---------------------------------------------------------- XDP4000X-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 08/16/04: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:45 AM - Re: Midbass drivers and general questions. (Randy Visentine) 2. 06:33 AM - Bye bye C90/4000X (Mr. Z) 3. 12:01 PM - Re: Bye bye C90/4000X (Randy Visentine) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:45:10 AM PST US From: Randy Visentine Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Midbass drivers and general questions. --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Randy Visentine Hey Dan! I still have not completed my door panels for the Vifa 8.75" mid-bass. I am going to experiment with those B&G Planars (what a coincidence) - but try the Neo 8 PDR as a mid/tweet. I'm going to try and squeeze 500Hz out of them, and let them run all the way out to 20K. Considering the close proximity and good sensitivity, I think they might handle it. I'm going to try and fit them in the A-Pillars - as low as they will sit. Running those Vifa 8.75"s to 500Hz or so should not be an issue, as they are used as a true "woofer" in the 2-Way reference monitor they were designed for. I'm just worried about still having a sizable span from the Woofer at 500Hz in the door, to the mid/tweet about 2' or so away on the a-pillar. I may just do a small 4" cone mid down to 250Hz, and do a bi-amped 2-way 4"+1" pod on each a-pillar. I'll have to experiment, and see. That's the fun part IMO. IF you can track down those Vifa's, the model # on the driver is:490-001-00 ("703"?). A nice 4 Ohm driver FWIW. Enjoy, all... Randy V. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:33:44 AM PST US From: "Mr. Z" Subject: XDP4000X-List: Bye bye C90/4000X --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Mr. Z" So after having the Clarion DRZ9255 in my car for almost a month (two+ years of 4000X, two weeks of A/B with the 9255, and 1 week of exclusively 9255), I've concluded that the new 9255 is better than the 4000X. The main differences are: The Clarion has better high frequency reproduction. The 4000X sounds dark and less defined in the 10kHz+ range in comparison. The decay is faster with the Clarion which is either bad or good depending on listener preference. I like the slower decay myself, but my friend loved the faster. She said, "It makes the instruments feel more separate, making it easier to pinpoint their location." I kinda see her point, but still prefer the slower decay. After removing the 4000X and just having the 9255 I've decided it's not a big enough deal for me to continue complaining about; it sounds damn fine regardless. The Clarion saves space. The Clarion can be read during the day unlike the C90. The Clarion looks and feels sexier to use (completely subjective one there :) ). 9255 = the new hotness 4000X = oldie but goodie It's been fun, but I'm saying goodbye to my 4000X. -Brody Z. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:01:46 PM PST US From: Randy Visentine Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Bye bye C90/4000X --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Randy Visentine Brody, Can you give your opinions on the EQ and Crossover functionality/sound? What are its limitations? What about the user interface - easy to navigate? No PC/Laptop requiremants must be a plus. I think I know what you mean with the "darker" sound of the Sony - I think of it as more of a "Smothness with detail" that is really hard to acheive without being harsh. I still have not heard a HU that touches the XDP4K on the "relaxed detail" of the highs. This clarion may be the one to do it, though. I know others have even said the Alpine F-1 setup is not as nice on the treble as the XDP4K (I'm not suprised). From "Bright" to "Harsh" is not a big stretch (Alpine), but "Smooth" will always be "Smooth" (XDP). Let us know on the Crossover and EQ... Randy V.