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1. 12:36 AM - Re: Re: what is the hard drive that connects to the xdp4k? c90? (Tony Antoniou)
2. 01:42 PM - Re: Re: what is the hard drive that connects to the xdp4k? c90? (Roland M)
3. 01:57 PM - Rotary Encoder problem--possible correction? (Roland M)
4. 03:13 PM - Re: Re: what is the hard drive that connects to the xdp4k? c90? (Tony Antoniou)
5. 03:34 PM - Re: Rotary Encoder problem--possible correction? (Tony Antoniou)
6. 08:24 PM - Re: Rotary Encoder problem--possible correction? (NOTGSXR@aol.com)
7. 09:34 PM - Re: Re: what is the hard drive that connects to (Matt Dralle)
8. 09:58 PM - Re: Re: what is the hard drive that connects to the xdp4k? c90? (Tony Antoniou)
9. 10:44 PM - Re: Re: what is the hard drive that connects to (Matt Dralle)
10. 11:51 PM - Re: Re: what is the hard drive that connects to the xdp4k? c90? (Randy Visentine)
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| Subject: | RE: what is the hard drive that connects to the xdp4k? |
c90?
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Tony Antoniou" <larz@s054.aone.net.au>
Not a bad price either at $799. The only thing is, I don't see my MDX-C8900
MD unit listed in their compatibility list. We'll wait and see what they
tell me in response to my email query.
Otherwise, buttloads of FLACs (screw AAC/WMA/MP3's) to compliment my MD
collection will be mighty cool. Just gotta work out where in the boot/trunk
I'll be mounting it.
Thanks Matt!! Your list has proven to be very valuable (wouldn't have found
my XDP-210EQ if it weren't for that!) and is continuing to be so. Keep it up
dude!
Adios,
Tony
--------------- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums ---------------
John,
Were you looking for the Phatbox? Its a harddisk-based MP3 player that has
a Sony Unilink direct interface. I have two - one in the car, another in
the truck - and really love it!
Here is the URL:
http://www.phatnoise.com/products/digitalmediaplayers/index.php
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
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| Subject: | RE: what is the hard drive that connects to the xdp4k? |
c90?
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Tony Antoniou"
><larz@s054.aone.net.au>
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>Not a bad price either at $799. The only thing is, I don't see my MDX-C8900
>MD unit listed in their compatibility list. We'll wait and see what they
>tell me in response to my email query.
>
>Adios,
>Tony
>
I don't see any reason the MDX-C8900 *couldn't* be used to control the
device as it has the same UniLink control features as the C90 (CD/MD
Changer/DSP/TV Controls)...
Roland M.
PS: I can't get the site www.phatnoise.com to work at all... Anyone else
have the same problem?
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| Subject: | Rotary Encoder problem--possible correction? |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
I noticed a few ppl on the list have had previous problems with the rotary
encoder on the units of the late 90's that used the click type encoder
(usually with the source button in the middle and the swing shuttle track
control thingy around it)... This includes the C90 as well as many other
units (CDX-C680/C780/C880/C6850/C7850/C8850 are some examples, there are
others).
On rare occasion I would get the same thing as other ppl have complained
of--"gaps" in operation when turning (as in volume/setting doesn't
continually go up/down smoothly); and the worse situation of the rotary
starting to interpret backwards randomly (as in the volume goes UP when you
spin the encoder DOWN).
Recently the control on my CDX-C7850 had the unfortunate occurence of having
the dreaded latter problem to an extreme degree--I had no reliable control
with the encoder (problem temporarily solved via remote or via the buttons
on the slaved MDX-400 in my system).
However it was indeed very annoying to get the remote or reach to the
MDX-400 which is lower on the dash...
So I dismantled the faceplate (as per service manual assembly
diagrams)--popped out the SOURCE button, removed the round dial/encoder;
removed faceplate screws and the swing shuttler and then opened up the face
plate. I poured rubbing alcohol in the encoder dial internals and turned
the dial in both directions so as to work in the alcohol... I immediately
re-assembled and brought it back in the car. Unfortunately this had pretty
much NOTHING on the faceplate working except the display! I guess the
alcohol had not dried yet...
So I returned inside and repeated the above but left it to dry overnight and
re-assembled everything in the morning... Took it back to the car and now
it works like a charm--the encoder problem completely went away, and
everything works fine again :)
Just something to try if your encoder goes bad/flakey on you--a good
cleaning with alcohol might just restore it like it did on mine.
Roland M.
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| Subject: | RE: what is the hard drive that connects to the xdp4k? |
c90?
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Tony Antoniou" <larz@s054.aone.net.au>
That's what I figured ... same protocol and all, just a model they probably
overlooked.
Adios,
Tony
--------------- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums ---------------
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roland M
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: RE: what is the hard drive that connects to the
xdp4k? c90?
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
I don't see any reason the MDX-C8900 *couldn't* be used to control the
device as it has the same UniLink control features as the C90 (CD/MD
Changer/DSP/TV Controls)...
Roland M.
