---------------------------------------------------------- XDP4000X-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 05/04/05:3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:09 AM - Re: CD Changer w/digital out to connect to xdp4k...was mp3 changer (John Anderson) 2. 07:20 AM - Re: Re: CD Changer w/digital out to connect to (Ethan) 3. 10:08 AM - Re: Re: CD Changer w/digital out to connect to xdp4k...was mp3 (Roland M) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:09:43 AM PST US From: "John Anderson" Subject: XDP4000X-List: RE: CD Changer w/digital out to connect to xdp4k...was mp3 changer --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "John Anderson" ok, so, if i don't go w/a MP3 changer, is it hard to find a Sony changer w/a digital output that can connect to my xdp4k? I know that Sony has stopped making these, and if so, which is the recommended piece, especially in terms of shock resistance and durability? Also, do any of the changers play recorded Cd-rs? my c90 has problems w/some recorded discs, and sometimes i get pops and crackles while playing these discs. Finally, if anyone has one of these changer for sale in good condition, please let me know, as I would definitely like to find a way to play more cd's in my car. thanks, John ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:20:33 AM PST US From: Ethan Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: RE: CD Changer w/digital out to connect to xdp4k...was mp3 changer --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Ethan > ok, > so, if i don't go w/a MP3 changer, is it hard to find a Sony changer w/a > digital output that can connect to my xdp4k? I know that Sony has stopped > making these, and if so, which is the recommended piece, especially in terms > of shock resistance and durability? Also, do any of the changers play > recorded Cd-rs? my c90 has problems w/some recorded discs, and sometimes i > get pops and crackles while playing these discs. > Finally, if anyone has one of these changer for sale in good condition, > please let me know, as I would definitely like to find a way to play more > cd's in my car. > thanks, > John I don't believe any MP3 capable changer has optical outputs. A few months back I posted some infos that show the 757 changer looks to have the needed circuitry inside to drive optical output, it's just not wired to the port and analog/digital switch. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:08:12 AM PST US From: "Roland M" Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: RE: CD Changer w/digital out to connect to xdp4k...was mp3 changer --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Roland M" >--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "John Anderson" > > >ok, > >so, if i don't go w/a MP3 changer, is it hard to find a Sony changer w/a >digital output that can connect to my xdp4k? I know that Sony has stopped >making these, and if so, which is the recommended piece, especially in >terms >of shock resistance and durability? Also, do any of the changers play >recorded Cd-rs? my c90 has problems w/some recorded discs, and sometimes i >get pops and crackles while playing these discs. > >thanks, >John Off hand I can think of the following that had the optical output... CDX- 91, 805, 828, 838 and 848X The 91 is pretty old-skool at this point. It was an excellent changer but keep in mind finding one it will almost always been used and because of the age of the design, it will be used for several years no doubt. I hear the error correction on it wasn't as good as the newer ones so you might want to take that into account. The CDX-805 and up are all pretty much the same internally, the differences vary mainly in cosmetics. The 828 has a different door/front panel; the 838 is the same as the 828 but it is red instead of sliver and the 848X is also red but has a larger plastic door with no window (looks kind of toy-like really). I believe they may have switched from manufacturing in Japan after the 828 as well, but I could be wrong. All of the above changers have a form of ESP (Electronic Shock Protection/memory buffer). However starting with the 828 Sony changed from ESP to Advanced ESP--a better strategy for filling/emptying the buffer which also had better power consumption characteristics (why that matters in a car I have no idea but that is what Sony had claimed). As for error correction, I can comment that my CDX-828 is almost amazing on that point. It reads through most scratches perfectly. It doesn't like fingerprints or smudges/smears on the disc, however. But as long as the disc is clean the 828 is pretty darn good at reading scratched/damaged discs. I have one CD where the last track, I cannot get it to play in ANY CD player I own (even computer CD and DVD -ROM drives where error correction is paramount) without skipping in this one certain spot. However in the 828 it plays perfectly. I actually wanted that track on a MiniDisc I was making once and couldn't get it to read properly anywhere so I had to make the recording off the digital output in the car! Anyway hope that info helps. You can find pretty much any of these changers on eBay, by the way. I think nowadays they sell in the $100 US range, used. If you're really lucky you can sometimes find a brand new one. Roland M.