the power light would come on in
connecting it across a relay coil...
Roland M.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roland M
>To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
>Subject: XDP4000X-List: XDP-210EQ Relay on Remote problem...
>
>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>
>Recently I was doing some rewiring in my car, replacing my old alarm
>with a
>new one and doing a few other things since the weather is nice now :)
>
>Anyway I was always running my remote from my head unit using a relay on
>the
>remote wire since I'm running two amplifiers and an active electronic
>crossover (for bi-amping my components) and I thought using the relay is
>
>just cheap insurance plus it allows me to add other amps without any
>worry.
>
>Well I decided to do away with the wire going from the HU to the back
>and
>simply run the remote from the XDP unit's remote terminal. Again I
>decided
>that a relay would be a good idea on the remote line, just-in-case.
>But I
>had something very strange occur when I tried to use the relay on the
>XDP's
>remote terminal.
>
>Connecting one side of the coil to ground and the other side to the
>remote
>terminal would instantly cause the green POWER indicator light on the
>XDP to
>come on, and stay on, at about half its normal brightness. It's as if
>it
>were giving me a "signal" that I wired something incorrectly. Removing
>the
>relay and simply connecting the remote wire directly did not cause this.
>
>I find this to be very strange behaviour since I don't think there is
>any
>reason to be doing this. I even tried using a diode across the coil of
>the
>relay as is sometimes required but it still did the same thing, the
>light on
>the XDP comes on.
>
>Has anyone else encountered this on either a 210EQ or a 4000X or know
>what's
>going on (or what I'm doing wrong)? It seems to be holding up without
>the
>relay as of right now but with a 300mA limit on the remote output on the
>XDP
>I'm guessing if I add anything else I'm going to have to go off the HU's
>
>remote line, to be safe?
>
>For reference, all I'm doing is connecting a regular SPDT relay with one
>
>side of the coil (85) to the remote terminal on the XDP, the other side
>(86)
>to ground, the output pin (30) to the amps&xover, and finally pin (87)
>to
>+12V. It doesn't matter if I wire the whole thing up or not; as soon as
>
>+I
>connect one side of the coil to ground and the other side to the remote
>terminal the power light turns on...
>
>Roland M.
>
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>
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Bobby Braun" <bobbybraun@comcast.net>
>
>Since the XM tuner would be connected via analog rca cable, will the
>unilink
>bus system be smart enough to differentiate which component uses optical,
>and which is running analog?
>
>
Yep, it certainly is! :) The UniLink bus determines whether to use the
digital or analog input(s) by the "output mode" state the changer or HU is
set to. For a unit with digital output it is determined by the changing of
the switch on the unit from Analog to Digital (on the C90 the "switch" is a
software one, in the menu). On changers and HUs and other devices that have
only analog output the "output mode" is permanently set to Analog.
Roland M.
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: NOTGSXR@aol.com
>
>
>In a message dated 6/22/04 6:23:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>dabrow@orange.net writes:
>
>Hi all,
>
>I have been trying to contact sqxpert on the list because I bought an
>xdp-4000x from him. It was advertised on this list ages back.
>
>Does anyone know him or have any contact details as I can't get hold of
>him at the moment (believe me, I have tried).
>
>Thanks guys,
>
>Pete
>
>
Hopefully you at least *received* the 4000X (if it was paid for)??? Or is
it an after-sale issue or just that he never got around to selling it to
you?
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
>
>There are a fair number XT-XM1's on EBay right now. Slick, clean
>installation. I've heard that Sony has discontinued them.
>
>That being said, about to come out (end of July) is a new version of the XM
>Radio for the Unilink bus (I don't think its made by Sony).
>
>Matt
>
Interesting that Sony has discontinued the XM1 tuner... Because aren't they
still touting "XM Ready" on their latest HU offerings??? How exactly are
they supposed to be "ready" to use an XM tuner, if a compatible one is not
available?!?!
Kinda nifty that a 3rd party company is making one, and with interfaces for
different brands; but really should Sony actually have an XM tuner for sale
if they say their HUs are "XM Ready"? Or do the new HUs no longer state
they are "XM Ready"?
Does the 3rd party tuner have a UniLink pass-through on its interface? (I
believe the XM1 does, correct?) If not that will mean using an MCA if you
also want to use a changer with it... Not a big deal if you're already
using one with a port free but if you just have one changer and want to add
XM the pass-through becomes an important feature.
Roland M.
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Pete <dabrow@orange.net>
He (sqxpert, Tim) allegedly sent the xdp-4k to me twice, however both
times it never arrived, each time he claimed it was returned to sender
(him). We then arranged for it to be delivered within the USA (I am in
the UK) to another member of this list, he has also received things for
me before. Tim (sqxpert) said he posted it but never forwarded a
tracking number. It has not been received to this day and now he is not
replying. I requested it to be insured within the US to save any
problems.
It has been going on since Christmas! I wondered if anyone knew him
because he seamed an okay guy.
Pete
RE:
Hopefully you at least *received* the 4000X (if it was paid for)??? Or
is
it an after-sale issue or just that he never got around to selling it to
you?
---
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Pete <dabrow@orange.net>
>
>He (sqxpert, Tim) allegedly sent the xdp-4k to me twice, however both
>times it never arrived, each time he claimed it was returned to sender
>(him). We then arranged for it to be delivered within the USA (I am in
>the UK) to another member of this list, he has also received things for
>me before. Tim (sqxpert) said he posted it but never forwarded a
>tracking number. It has not been received to this day and now he is not
>replying. I requested it to be insured within the US to save any
>problems.
>
>It has been going on since Christmas! I wondered if anyone knew him
>because he seamed an okay guy.
>
>Pete
>
I hate to say it but if this has been going on since December and at this
point he is no longer in contact with you, it sounds like he is a scammer :(
I don't want to give a bad name to the guy right away but from the sounds
of it, it is very likely that he is a scam artist, especially if he already
has your cash.
It really sucks when people do this, particularly if they come on here and
make the list look bad as well. Do you have his name and address? Also how
did you pay for it? (I hope you didn't lose too much money... ) If you you
paid via an electronic service you can try to go through any fraud
prevention stuff they have to offer and see if that does anything in the way
of getting your money back, assuming you sent money that is. (Unfortunately
many times it does not help, but you never know until you check it out.)
If you sent the money via a money order and it was handled by the USPS
(United States Postal Service--i.e. "regular" mail in the US) then you can
(and should) file a Mail Fraud report with the appropriate section of US
government--you can find out about it on www.usps.com I'm sure.
If you didn't send any money yet just consider yourself lucky and forget
about it; but I doubt you'd really be trying to track him down if you didn't
send any money.
If you have his name and address I would post it here and in the classified
feedback sections of other car audio websites, along with any
aliases/screennames he has used like "SQXPERT". Someone may know him or may
have been scammed by him before--scam artists almost never "only do it
once", it is usually an ongoing thing with such ppl. While it may not
necessarily get you anything recovered, informing other ppl of a guy like
this could at least save someone else from the same fate from the same
scammer.
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