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| Subject: | Rotary Encoder problem--possible correction? |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Tony Antoniou" <larz@s054.aone.net.au>
Rather than using alcohol, you should consider using a contact
cleaner/lubricant combination fluid as without it, your rotary encoder's
pads on the PCB will wear away sooner without it. That's what I did for my
MDX-C8900.
Adios,
Tony
--------------- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums ---------------
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roland M
Subject: XDP4000X-List: Rotary Encoder problem--possible correction?
So I returned inside and repeated the above but left it to dry overnight and
re-assembled everything in the morning... Took it back to the car and now
it works like a charm--the encoder problem completely went away, and
everything works fine again :)
Just something to try if your encoder goes bad/flakey on you--a good
cleaning with alcohol might just restore it like it did on mine.
Roland M.
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| Subject: | Re: Rotary Encoder problem--possible correction? |
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: NOTGSXR@aol.com
where were you when i had this problem!!!!! hehehhee....... :) Good story
tho.... and thanks for the advice!
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| Subject: | RE: what is the hard drive that connects to |
the xdp4k? c90?
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
That would be my guess too. As they say in Australia: suck it and see....
Matt
At 04:12 PM 1/11/2005 Tuesday, you wrote:
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Tony Antoniou" <larz@s054.aone.net.au>
>
>That's what I figured ... same protocol and all, just a model they probably
>overlooked.
>
>Adios,
>Tony
>
>--------------- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums ---------------
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roland M
>To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: RE: what is the hard drive that connects to the
>xdp4k? c90?
>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" <mdx400@hotmail.com>
>
>I don't see any reason the MDX-C8900 *couldn't* be used to control the
>device as it has the same UniLink control features as the C90 (CD/MD
>Changer/DSP/TV Controls)...
>
>Roland M.
>
>
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| Subject: | RE: what is the hard drive that connects to the xdp4k? |
c90?
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Tony Antoniou" <larz@s054.aone.net.au>
Nah, that's what Americans say. We say, "Let's give it a burl."
Adios,
Tony
--------------- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums ---------------
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: RE: what is the hard drive that connects to the
xdp4k? c90?
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
That would be my guess too. As they say in Australia: suck it and see....
Matt
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| Subject: | RE: what is the hard drive that connects to |
the xdp4k? c90?
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Are you sure about that? I don't think Americas know the "suck it and see"
phase. I did a little web surfing research tonight and I found this very
interesting reference:
http://www.angelescity.com/aussie_slang.html
Scroll down to the "S" section then look for "Suck" and there it is.
I'm pretty sure the first person I heard say this was "Bryan Brown" the
actor (
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/1587/BryanBrown_Amy_G_626782_400.jpg
). According to the Internet Movie Database, he's from Sydney, New South
Wales, Australia.
"Give it a Burl" is also in the aussie_slang website above. Can't say as
I've ever heard that one before. Course, I'm a Yank, ya know...
:-)
Matt
At 10:58 PM 1/11/2005 Tuesday, you wrote:
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Tony Antoniou" <larz@s054.aone.net.au>
>
>Nah, that's what Americans say. We say, "Let's give it a burl."
>
>Adios,
>Tony
>
>--------------- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums ---------------
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle
>To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: RE: what is the hard drive that connects to the
>xdp4k? c90?
>
>--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
>
>That would be my guess too. As they say in Australia: suck it and see....
>
>Matt
>
>
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| Subject: | Re: RE: what is the hard drive that connects to the xdp4k? |
c90?
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Randy Visentine <randyman@gmail.com>
Funny! :-p
Is there any way the iPod (or simular) could interface via USB from
the Sony Unilink Aux Input adaptor? (This booger:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-4HIK7pF6khk/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=50900&I=158XA300
)...
Even if it wouldn't, something like an iPod seems more cost-effective
than a Phatnoise Phat-Box IMO. The PhatBox is killer due to the C90
controllability and title/name scrolling, but is that feature worth
2-3 times as much as a portable MP3 player with a cradle and analog
connections to the 4000x?
I'm still debating replacing one of my two 10-disc changers with the
Sony MP3 10-disc changer (analog connections, - but no biggie IMO).
OR, adding the Unilink XM-Radio tuner (but I hear it is not all that
simple to use with the C90 preset buttons), OR some sort of portable
MP3 player or PhatBox. Even a lap-top PC would be killer for a MP3
jukebox, and realtime control of the XDP-4000x! Plus GPS in one unit
(W/ Dash mounted 7" Touch-Screen). Too many options, but this Sony
ES stuff is aging, and sizeable investments in "Sony Only" upgrades
seem questionable (EX. - Phatbox + Unilink) where as an iPod or Laptop
could be used with any system (even use a digital USB connection from
a LapTop into the AUX Input Adaptor as your main "Source Unit"!).
Even if you make the Lap-Top a "permanent" fixture, you could still
import audio files and data via portable FW Hard Drives, 802.11b
wireless, etc... I'm just sayin'... ;-)
Someone should create a Unilink-to-USB style interface for using the
XA-300 (or Toslink SPDIF) and the XDP-4000x with a LapTop - so a
Unilink head unit would not be needed. The XDP-4k should last for a
long time, but the C90 takes a lot of wear and tear, and has a limited
lifespan...
Over and out,
Randy V.
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