---------------------------------------------------------- XDP4000X-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 12/27/04: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:02 AM - Re: where to put? (justinjbaron@comcast.net) 2. 05:25 AM - Re: where to put? (christopher sphon) 3. 10:27 AM - Re: where to put? (Roland M) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:02:34 AM PST US From: justinjbaron@comcast.net Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: where to put? --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: justinjbaron@comcast.net I've heard that Alpine AI-Net cables use the same pinout as the Unilink cables - you would want to test before buying, but the Alpine cables might be cheaper and more readily available... -------------- Original message -------------- > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Tony Antoniou" > > You can extend any kind of electrical cable if: > > a) It's done very neatly > b) You use same quality cable in between. This isn't just an exercise in > soldering some spare 24AWG hobby wire 3#-) > > I've had the liberty of splicing 100pair Belden shielded cables at the > Olympics in Athens and it was not fun, but not impossible either and the > audio carried on it was still good for all audio. You won't need to worry > about any balancing transformers for the task either. That's more to do with > matching up mismatched impedances between the equipment at both ends than > the actual cable, at least over a short run like that anyway. In this case, > both the DSP and the head unit are designed with the same impedances anyway > so there's no problem. > > Adios, > Tony > > --------------- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums --------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of christopher > sphon > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: where to put? > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: christopher sphon > > i didnt know you could extend it, i figured it had > some kind of shield in it. ill have to try that, i als > have the soundstream balanced line transmitters with > short cables to try it on. cool > > > I've heard that Alpine AI-Net cables use the same pinout as the Unilink cables - you would want to test before buying, but the Alpine cables might be cheaper and more readily available... -------------- Original message -------------- -- XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Tony Antoniou" You can extend any kind of electrical cable if: a) It's done very neatly b) You use same quality cable in between. This isn't just an exercise in soldering some spare 24AWG hobby wire 3#-) I've had the liberty of splicing 100pair Belden shielded cables at the Olympics in Athens and it was not fun, but not impossible either and the audio carried on it was still good for all audio. You won't need to worry about any balancing transformers for the task either. That's more to do with matching up mismatched impedances between the equipment at both ends than the actual cable, at least over a short run like that anyway. In this case, bot h the DSP and the head unit are designed with the same impedances anyway so there's no problem. Adios, Tony --------------- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums --------------- -----Original Message----- From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of christopher sphon To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: where to put? -- XDP4000X-List message posted by: christopher sphon i didnt know you could extend it, i figured it had some kind of shield in it. ill have to try that, i als have the soundstream balanced line transmitters with short cables to try it on. cool sored by Matronics. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:25:39 AM PST US From: christopher sphon Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: where to put? --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: christopher sphon http://www.crutchfield.com/S-HG0mJQdLY2c/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?s=0&cc=01&g=57900&id=morephotos&pi=1&i=500KWA200B&display=L#Tab looks the same, check out the above link --- justinjbaron@comcast.net wrote: > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: > justinjbaron@comcast.net > > I've heard that Alpine AI-Net cables use the same > pinout as the Unilink cables - you would want to > test before buying, but the Alpine cables might be > cheaper and more readily available... > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Tony > Antoniou" > > > > You can extend any kind of electrical cable if: > > > > a) It's done very neatly > > b) You use same quality cable in between. This > isn't just an exercise in > > soldering some spare 24AWG hobby wire 3#-) > > > > I've had the liberty of splicing 100pair Belden > shielded cables at the > > Olympics in Athens and it was not fun, but not > impossible either and the > > audio carried on it was still good for all audio. > You won't need to worry > > about any balancing transformers for the task > either. That's more to do with > > matching up mismatched impedances between the > equipment at both ends than > > the actual cable, at least over a short run like > that anyway. In this case, > > both the DSP and the head unit are designed with > the same impedances anyway > > so there's no problem. > > > > Adios, > > Tony > > > > --------------- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums > --------------- > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com] > On Behalf Of christopher > > sphon > > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: where to put? > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: christopher > sphon > > > > i didnt know you could extend it, i figured it had > > > some kind of shield in it. ill have to try that, i > als > > have the soundstream balanced line transmitters > with > > short cables to try it on. cool > > > > > > > > I've heard that Alpine AI-Net cables use the same > pinout as the Unilink cables - you would want to > test before buying, but the Alpine cables might be > cheaper and more readily available... > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > -- XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Tony Antoniou" > > > You can extend any kind of electrical cable if: > > a) It's done very neatly > b) You use same quality cable in between. This > isn't just an exercise in > soldering some spare 24AWG hobby wire 3#-) > > I've had the liberty of splicing 100pair Belden > shielded cables at the > Olympics in Athens and it was not fun, but not > impossible either and the > audio carried on it was still good for all audio. > You won't need to worry > about any balancing transformers for the task > either. That's more to do with > matching up mismatched impedances between the > equipment at both ends than > the actual cable, at least over a short run like > that anyway. In this case, > bot > h the DSP and the head unit are designed with the > same impedances anyway > so there's no problem. > > Adios, > Tony > > --------------- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums > --------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com] > On Behalf Of christopher > sphon > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: where to put? > > -- XDP4000X-List message posted by: christopher > sphon > > i didnt know you could extend it, i figured it had > some kind of shield in it. ill have to try that, i > als > have the soundstream balanced line transmitters > with > short cables to try it on. cool > > > sored by Matronics. > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > > > __________________________________ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:27:46 AM PST US From: "Roland M" Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: where to put? --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" >From: justinjbaron@comcast.net >Reply-To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com >To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com, >Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: where to put? >Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 13:01:25 +0000 > >--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: justinjbaron@comcast.net > >I've heard that Alpine AI-Net cables use the same pinout as the Unilink >cables - you would want to test before buying, but the Alpine cables might >be cheaper and more readily available... > > Yeah they use the same connectors and same straigh-thru cable wiring, with no resistance--they should work fine (I use on in my system with no problems); also JVC J-Link cables are also the same... Roland M. >-------------- Original message -------------- > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Tony Antoniou" > > > > You can extend any kind of electrical cable if: > > > > a) It's done very neatly > > b) You use same quality cable in between. This isn't just an exercise in > > soldering some spare 24AWG hobby wire 3#-) > > > > I've had the liberty of splicing 100pair Belden shielded cables at the > > Olympics in Athens and it was not fun, but not impossible either and the > > audio carried on it was still good for all audio. You won't need to >worry > > about any balancing transformers for the task either. That's more to do >with > > matching up mismatched impedances between the equipment at both ends >than > > the actual cable, at least over a short run like that anyway. In this >case, > > both the DSP and the head unit are designed with the same impedances >anyway > > so there's no problem. > > > > Adios, > > Tony > > > > --------------- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums --------------- > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >christopher > > sphon > > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: where to put? > > > > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: christopher sphon > > > > i didnt know you could extend it, i figured it had > > some kind of shield in it. ill have to try that, i als > > have the soundstream balanced line transmitters with > > short cables to try it on. cool > > > > > > > >I've heard that Alpine AI-Net cables use the same pinout as the Unilink >cables - you would want to test before buying, but the Alpine cables might >be cheaper and more readily available... > > >-------------- Original message -------------- > > -- XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Tony Antoniou" > > > You can extend any kind of electrical cable if: > > a) It's done very neatly > b) You use same quality cable in between. This isn't just an exercise in > soldering some spare 24AWG hobby wire 3#-) > > I've had the liberty of splicing 100pair Belden shielded cables at the > Olympics in Athens and it was not fun, but not impossible either and the > audio carried on it was still good for all audio. You won't need to worry > about any balancing transformers for the task either. That's more to do >with > matching up mismatched impedances between the equipment at both ends than > the actual cable, at least over a short run like that anyway. In this >case, > bot > h the DSP and the head unit are designed with the same impedances anyway > so there's no problem. > > Adios, > Tony > > --------------- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums --------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >christopher > sphon > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: where to put? > > -- XDP4000X-List message posted by: christopher sphon > > > i didnt know you could extend it, i figured it had > some kind of shield in it. ill have to try that, i als > have the soundstream balanced line transmitters with > short cables to try it on. cool > > > sored by Matronics. > >